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[Lorewarn]

Ill get banned for this BUT ill say it. I know hes only starting his 2nd game in his 2nd season. But DR is a bit overrated as of now.

We wont score 40+ dinkin and dunking and no home run pass's. No wr's is not an excuse anymore. We have those.

DR needs to be DR not Patrick.

I think Dylan is quite properly rated (not over or under) based off of what he's accomplished so far.

I also think that's a completely separate conversation with no bearing on the dinking and dunking of game 1, which was by design. Dylan was coached to take what was there, and he did, quite successfully.

 

[BaytownHusker]

I think Dylan is quite properly rated (not over or under) based off of what he's accomplished so far.

I also think that's a completely separate conversation with no bearing on the dinking and dunking of game 1, which was by design. Dylan was coached to take what was there, and he did, quite successfully.

Sorry Pops you may be correct. But I will stanf by what i said. We wont score 40+ dinkin and dunkin. So is Dana planning that game plan cause he dont want to score 40+ or whats the reasoning?

 

[SouthLincoln Husker]

I enjoy the over reacting from 1 game. I see they, when it should be me.

 

[Lorewarn]

Sorry Pops you may be correct. But I will stanf by what i said. We wont score 40+ dinkin and dunkin. So is Dana planning that game plan cause he dont want to score 40+ or whats the reasoning?

Cincy spent almost the entire game with three high safeties. Pretty much every time they didn't, Dylan saw it and took some kind of a shot.

He saw no safety help in the 2nd and had a 25 yard throw to Hunter (who should've and could've kept his feet to either score or turn that into a 40+ yard play.

He saw the LB #11 freeze on RPO on the goal line 4th and 2 and immediately fired to Dane for an easy touchdown behind the defense (with a sneakily difficult throw). Saw no safety help and got Hunter a corner fade touchdown as well. Cincinnati decided they were going to live with us marching down the field with the short game, and if Pritchett doesn't false start at the 1, or we pick up the fourth down on the first drive of the third quarter, this game feels very different.

It's 'wait and see' to find out if/how we're going to force defenses to be honest, come up in the box, and give us more advantageous looks in the pass game, but as one data point for this season, schematically Dylan followed the correct gameplan very well, in an environment with all the mental reasons in the world to entice him to try and be a hero.

 

[BaytownHusker]

Cincy spent almost the entire game with three high safeties. Pretty much every time they didn't, Dylan saw it and took some kind of a shot.

He saw no safety help in the 2nd and had a 25 yard throw to Hunter (who should've and could've kept his feet to either score or turn that into a 40+ yard play.

He saw the LB #11 freeze on RPO on the goal line 4th and 2 and immediately fired to Dane for an easy touchdown behind the defense (with a sneakily difficult throw). Saw no safety help and got Hunter a corner fade touchdown as well. Cincinnati decided they were going to live with us marching down the field with the short game, and if Pritchett doesn't false start at the 1, or we pick up the fourth down on the first drive of the third quarter, this game feels very different.

It's 'wait and see' to find out if/how we're going to force defenses to be honest, come up in the box, and give us more advantageous looks in the pass game, but as one data point for this season, schematically Dylan followed the correct gameplan very well, in an environment with all the mental reasons in the world to entice him to try and be a hero.

I can live with that assessment honestly.

 

[Gorillahawk]

Sorry Pops you may be correct. But I will stanf by what i said. We wont score 40+ dinkin and dunkin. So is Dana planning that game plan cause he dont want to score 40+ or whats the reasoning?

Cincy playe 3 high safeties and corners way off the receivers to stop the big play and force NU to dink and dunk down the field. What DR did well was take what the defensive gave and NU dominated the TOP because of it. The alternative is take high turnover low completion probablity deep pass, causing the offense to go 3 and out consistently and the defense to be on the field more.

If NU would have done that, this board would have been full over posters complaining about an ugly loss instead of an ugly WIN. Could NU have maybe tried more deep shots? Yes, were there times we had receivers deep but they werent open because of Cincys deep DB style defense? Again Yes. If DR would have taken those shots that werent there, we are most likely sitting here talking about a 3 INT game, instead of talking about how he got lucky on 1 bad pass that could have been picked off.

I'll gladly celebrate an ugly win and acknowledge NU has a lot to improve on, instead of talking about an ugly loss and acknowledging NU has a lot to improve on.

 

[Mavric]

Cincy spent almost the entire game with three high safeties. Pretty much every time they didn't, Dylan saw it and took some kind of a shot.

Agree that everything seems to say they sat deep and kept everything in front of them. Not sure how many "shots" we actually took, as we only threw one pass more than 20 yards downfield.

He saw no safety help in the 2nd and had a 25 yard throw to Hunter (who should've and could've kept his feet to either score or turn that into a 40+ yard play.

I also would have liked to see a better effort to keep his feet here.

He saw the LB #11 freeze on RPO on the goal line 4th and 2 and immediately fired to Dane for an easy touchdown behind the defense (with a sneakily difficult throw). Saw no safety help and got Hunter a corner fade touchdown as well. Cincinnati decided they were going to live with us marching down the field with the short game, and if Pritchett doesn't false start at the 1, or we pick up the fourth down on the first drive of the third quarter, this game feels very different.

He actually missed this the RPO throw first time. OCDH told him about it through the helmet speaker and they ran it again. So score one for helmet communication.

It's 'wait and see' to find out if/how we're going to force defenses to be honest, come up in the box, and give us more advantageous looks in the pass game, but as one data point for this season, schematically Dylan followed the correct gameplan very well, in an environment with all the mental reasons in the world to entice him to try and be a hero.

I agree that there isn't much to knock Raiola on for this game. He took what the defense gave him and was pretty efficient at it. The biggest problem is we couldn't run the ball well enough to force them out of their three-high look.

 

[Mavric]

Lots of Cowboys (or just one Cowboy, as it were) running free....

 

[Mavric]

 

[krc1995]

I heard that on a podcast today. Hope the 2nd, 3rd & 4th strings can get a ton of playing time in the upcoming two games before Mich.

How will the starters get better from the bench? Games like these are nice when you’re trying to get to six wins, but they really don’t make a team better.

 

[Toe]

Ill get banned for this BUT ill say it. I know hes only starting his 2nd game in his 2nd season. But DR is a bit overrated as of now.

We wont score 40+ dinkin and dunking and no home run pass's. No wr's is not an excuse anymore. We have those.

DR needs to be DR not Patrick.

No, you're right. So far he's behind the career yards per attempt of almost every starting QB we've had since Zac Taylor. T-Mart? 7.5 ypa. Armstrong? 7.6 ypa. Raiola? Just 6.8 ypa.

Nobody really fears him as a runner, and so far as a passer, he really hasn't been anything special at all.

He's got Jeff Sims's 6.0 ypa beat, though!

Edit: doing some checking, looks like other than Raiola, Heinrich Haarburg, Jeff Sims, Ron Kellogg, Cody Green, and Joe Dailey are the only guys in the last 30 years who started more than a couple games for us who had a sub-7.0 career (to date) ypa. Note that three of those six are Rhule QBs...

 

[MyBloodIsRed16]

No, you're right. So far he's behind the career yards per attempt of almost every starting QB we've had since Zac Taylor. T-Mart? 7.5 ypa. Armstrong? 7.6 ypa. Raiola? Just 6.8 ypa.

Nobody really fears him as a runner, and so far as a passer, he really hasn't been anything special at all.

He's got Jeff Sims's 6.0 ypa beat, though!

Edit: doing some checking, looks like other than Raiola, Heinrich Haarburg, Jeff Sims, Ron Kellogg, Cody Green, and Joe Dailey are the only guys in the last 30 years who started more than a couple games for us who had a sub-7.0 career (to date) ypa. Note that three of those six are Rhule QBs...

Yeah but none of those guys completed over 70% of their passes (maybe)

 

[BigRedBuster]

How will the starters get better from the bench? Games like these are nice when you’re trying to get to six wins, but they really don’t make a team better.

Disagree.

1) Any real game playing time helps with real life game situations. You can rep all you want In practice, but you’re not doing in front of millions of people against a team you don’t know with real game situations. Going against a lesser team can help them work on technique and timing.

2) Any real game time the backups get is making them better too.

3) IF…..the starters are on the bench in the second half, it’s saving their bodies for conference play.

 

[XtraXtra]

How will the starters get better from the bench? Games like these are nice when you’re trying to get to six wins, but they really don’t make a team better.

That's an excellent point. The starters DO need all the reps and game experience they can get. This ain't the pros, their limited in their allowed practice time in full pass, etc

But I think 3 Qtrs of a game should be plenty, and turn the game mostly over to the 2's and 3's if the score allows for it. I think it does wonders for the morale of a locker room when more players get to see the field.

But that's just my opinion. Rhule has a much better coaching record than I can show from my years in Y-ball.

 

[BigRedBuster]