Bo Pelini Dream Team

[Saunders]

I'll clarify. It's acknowledged by anyone with common sense that at times, our offense can be its own worst enemy. A good portion of that has to do with Taylor. But you'd be hard pressed to find a QB who can run this offense and make it as big of a threat as it is now.

Wow. This was a whopper. I'm betting we could easily find someone to run our offense lol. Guys on our team now even. Since no quarterback knows what it's like to get any playing time besides Martinez it's not like we would find out anyway.

Wow, some people really are determined to hate. Why do you think Martinez got the nod in 2010 over Lee and Green? Because Watson was transitioning to a zone read offense and because Martinez could run the zone read like a champ. All the national media raves about his ability to sell a great fake and make a great read but even our own fans choose to ignore it. If anyone else could run our offense so well how come when Martinez got hurt in 2010 Lee or Green didn't step in and things kept clicking?

Because they weren't as good?

Nah..... just Bo playing favorites.

 

[papersun87]

:lol:

 

[Saunders]

:lol:

 

[The King]

Schools Taylor would probably not start at:
Bama

Georgia

Clemson

Ohio State

Oregon

Texas A&M

Stanford

Louisville

I'm probably missing a couple, but I think at pretty much every other school, he would be the starter. Some notable ones:

South Carolina - Shaw has been a gritty, tough QB for them, but his skill set is limited. Taylor would take that team to another level.

LSU - They haven't had a quality QB since Flynn.

Florida - Taylor probably makes them a serious title contender, as well as the previous 2.

All of the Big 12 schools - this includes Oklahoma (Bell is not a proven passer) and Texas (who hasn't found a good answer at QB since McCoy left)

I honestly think he could beat out Boyd, Bridgewater, or Mariota potentially, but in the end, I think those guys are perfect fits for their respective teams.

better than Bridgewater and Mariota?? Wow...

Reading comprehension?

heh

It is implied that a quarterback would be "better" if they beat out another quarterback, is it not?

Or do worse quarterbacks usually beat out better quarterbacks?

heh.

 

[The King]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

 

[Landlord]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

You're only correct in your analysis because you get to define what a "big game" is for yourself.

Personally I think there is evidence against your point - Oklahoma State, Missouri, Ohio State 2011, Wisconsin (no. 1), and Penn State as examples.

 

[The King]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

You're only correct in your analysis because you get to define what a "big game" is for yourself.

Personally I think there is evidence against your point - Oklahoma State, Missouri, Ohio State 2011, Wisconsin (no. 1), and Penn State as examples.

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

Those are "of significance"

Or do you think those wins actually mean anything at the end of the season? I hope not.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

Every game is a big game. Taylor has made some incredible plays and decision down the stretches in numerous instances.

 

[Saunders]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

You're only correct in your analysis because you get to define what a "big game" is for yourself.

Personally I think there is evidence against your point - Oklahoma State, Missouri, Ohio State 2011, Wisconsin (no. 1), and Penn State as examples.

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

Those are "of significance"

Or do you think those wins actually mean anything at the end of the season? I hope not.

So, he's played in 2 of those, 1 of which he was injured, and we almost won, and the other in which the defense gave up 10.1 yards per rushing attempt.
But it's his fault......

 

[The King]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

Every game is a big game. Taylor has made some incredible plays and decision down the stretches in numerous instances.

I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree. I would say that a Big 10 championship game or Big 12 championship game is not the same as playing Idaho St or Western Kentucky. I would be OK losing to Western Kentucky if we (somehow) still won a Big 10 championship.

I can't think of why else the "goal" for the year is typically to win a big 10 championship. If it is of the same importance as the rest of the games. It isn't. It's a big game. Chattanooga is not.

 

[The King]

I have now reminded you three times that I never said it was entirely his fault.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Firstly, no one is arguing it's all Taylor's fault. So please, stop attacking that straw man, there's nothing left of the poor guy.

When people say "we'll never win anything with Taylor at QB" (Not just here) they are in fact, doing just that.

I've said it the last 3 years and thus far I have been correct in my analysis. Taylor is NOT a big game QB. He doesn't make good decisions, at all. Pressure gets to him. He forces throws, tries to take the game over, and is prone to turnovers because of this - which leads to the game getting out of control. And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

Every game is a big game. Taylor has made some incredible plays and decision down the stretches in numerous instances.

I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree. I would say that a Big 10 championship game or Big 12 championship game is not the same as playing Idaho St or Western Kentucky. I would be OK losing to Western Kentucky if we (somehow) still won a Big 10 championship. I can't think of why else the "goal" for the year is typically to win a big 10 championship. If it is of the same importance as the rest of the games. It isn't. It's a big game. Chattanooga is not.

Yes agree to disagree is right. There's 12 games and if you lose 1 or 2, you're "out of the running" so to speak. So, when Taylor has the state of mind to do what he did against Northwestern, Michigan St, and Penn St. it makes it really difficult to see where he's incapable of big game and/or big moment decisions. That's where the disagreement comes in. The situations we were in in those games were a case of if we lost just even 1 of those, there was probably no hope left for the year. Now, obviously after what transpired in Indianapolis really dampens that mindset, but at the time of those comebacks it was everything, and pretty damn important.

 

[The Dude]

Taylor Martinez is literally Hitler.

 

[Mavric]

I have now reminded you three times that I never said it was entirely his fault.

But that's what you imply when you say we'll never win anything of significance with him at QB. If you thought it was more the defenses fault you'd say "we'll never win anything of significance until our defense improves.

 

[GSG]

Taylor Martinez is literally Hitler.

Really? I see him more as a Hitler/Stalin/Pol Pot/Martha Stewart hybrid