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I think I speak for a lot of Husker fans when I say that we, the fans in the stands, would really like to know that Bo, the Bo these guys will run through legions of Satan's demons for. Maybe the perception would be different if he even remotely tried to embrace the fans like he embraces the kids.

 

We're a huge part of this equation. It's not just the players on the field and the coaches in their offices. "Us" includes the blokes in the bleachers. We are not "them," but many of us feel like Bo believes we are.

 

It's not that we can't understand. Bo won't let us understand him. He keeps us at arm's length.

 

It's a two-way street.

I agree with you that I wish the relationship was better. It would also be nice if the fans actually tried to see for themselves. But every time he sits there and starts to do that people take shots at him. Look at his pressers (minus this post game) and you'll see a lot more of him if you want. Hell one week he sat there for darn near an hour being very open and honest. How else is he supposed to let us know him? Fans can't be in the meetings every day and around him. When he does reach out and say good things about the fans people from the message boards and the OWH say he's full of crap and just saying stuff like that to sway the public or save his job. Hell there was a good portion who still think the Jack TD was set up for a PR for Bo. He also does things not because its a good PR move. People don't know he made calls or stopped by to see a sick and dying fan nearly each week last year (it could have been 2 years at this point) because that was a pick me up for that guy. He called our QB recruit after he was forced to stop playing ball this year and honored the scholarship even if he never plays. He's continued to communicate nearly every week to talk about how its important to be a good teammate even when you're hurt and can't play, etc. Those type of things should tell most everything anyone should need to know about the guy. Plus his team, his player, etc all come out daily and profess how great he is. But apparently that's not good enough for the fans mostly because the Omaha media (all forms) say its not. I would wage a large sum that if the OWH covered him favorably not of the rough and gruff would really matter to most fans. I live in Central Nebraska and work a lot in the east end of Nebraska when I'm in the state. The coverage until recently was night and day difference. If you would watch NTV, Scottsbluff, NP etc it was pretty much pro Bo and the exact same presser would be covered in Omaha and it was cut to make him always look angry, pissed or standoffish. The reporters nearly to a T game critical coverage about what was wrong or what he needed to to.

 

Since its such a huge issue for you...how would you suggest he reach out more to the fans?

I think Johnny will be a good player. However I think we need a few more bodies at that spot. This year should have taught us that. Florida learned that this year. They went from 10 wins to 4 when the QB went down. I think TA is an upgrade from RKIII but I don't think he's going to be the next Frost, TF or Crouch. I think he could be very solid Joe Daily type of player (who was underrated IMO). I think Johnny should be better than TA by accounts coming from people I trust. But the back up is always better than the starter of course. I would like us to look at a JC guy or a TX's QB that everyone else wants to convert to DB.

It might not be 100 million anymore. It really doesn't matter what he makes. Pay is based on going rate. Just ask Harvey. That's why we paid a guy 3 times what he was making to make him #1 in the B10 and #5 nationally to be our AD. And he won't do interviews or return email to boosters. No one seems to care about that. BTW he only makes 1.9 million less than the coach. You would think he'd be a little more media savvy and help the PR of you flagship and money maker.

I've been fickle about my support for Bo becuase it's a fickle product out there on the field.

 

I felt momentum had shifted around the MSU game. Young team but witht talent, grit and heart. Playing injured but new players stepping up the best they can.

 

Senior Day. Iowa. Good vibes and redemption in the air at Memorial Stadium.

 

Then they kinda sh*t the bed. Fundamentals. Focus. Strategy. Offense. Defense. Special Teams. And the coach on the sidelines raging. Then after the game blaming everyone else.

 

Bo had teed this team back up for me. I was excited. I was back in his corner. I knew they were young and injured, but it looked like they were starting to have fun again.

 

Then Bo sucked every last bit of fun from this team by being the thin-skinned prick that comes out when things aren't going well.

 

That and having his team as unfocused in their last game as they were against Wyoming. That's on the head coach. The Omaha World Herald has nothing to do with it.

 

I'm behind Bo for his 7th season. Seriously. But it better be pretty f*cking good.

I didn't see the presser live and watched the news. What I saw didn't look too good for Bo. Then I watched the feed and insane a lot of stuff out of contex where the cut off intro statements or follow up to make him look worse. Don't get me wrong, Bo needs to improve in this area which he did this year as much as any. I guess we knew Bo is black bad white about his responses when we hired him. I don't know why people are shocked now. Also I guess I don't really have issues with him lashing out the way he did. I think the majority of people would do the same under that pressure, say things emotionally that aren't politically correct and that you regret the way they sounded or they were even said after cooler heads prevail. If only he could be like our AD and not have to speak with media or fans after weeks of requests we'd be ok. I'm sorry but when you have a group of people working against you everyday at your job and then on top of it you have to go in front of them answer questions about what just happened knowing they are trying to twist your honest explanation into something it's not I think at some point you get frustrated and lose it. Is it right? In a vacuum, no? Is it justified? Maybe. Can I put myself in those shoes and seeing something similar taking place? Probably.

 

You're not paid over three million dollars a year to handle it. Bo's demeanor is bigger than Bo or the local media. It's the image of the program nation wide and it's tarnished every time Bo freaks out in public.

 

What the guy thinks/feels/says behind closed doors is his business. This stuff that keeps happening in full view of the public is not an encouraging sign at all, and there's no way to justify, rationalize, or spin it into a positive.

Great. The OWH pulls in about 100 million a year. I expect them to report actual news for that money rather than fabricate it.

These players seem to get it. Too bad many of us fans don't really understand. And the honest truth is we don't.

 

http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/football/2013/juco-dt-commit-doubles-the-fun-for-huskers/article_8c43f104-2cd3-5835-8ef7-a30f20721416.html

Anything the Omaha media is saying that it's until the bowl game is them just trying to save face for being wrong. There is a big backlash starting. Even the RSS boards have been mandated new policy they will follow.

 

What does this mean?

RSS moderators and admin was purposely trying to sabatoge recruiting by Bo and the staff for at least the past two years. Emails (internat staff) had been forwarded to UNL indicating their purpose to do this. It's been addressed now. They will no longer talk about coaching status until after recruiting signing date to prevent further issues and to keep them from lying to recruits about it. Pretty hard to have a pay site if it's forced to shut down or in the middle of a slander lawsuit.

 

I've never been to this site before. Did Bo and staff realize this was going on? Can you provide some examples of what they were actually doing to sabotage recruiting? I don't follow recruiting at all so I wasn't aware of any of this.

As I've mentioned before they were of it for awhile. UNL had the info sometimes you pick when to fight a battle.

Anything the Omaha media is saying that it's until the bowl game is them just trying to save face for being wrong. There is a big backlash starting. Even the RSS boards have been mandated new policy they will follow.

Is there going to be backlash for the media?

That's happening from fans right now. Read the comments after any OWH story, twitters feeds of the Omaha media, etc. Oddly the 1620 guys and OWH reporters were just stating they were busy blocking people who were now being critical of their comments and banning them from their web. So apparently when you get called out for lying and are being asked questions about motives and your a media member you don't have to respond.

I've been fickle about my support for Bo becuase it's a fickle product out there on the field.

 

I felt momentum had shifted around the MSU game. Young team but witht talent, grit and heart. Playing injured but new players stepping up the best they can.

 

Senior Day. Iowa. Good vibes and redemption in the air at Memorial Stadium.

 

Then they kinda sh*t the bed. Fundamentals. Focus. Strategy. Offense. Defense. Special Teams. And the coach on the sidelines raging. Then after the game blaming everyone else.

 

Bo had teed this team back up for me. I was excited. I was back in his corner. I knew they were young and injured, but it looked like they were starting to have fun again.

 

Then Bo sucked every last bit of fun from this team by being the thin-skinned prick that comes out when things aren't going well.

 

That and having his team as unfocused in their last game as they were against Wyoming. That's on the head coach. The Omaha World Herald has nothing to do with it.

 

I'm behind Bo for his 7th season. Seriously. But it better be pretty f*cking good.

I didn't see the presser live and watched the news. What I saw didn't look too good for Bo. Then I watched the feed and insane a lot of stuff out of contex where the cut off intro statements or follow up to make him look worse. Don't get me wrong, Bo needs to improve in this area which he did this year as much as any. I guess we knew Bo is black bad white about his responses when we hired him. I don't know why people are shocked now. Also I guess I don't really have issues with him lashing out the way he did. I think the majority of people would do the same under that pressure, say things emotionally that aren't politically correct and that you regret the way they sounded or they were even said after cooler heads prevail. If only he could be like our AD and not have to speak with media or fans after weeks of requests we'd be ok. I'm sorry but when you have a group of people working against you everyday at your job and then on top of it you have to go in front of them answer questions about what just happened knowing they are trying to twist your honest explanation into something it's not I think at some point you get frustrated and lose it. Is it right? In a vacuum, no? Is it justified? Maybe. Can I put myself in those shoes and seeing something similar taking place? Probably.

Other fan sites should also take note if they re contacting people about recruiting or pretending to bean extension of UNL or the football program. Apparently it's a ProBOno effort that intends to expand if needed.

Anything the Omaha media is saying that it's until the bowl game is them just trying to save face for being wrong. There is a big backlash starting. Even the RSS boards have been mandated new policy they will follow.

 

What does this mean?

RSS moderators and admin was purposely trying to sabatoge recruiting by Bo and the staff for at least the past two years. Emails (internat staff) had been forwarded to UNL indicating their purpose to do this. It's been addressed now. They will no longer talk about coaching status until after recruiting signing date to prevent further issues and to keep them from lying to recruits about it. Pretty hard to have a pay site if it's forced to shut down or in the middle of a slander lawsuit.

Anything the Omaha media is saying that it's until the bowl game is them just trying to save face for being wrong. There is a big backlash starting. Even the RSS boards have been mandated new policy they will follow.

http://www.omaha.com...iery-head-coach

 

I'm glad the guys with the big pocket books have more perspective than a lot of people. GBR!

One booster and one regent were quoted. Excellent. I'm glad they're happy with the blowouts, negative attention for our university and the 4 losses every year and never winning anything.

 

 

Or maybe they like the good things he has done like Team Jack, graduation rates, clean program, turning the program around after BC, 3 championship appearances, team played with tons of heart and fight during a rough year.

 

It probably has more to do with the undeserved extention that Tom gave him after the embarrassment in the CCG. The boosters may want to wait until the $$$$ comes down to a more reasonable number before he is sent packing.

I just spent all weekend in Lincoln. It has nothing to do with the money but people understanding the propaganda thats being feed to people. It is done with unless Harvey wants to also be done with his career at Nebraska. There is a reason Daub was quoted but it could have been Pillen or Claire as well along with Hawks. I'm sure Harvey being who he is will continue with crap next year at the first sign of weakness but I was told things are in the works so there will be no doubt Bo will be the coach after the bowl game as long as he still wants to be.

Yes, I understand it fairly well and understand they don't get to count research done on other campuses. But the fact is, show me what he has done for academics at Nebraska. Show me how much better the University has gotten. Just show me some facts that show he has helped the University grow and become better. If people want Bo fired for just being status quo, then Harvery should be right there with him.

 

I'm not going to pretend to be some Harvey Perlman advocate, but this is mypoic. The evidence is out there. You're not looking.

 

At all.

 

Don't be lazy. Go do some research before you criticize. Call the university for goodness' sake and ask about their future plans. Google it for goodness' sake. It's not like it's difficult to find.

let's see just so we can give Harv the same courtesy as Bo it really doesn't matter whats going on behind the scenes only what's seen in the media which is pretty much his games. He's not doing that well. His wins are hire TO and BIG10 entry (aided by football and TO heavily and if you don't believe that you're not listening to the B10). How's his enrollment growth going? So/so but I remember a presser where he was going to have a huge increase now that we are B10 only to have him state this year he was going to have to change that forecast because it was harder than thought to recruit students to campus. The numbers have increased a little so that's like a hail Mary against NW and doesn't really count as a win and should be considered a loss. Kicked out of AAU. It's not our fault Harvey couldn't convince them to combine all research dollars and fumbled several times there. A loss is a loss as we know the final score is all that matters on this one. Public support for one of the men hiding child rape. Loss. Extension of Pedy and Bills contracts without mitigation clauses. 2 losses. Telling the media and entire athletic department how the ad search would work only to hire someone without consult and pay them 3 times their salary with almost zero experience. Loss.

 

So right now he's 3-5 with his public games. Actually 2-6 because of the hail Mary.

 

Remember we don't get to count GPA stuff, Bowl appearances, championship appearances and the minor stuff in Bo's contract or the off field things like Team Jack so Harv shouldn't get to count increased research dollars and the Valley projects. Neither can we count future plans because that's unknown because as we've seen those can change and not happen. We must only look at the actual public wins and losses. And we won't really even touch on Harvs public perception and ding him for that just like Bo shouldn't be dinged for game emotions. And Harv should just be glad his private convos aren't taped to be leaked. His statements about professors and BOR members aren't very favorable for him either.

 

There's some serious cherry-picking going on here. The bold - how are you drawing any kind of correlations between these things?

I did that somewhat tongue in cheek but i can make just as good a case for not having Harv as having him. And with the booster calls and emails being sent the past two weeks to the BOR Harv probably isn't as safe at UNL as his ego would like to believe. The honest truth is we could end up down a head coach and chancellor by years end if this perfect storm brewing happens.

Yes, I understand it fairly well and understand they don't get to count research done on other campuses. But the fact is, show me what he has done for academics at Nebraska. Show me how much better the University has gotten. Just show me some facts that show he has helped the University grow and become better. If people want Bo fired for just being status quo, then Harvery should be right there with him.

 

I'm not going to pretend to be some Harvey Perlman advocate, but this is mypoic. The evidence is out there. You're not looking.

 

At all.

 

Don't be lazy. Go do some research before you criticize. Call the university for goodness' sake and ask about their future plans. Google it for goodness' sake. It's not like it's difficult to find.

let's see just so we can give Harv the same courtesy as Bo it really doesn't matter whats going on behind the scenes only what's seen in the media which is pretty much his games. He's not doing that well. His wins are hire TO and BIG10 entry (aided by football and TO heavily and if you don't believe that you're not listening to the B10). How's his enrollment growth going? So/so but I remember a presser where he was going to have a huge increase now that we are B10 only to have him state this year he was going to have to change that forecast because it was harder than thought to recruit students to campus. The numbers have increased a little so that's like a hail Mary against NW and doesn't really count as a win and should be considered a loss. Kicked out of AAU. It's not our fault Harvey couldn't convince them to combine all research dollars and fumbled several times there. A loss is a loss as we know the final score is all that matters on this one. Public support for one of the men hiding child rape. Loss. Extension of Pedy and Bills contracts without mitigation clauses. 2 losses. Telling the media and entire athletic department how the ad search would work only to hire someone without consult and pay them 3 times their salary with almost zero experience. Loss.

 

So right now he's 3-5 with his public games. Actually 2-6 because of the hail Mary.

 

Remember we don't get to count GPA stuff, Bowl appearances, championship appearances and the minor stuff in Bo's contract or the off field things like Team Jack so Harv shouldn't get to count increased research dollars and the Valley projects. Neither can we count future plans because that's unknown because as we've seen those can change and not happen. We must only look at the actual public wins and losses. And we won't really even touch on Harvs public perception and ding him for that just like Bo shouldn't be dinged for game emotions. And Harv should just be glad his private convos aren't taped to be leaked. His statements about professors and BOR members aren't very favorable for him either.

It is sad that many of the coaches are so thinned skinned. Man up a bit. Coaching for a few million dollars beats the crap out of digging coal or artificially inseminating thorough bred horse. I do not like the idea that parents are complaining as well, but as i sit behind the sideline- primarily the early part of the year- there did not seem to be much heart coming from our team. Husker fans are a rapid sort (each program deals with this), but for the coaches to continue us vs them mentality in the locker room etc... is just nuts. Builds a lot of ill will around the program. Continue to cater to the 98% sane bunch of fans and everything would be fine.

I don't think coaches or players are thin skinned. But if you hear continually that someone is bad, sucks, etc even if it isn't true or its a degree of truth the human mind starts to weaken. You start to question and believe the negative. Its worked in the media all the time to create false perceptions. Just look at our own govt and the perception of the team and coaches here. Your views will be different the further away from Omaha that you get. Its just now starting to trickle out to central Nebraska to the level it has been in Omaha for the past 2 years.

Spend some time with the players and their families and many will tell you they are counting down the days they are finished here because of the way fans come at them. If you need proof listen in the stands at the things being said at any game and read the twitter feeds of the players during the games. Our fan base has a large portion of ignorant a$$hole$.

 

I don't agree with this comment da skers, sorry! I sit with a bunch of family members of players and that is not at all how they feel? Not sure where this sentiment is coming from? Yes, we have bad fans that spew their sh*t now and then but a majority of the fans usually turn to the mouth piece with a look of disappointment and they get the hint. As for the twitter feeds, that is the (faceless fan) who has nothing better to do. This board is a good representation of Husker fans where most everyone wants the best for the program and airs our concerns with some tact. I believe if someone here on this board was to act like one of those (faceless twitter) posters and spewed the kind of comments that you are referring too, knapp and other would show them to the door just as what is done at the stadium?

 

If what you are saying is true for the section you sit in, I am sorry but I don't think it is a representation of much of the fan base but probably a very small %.

Its from the locker room. I won't give the names right now because a couple of them are JRs. But follow Bell, Mitchell, Carter, etc on twitter and you will see them questioning adults taking shots. Many of the Texas players past and present feel that way. There was even a time when Rex thought it was getting pretty bad here. Yes some of it has to to when things aren't going well health or playing time wise but then the fans pile on. And its not the objective critics that bother the players. Guys saying Cotton needs to become a better pass blocker, VV has to get in better shape etc. that gets to them. Its the personal attacks. It really started to pick up in the Billy C day and has continued. Niles Paul would probably have told you at one point that he wished the fans would all die. Its a point of frustration and sad they get to that point. Yes there are certain players it doesn't bother or that are in the shadows and they don't get a lot of the hate. There are also some kids that care more about the program and the team than the fans do so they do a damn good sales job about how great it is here.

 

yes and no other teams/staffs have to deal with this sh#t either, right?

Didn't say no one else has those issues. But if we're like the Bo hates it doesn't matter what other teams fans are like only ours.

Spend some time with the players and their families and many will tell you they are counting down the days they are finished here because of the way fans come at them. If you need proof listen in the stands at the things being said at any game and read the twitter feeds of the players during the games. Our fan base has a large portion of ignorant a$$hole$.

 

I don't agree with this comment da skers, sorry! I sit with a bunch of family members of players and that is not at all how they feel? Not sure where this sentiment is coming from? Yes, we have bad fans that spew their sh*t now and then but a majority of the fans usually turn to the mouth piece with a look of disappointment and they get the hint. As for the twitter feeds, that is the (faceless fan) who has nothing better to do. This board is a good representation of Husker fans where most everyone wants the best for the program and airs our concerns with some tact. I believe if someone here on this board was to act like one of those (faceless twitter) posters and spewed the kind of comments that you are referring too, knapp and other would show them to the door just as what is done at the stadium?

 

If what you are saying is true for the section you sit in, I am sorry but I don't think it is a representation of much of the fan base but probably a very small %.

Its from the locker room. I won't give the names right now because a couple of them are JRs. But follow Bell, Mitchell, Carter, etc on twitter and you will see them questioning adults taking shots. Many of the Texas players past and present feel that way. There was even a time when Rex thought it was getting pretty bad here. Yes some of it has to to when things aren't going well health or playing time wise but then the fans pile on. And its not the objective critics that bother the players. Guys saying Cotton needs to become a better pass blocker, VV has to get in better shape etc. that gets to them. Its the personal attacks. It really started to pick up in the Billy C day and has continued. Niles Paul would probably have told you at one point that he wished the fans would all die. Its a point of frustration and sad they get to that point. Yes there are certain players it doesn't bother or that are in the shadows and they don't get a lot of the hate. There are also some kids that care more about the program and the team than the fans do so they do a damn good sales job about how great it is here.

Beck's comment......not so bright...it just throws fuel on the fire...no comment would have been better.

 

You see I don't have a problem with him being honest in his comment. I don't know how many times I have read on message boards that "All they here is coach speak and blah, blah, blah." When a coach actually says something that is pretty true, some fans don't like it.

 

You can't have everything both ways.

 

The relationship that fans have had with Taylor Martinez had been very love/hate. He was just being honest and you don't like it.

The only other QB I think thats had it worse the TM would be Lord. And I'm not even sure he had it as bad a times.

Stupid to make a comment like that, we might not be the best fans in terms of how easy we are on the players and coaches from time to time, but we also show up to every single game, sell the place out and make the athletic department as profitable as it is. Can't wait until Beck is gone.........

We sell out. But if you've gone to home games this year you know we don't always show up. I would guess the student section will be 1/2 empty Friday. I'll take a picture. I haven't sat in my own seats yet this year but have been to two games and its never felt full. The one I took my girls to (ILL) I had three empties beside me and two right in front. We had lots of extra space.

Every fanbase deals with this now. Most are good, but the social media especially magnifies the really bad.

I agree 100%. But not every fan base claims to be "the greatest" either.

Odd that after the BOR started receiving letters that HP speaks out a little and he and the AD finally send a response to a few emails to the general public that had been sent days and weeks ago. Maybe they are feeling a touch of heat. It should also say volumes about HPs ego and who is calling the shots that the first comments come from him and not the AD who was given a huge raise to do this job after 6 months of prior experience. If you don't think HP has a complex take an admissions tour at UNL where a large portion is about how awesome our chancellor is. Even the guides appoligise about the video presentations.

Spend some time with the players and their families and many will tell you they are counting down the days they are finished here because of the way fans come at them. If you need proof listen in the stands at the things being said at any game and read the twitter feeds of the players during the games. Our fan base has a large portion of ignorant a$$hole$.

That's hard to say, but we started out this season getting worked by the likes of Wyoming and Minnesota. We haven't had the opportunity to be tested by any of those teams in the latter half of the year. Hopefully we get a good bowl opponent. I'm really bummed we can't face Ohio State in the CCG. That would be a great, great measuring stick.

We should end up with Mizzou or Texas. That should do just fine. (Assuming we beat Iowa.)

I'm confused. Did Severe just tweet this, even though the picture clearly states 2012?

Some jackball was trying to state that Sipple's 7.8 million number was wrong (if bo was fired) because the last public contract had it end in 2016. MS showed a copy he obtained to clarify that number for him.

Two guys from Iowa were walking along when they saw a dog licking his balls, one said i wish i could do that!! the other said, you dumbass he would bite you!