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damn, that balcony looks a long ways up there. I want to see the view from there.

has been contacted by Arizona St

Wish we could have seen Marsh in the spring game.

Enought about how everyone thinks MU sucks and cant win

 

 

 

Back to the kid, Hannon. Should be a good one huh?

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Nice to see coach Anderson can make sense even if it dosen't get the press it does when he dosen't make sense. It was big to see Stony Brook and Kent St make the CWS. Good to see MSU get an at-large. It gives less weight to the "northern school has no chance" argument.

I love that this kid would come to camp and throw for the coaches. He wants to compete, while Hobbs looses some respect for standing on the sidelines.

I hope this doesn't bode ill for future Husker teams in baseball. I heard rumors this week that Husker teams in the Bid 12 wouldn't loose kids drafted in the 20th round and they would stay hoping to improve their draft status the next year. I don't want kids leaving early now that we are in the Big 10 because they feel they can't improve playing here (meaning the competition not the coaching). Erstad I'm sure is working hard to change that thinking if it exists and wants kids to commit for the long haul.

I wouldn't call this any more than normal draft attrition. It would be great to be able to keep these guys for their senoir year. The problem is that as a drafted senior you have no leverage when negotiating your signing bonus. Your only option is to sit out a year and get drafted again. As a junior you stand a better chance to get a bigger signing bonus. As a senior you may get drafted higher, but end up signing for less because you have no leverage.

I would call this a rumor what conference you play in should not matter at all.

Good news is we only lost 2 recruits to the draft, so we should be able to keep our scholarship numbers where they should be. The over-singing limitations of the B1G should have minimal effect.

Just an overall thought on the programing on the B1G Network. They do a great job with football and basketball. They seem to almost ignore baseball. There are 6 games every day of the 3 day weekend, and only 1 gets aired each day. They air just about as much live softball. I guess they feel the ratings aren't there, but they need to work at building this product to make it profitable which could be done.

As for Mathew's arguments for FSU, I'm coming around. It wont happen, but could be an opportunity lost.

A bit confused. If the B1G Network added teir 2 programing they would have a lot more programs. Why would they need to add more teams? Much more programing from teir 2 would be added.

I understand the arguing for seeking more markets, but don't see how adding of teir 2 programing strengthens this argument, in my opinion it weekens the argument.

Good read though.

Purdue isn't hosting the regional on campus, which sucks for them.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/sports/collegesports/sbt-20120530sbtmichb-05-05-20120530,0,7734969.story

It is pretty cool to watch every game on B1G Network.

It is sad, I saw a bit of the OSU game and would doubt there were 1500. Makes me think Werner Park would be a better option than TD. It would look better on TV in a smaller venue, may be even a campus location.

Conference expansion talk always leads back to Notre Dame. ND is just different than everybody else, why money. More importantly where there money comes from. The booster money flowing into ND is crazy. These boosters are in love with ND as an independant. An extra $10million in a TV deal is not worth joining a conference if ND looses $10million in booster money. No other school can say the same. Even if ND is exculded from winning a NC because of a stipulation saying you need to win your conference. I think these boosters would rather play their rivals, go undefeated, and not win a NC as opposed to joining a conference. Basically ND is going nowhere.

The only reason we hear all this ND to the Big12 nonsense is because Texas AD Dodds just gets giddy talking ND. The BigEast will always exist in some fashion even if they have no members playing football and ND will always have a place for their non-football sports with the BigEast. ND to the Big12 makes no sense, but everybody keeps writing about it every time Dodds open his mouth gushing about ND.

ND to the B1G makes sense, that is why people have been talking about it for 15 years. They could play USC, Stanford, and Navy along with a conference schedule including Michigan, Michigan St, Purdue, and 5 other B1G opponents each year having 8 home games every other year. In the Big12 they would be playing 9 conference games, none against ND traditional rivals. ND wants to be independant and thats what they will be.

What did I miss Joe?

Watching the tournament now on B1G Network. Do they really need larger venues for this event? There can't be 500 people attending either game today.

Now we worry about Oregon.

Worry about Oregon funneling money to a scouting service representing Mr. Jennings.

A point I have been pondering. CBS does not seem thrilled about throwing more money to the SEC after their latest additions of A&M and Mizzou. There is a thread on it in "Other Sports". ESPN was obiviously not impressed with the ACC's additions of Pitt and Syracuse.

 

Be cautious when traveling down this road. It is possible that a super-conference is not all that super.

 

ESPN and CBS are businesses--their goal is to make a profit, and they're obviously going to be adverse to having to increase payments on contracts. In other news, the sun rises in the East, water is wet, and men love T&A.

 

In all seriousness, remember that there's a reason Pitt and Syracuse were passed on by the B1G--the former doesn't even own its own state, and the later doesn't have any significant media markets under its belt. That probably helped justify ESPN's stance on the ACC, but considering the ACC has bigger and better media markets than the Big XII, it still smacks of incompetence on the part of the ACC brass.

 

Missouri and aTm, on the other hand, bring in .3 of KC/St. Louis and Houston, respectively. Those markets aren't anything to sneeze at and are net new for the SEC.

The ACC had the bigger, better media markets, but the Big XII has the better brands in OU and Texas.

Again Mizzou and T&M bring great markets, but how do they rate as brands? Mizzou, blah T&M, good but not great.

I am sure CBS is will come to a number closer to what the SEC wants. It will be interesting to see just where that number is.

A point I have been pondering. CBS does not seem thrilled about throwing more money to the SEC after their latest additions of A&M and Mizzou. There is a thread on it in "Other Sports". ESPN was obiviously not impressed with the ACC's additions of Pitt and Syracuse.

Be cautious when traveling down this road. It is possible that a super-conference is not all that super.

Yeah, I spose they grab UConn, Rutgers, and maybe even USF (and maybe not) and entrench themselves as the 5th best conference, 1st best in basketball. THen the Big east is a bizarre frankenstein. a group of great BB onl schools with a mish mash from all over then country of unrelated football schools. IF that came of the Big East, the BB only schools should just break off, as ND would split anyway...

The ACC could grab those schools you mention, but the Big East will not go away. I could see ND staying with the Big East BB schools for all sports outside of football no reason for them not to Georgetown, Marquette, St. Johns, Villanova are a great group of schools if you have your own football deal. The news on this new playoff should be coming soon, that will clear a lot of things up.

I know he won't commit here, but just getting him on campus is a major coup for this staff.

Yea, I hope he writes his name on the bathroom wall. Visits are nice, but commits count.

no turnovers.

Why even bother mentioning something if it's not possible? Maybe you weren't being literal, but the lowest amount of turnovers in a single year the past 5 years for a single team was 9.

 

We don't have to have 0 turnovers to go 10-2. Having a positive margin would be make that possible. (Last year we were -1)

Suprised to see we were -1 in turnovers last year. This board made me think that number was around -15 or maybe that was what NU did vs Wisc and Mich.

If forced to 16, the Big 10's top priorities should look like this -

 

1. Notre Dame (grabs large share of NY market and strengthens national market)

2. Virginia Tech (large share of DC market)

3.* (if VT is off the board) Maryland (DC market)

4. Ga. Tech (Atlanta market)

5.* Syracuse &/or Rutgers (more NY market)

 

Others to consider

- Boston College (great academics and Boston market)

- North Carolina (basketball + solid national following, great academics)

- Pitt (Despite already having the Pennsylvania market, they still have a solid athletics program)

- Virginia (DC market again)

who is going to force the B1G to 16 schools?

Sounds like Clemson is going to be the first domino per some dudes on twitter.

 

Here is a question. IF and when we get to 4 major conferences deciding a national title, who is the biggest name left out of the Big Ten,SEC,Big XII or Pac-12?

I see ND and VA Tech finding a place to land, so that leaves Miami, Boise, and Pitt as the biggest "brands" I see left out. Any of them could land somewhere it is a changing situation.

The departure of FSU, Clemson or both would not lead the ACC to collapse. Collapse as a legitimate football conference yes but they never were one to begin with. They'll always be around for basketball and even if those teams leave they'll just be down to twelve teams, hardly in danger at all.

 

I'd say even with the current rumors the ACC will outlast the Big Twelve which is only one or two Texas hissy fit/power grabs from destruction.

I don't think the ACC will collapse. I just think you will see more teams leaving the ACC, and the ACC will just pick-up more BigEast teams. Which conference will last longer I have not a clue.

If that is true about the Big 12 then it looks like they take the place of the ACC as one of the 4 that survives. It is looking like the 4 major conferences to survive will be the Big 12, SEC, Pac 12 and the B1G. where as before it was looking like the ACC would make it and the Big 12 would not. We will see. I not sure what I think about 16 team super conferences overall but I am all for more games matching 2 big time teams. I don't like the money games, so if we had bigger conferences along with alliances maybe we would have less of the directional schools and more big boy football.

If FSU leaves and BCS money is not flowing into the ACC it will be scramble mode for everyone to get out. I think FSU and Clemson are gone. That dosen't mean the 4 conferences will all start trying to get to 16, that makes no sense to me. Why would the B1G for example start snatching up the likes of Pitt and Syracuse when they don't add more money to the pot than the average B1G school?

I could see both the SEC and B1G having interest in a pairing of NC and VATech. Georgia Tech could be a Big12 target. Maryland, NC State, Virginia, BC, and/or Miami could have a fit somewhere I just can't see it now. ND is still the big chip that needs to fall, and if this playoff forces them into a conference my guess is B1G.

One thing that seems pretty obivious is we have 4 big boy conferences and 4 conference champs. There is your playoff, PAC vs B1G and SEC vs Big12. You even have 4 CCG's so now you have an 8 team playoff. Everybody else can go out in the fall and run a team out onto the field in front of a half full 50,000 seat stadium and wait until basketball season starts.

Not sure if it's a good thing, but that's how I see it.

Ugh. Not this s**t again...I kid, I kid.

 

For one, people assume that Clemson and FSU are going to be in a better fiscal position in the BigXII than the ACC--that isn't the case, as the ACC has a handshake agreement without a dollar amount with ESPN currently for all three tiers of the ACC--something ESPN doesn't have with the Big XII and will never want, as the second and third-tier programming is weak (read: Tech, Baylor, KSU, ISU).

 

ESPN already signed on the dotted line to bump their deal with the Big XII up to $20 million/school total--this total includes second-tier Fox Sports rights (not Fox OTA) and does not include third-tier rights. Other than Oklahoma and TexAss, any of the other schools will be hard-pressed to effectively capitalize on their third tier rights, so we're still looking at a haves vs. have-not scenario in the Big XII--it's just not as drastic as it was before.

 

 

This did not pan out like you thought. All 3 tiers of the ACC are worth $17MM, and that is after a lot of ramping up. Anyone leaving the ACC gets over $3MM more from this, plus maybe $4MM from tier 3, plus money from this new SEC bowl, plus likely share of national final four Money, plus additional funds from base contract if big draws are added and a championship game is put back, etc.... I think they are looking at $10MM or more, maybe $15MM, than if they stay in the ACC when you look at all the funds. Obviously a lot of this is speculation, but the Big 12's financial situation is good and getting incredibly better fast.

I always thought if the Big12 could hold it together until they renegotiated their ABC deal they would be OK, but they are in a better position than I thought. The ACC is on the verge of being picked apart.