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4 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

That's all fine and good.  But, if our line wasn't being able to open up holes last year, the north south run game isn't going to work without some outside "bubble" stuff working.  Since the bubble stuff wasn't working, the inside run wasn't either.  Since the inside run wasn't working, it's easier to get pressure on the QB to blow up those down field passes.

 

This year, if our line is bigger, stronger, better...and our snaps are better so the timing is better....much more of all these options open up and work better.

So what you're saying is that if our line gets better then our whole offense gets better, which means that our Qbs and Rbs get/look better as well? Well that just makes sense and we here on husker board would rather blame it all on the Qbs and how much better the back up always is no matter who the starter is!  Your level headedness and using of common sense is not welcome here!

15 minutes ago, nupowr said:

It's crappy on Warner if the staff is 9-3 but not if they are 5-7.  After 2 yr. you've got to prove that you deserve the right to be left alone.

I disagree, its crappy anytime. When you're 9-3 people are more likely to brush it off and say look at this idiot. But when you're 5-7 and trying to turn the program around, things like this can gain traction when they shouldn't and cause a divide. Now we all know it probably won't, but it's pretty classless to trash your kids coaches unless they are somehow putting your kid in harms way, or have actually wronged him in someway other than he isn't getting enough PT or they aren't throwing him the ball enough. Kurt Warner is a HOF QB and it comes across fairly immature to speak down about the staff publicly

22 minutes ago, PoloWearingBeaver said:

 

Speaking of the quarterbacks, Frost won't accept help from a HOF QB.

Am I the only one who reads that and things it's pretty crappy on Warner to publicly complain about the coaching staff of his sons team. I've been around parents who b*tch and moan about coaches and most of the time it's cancerous and those people are almost unbearable to be around. And it's almost always because their son (in this case a walk-on) isn't the star they think he is

1 minute ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

its good news for Husker football. MSU takes a drop as any coach worthy of CU is a bottom feeder imo.  MSU will miss their former staff and HC greatly.   Opens the door a tad for NU 

Most definitely opens the door for NU. Colorado has good high quality recruits yearly and MSU could easily fall back into a bottom feeder school that is a lot what Indiana and Illinois are most years

11 hours ago, 10_point_buck said:

Lots of potential rabbit holes here, many already brought up.  The total cost to go to college is easily $100K + for 4-5 years, especially taking into account out of state tuition.  For any athlete, leaving after 4-5 years with no debt and a degree is HUGE!  Absolutely huge!  If athletes want to go out and profit off their name and likeness, so be it.  Don’t require any school to do more than they already do.

I think the bolded (which is the title of the thread) is honestly the best solution. The NCAA can continue to consider the student athletes as amateurs, and the athletes can draw some kind of revenue off of their abilities.

1 minute ago, BackInTheDay said:

Correlation vs. causality?  Does Saban have a winning team  because he gets all of the starred recruits or do all of the starred recruits go to Saban because he is a winning coach and coaches his players to be winners?

 

If you follow the recruiting forums you would know the only reason any recruits go anywhere is bagmen!

19 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

With any program, JUCOs are going to be more of a crap shoot than your typical HS player.  They are in a JUCO for a reason.  Now, some will come out with a chip on their shoulder and prove they never should have been there.  But, some won't accomplish that for many reasons from, physical talent, grades, want to, work ethic....etc.

This is very true, however I feel like the quality of JUCO kids we got this year are better as a whole then the ones we had last year. JUCO kids are going to be a need for the next few years until the staff can completely right the ship. JUCO kids were instrumental to Bill Snyder turning KSU from bottom dweller to legit title contender. 

6 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It specifically **is** a dig at some of the upperclassmen.

 

He's publicly saying they're not giving full effort.

A couple years ago we had people on here complaining about Bo always blaming the players for lack of execution and never owning that the staff has some fault in the losses, then we get MR and those same people were complaining about how he is too nice and doesn't hold the players accountable. Now we have a coach, who is critical about both the players and the coaching staff (yes he has owned that they coaching staff hasn't always been on point) but has a lot more tact then Bo ever dreamed about having, yet there are still lots of people complaining about how he ruining team chemistry! 

I'm not saying it's all sunshine and rainbows but goodnight people, give Frost credit, he represents the program extremely well and is trying to rebuild the program the right way, not the way that will get the program in trouble with the NCAA (kinda like what happened to Ole Miss). Give the dude time, anyone with a brain has said we are still at least a couple years away from being able to compete for BIG championships. 

6 minutes ago, BIG ERN said:

Our issue is with scoring, not moving the ball. Frost has been shaky once he gets to the opponent's 30 yard line. 

Frost has definitely gotten super conservative inside the 30, but I wonder if the purdue game doesn't explain why. With our Qb's struggling, and the fact its harder to get guys in space once inside the redzone, and the fact that our Qb's are really struggling to throw guys open and instead forcing throws that equal turnovers, that equals at least 3 points left off of the board. 

It seemed like that after AMart threw the pick inside the redzone, Frost changed it up and we started to become more successful, and started to have AMart run downhill more and then AMart's confidence grew and he started to play better. Hopefully that's a sign of progress on both of their parts and we will see a better offense this week against a much stouter defense

1 hour ago, WyoHusker56 said:

 

Feels like we need to go Stille/Davis, Daniels, Green, Davis to stop the run this weekend. Obviously that's an entire scheme change, but with the way our linebackers fail to fill run lanes we need to figure something out.

I think you're right. We have to sell out to stop the run. I think our secondary is good enough that they can cover Wisconsins receivers, but they can't have any run responsibility this week, because if they have to worry about the run then the play action will crush us. But until we get a lot better at the LB and D-Line position Wisconsin won't have to worry about throwing the ball much against us

48 minutes ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

I guess the stretch run is when there are 3 games left.

 

 

Might have something to do with the kind of offense Wisconsin runs and the fact that our current DL is going to get the crap kicked out of them so they will need to implement some kind of rotation

Just now, The Dude said:

Vedral plays like he knows the offense despite having much less actual game experience. 

Theres no way he doesn't know the offense, probably considerably better than AM. AM showed up in the fall last year and won the starting job. Vedral has had actually been around the offense for 3 full years and had more than one off season in the system. Honestly part of AM's success last year might of been because Frost had to use the K.I.S.S. method. (Keep It Simple Stupid). AM seems like he is always trying to make the big play instead of just reacting to what he sees. 

I know a lot of people, my self included, have been frustrated with the results we have seen on the field. But lets look at a few different things.

1. I honestly believe the team last year, may have only 1 or 2 wins this year. Other than Ohio St and Minnesota (who I think is better than anyone wants to give credit), we have fought hard in every game and been in position to win every one. Last year, we would have lost to Northwestern, Illinois, and hell possibly USA as well.

2. We don't have a lot of studs on the field right now, especially on defense. When you watch the games, how many position groups, or even just players do you see and think, man they are towards the top of the conference. Is that Frost's fault? IDK I think maybe a little bit, but based on what was here when he got here, and how little time he had to put his first recruiting class together it's really not that big of a surprise that were struggling and a lot of the time out of position due to our lack of athletes

3. The type of kids Frost and his staff have been recruiting look to be promising. Look at the size of our O-Line recruits. We seem to be getting big, strong, kids, who are rated pretty highly. Our best athletes are the guys Frosts staff have recruited. The shelves were a lot more empty then we realized when Riley left and unfortunately this program is more of a rebuild then a program like this ever should have been. 

Go ahead, get frustrated at the ugly losses, the state of our program now, but don't lose site of the big picture. I know there are some people calling for the firing of  different staff members and wanting to see different people in Frost's ear telling him how he should run the program and what he should do. That would totally be cutting off our nose to spite our face. It would just continue to set the program back. Let Coach Frost do what he came here to do. There's a reason why he got the amount of time on his contract he did. It's been said nobody cares about the program as much as he does. I believe that to be true. 

08- vs KU

09-@ KU

10- @ Kstate

17- vs Rutgers

So far NU is 4-0 in games I've been fortunate enough to attend

This would definitely be a great for our coaching staff to use as a recruiting pitch. When they came in Lamar Jackson was playing poor at best, then after just a year and a half of coaching they were able to help him reach his potential and be a 1st round draft pick. This could really help us snag some nice DB's in the future

21 hours ago, Mavric said:

Pickering still out

does anybody know whats actually wrong with him?

I think with our young and fairly inexperienced line running more I-formation makes sense. Out of the I you usually use more down blocking and pulling of guards and tackles, which I think is easier for a lineman, then having to try to zone and reach the more athletic d-linemen of today. I think thats one of the reasons that Wisconsin runs the ball so well, they have big strong kids that can be aggressive, get on a block, drive their feet and open holes for the backs. It also allows for the backs to know where the hole is going to be, hit it hard and fast, and be able get yards after contact. 

Also I think with our backfield right now, and lack of receiver depth it is a great wrinkle in our offense. It will slow the game down some for A-Mart who is in need of it. Help him gain some confidence and give our defense a break. 

11 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

 

Even aside from the profit aspect... These players burn a ton of energy during weight-lifting, practice, conditioning, and games - Allowing them to ever go hungry was criminal

The way that the NCAA has treated athletes for years is criminal! I believe there will be a day in the relatively near future, where college athletes are fairly compensated and the NCAA either completely reformed or only deals with D2 and down schools, where the money is not nearly as good.

26 minutes ago, Redux said:

Maybe not show our entire playbook against Illinois right before our toughest home game of the year?

I'm not a big believer in this. I understand the thought process behind it, but if you take advantage of running your plays against lesser competition then your chances of executing against really good teams is a lot less. The more you show the more they have to prepare for. Also every coach puts in new things and makes adjustments every week that the other team hasn't seen until they play one another. The only plays I think you might hold back is any trick plays you have in your arsenal.

3 hours ago, Ulty said:

 

You're kind of new here, so let me help you out. On Huskerboard, it's HIPPO

I thought it was Hip Hip......

20 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I just think Martinez needs to get more accurate on his passes. He had some throws way off or in the dirt. We could make up those basically loss of plays against NIU- but when its 2 and 10 against Ohio State that is a problem. I am not bagging on the kid- I am of the opinion he needs to clean that up. 

 

He also needs to see the field better. Open receivers and he throws over their head out of bounds to JD.

I think a lot of it too is the difference in play calling. On that drive Frosts calls are very aggressive and put a lot of pressure on the defense. It also appears that the reads for Martinez are simpler and allows him to be confident in what he sees. I think Coach Frost should have his foot on the pedal more often like he did in this drive

I said it in another thread and I think for the most part it's true. I had originally said that Clemson and Alabama wasn't built in 2 years. It was pointed out that Alabama pretty much was built in 2 years. That made me realize that we really were more talent deficient than originally thought.  We are pretty young, and are in the wrong part of the country for recruiting to be as easy as it is at an SEC school or most ACC schools. We have shown a lot of improvement on defense, except for getting caught on a trick play, a busted coverage, and a lost fumble when we were driving the ball from being 2-0. These things will be cleaned up as we become more experienced. 

I agree that Frost's play calling has been troubling but I think that will improve as well. I do not envy him and the pressure he must be under coming back to Nebraska to be the "savior" of the program. The culture is changing, but it may take longer than most of us unfortunately thought. Guys, sit back, enjoy the ride, and try not to freak out too much over the loses. 

GBR!

At least we haven't had an alternate as bad as Michigan States this year! It's terrible

2016

2019

2013

Even though it's not an option on the poll, I really liked the 2009 throwback style alternate

i'm sold, those look freaking awesome!