Coaches, players or both?

InOmaha said:
I don't get the love for Bo. Imagine this year, but we beat Michigan instead of losing by 3. Then unranked Penn State scores the record number of points against a Nebraska team and/or one of their players sets an NCAA yardage record.

Then we win a bowl game and end up 9-4. That was Pelini. The defensive genious that got absolutely hammered in multiple games in his career here.

Rhule's teams give up more than 70 points and more than 539 yards rushing or lets some guy break an NCAA single game record with more than 408 yards rushing giving up 59 and we all call for his head.

Bo was a defensive coach. Yet got crushed on D multiple times. He sure passed off the offense because many times he left the sidelines during games to focus with the Defense.

Pelini was given every opprtunity here to be a head coach. He's not a current head coach anywhere for a reason.
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Amen. Before the Iowa game, I was thinking that this season can easily shape up to be a typical Bo year where we win 9 games and every time we have a game where we can actually prove something, we would get beat by multiple scores. Now, obviously we aren’t going to win 9 games this year. But…..
 
In the Deed the Glory said:
Sometimes all you need is an old adage: “It isn’t about the Xs and Os, it’s about the Jimmies and Joes”

Players are the most important piece.
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Yes, but we have the Jimmies and the Joes to beat Iowa and Minnesota, and yet. So until we get the most out of our talent, I am blaming the coaches. And beyond that, Rhule is whiffing on the Jeff's and the Elijah's.
 
Add to original post: Coaches, Players OR ADMINISTRATION.

Admin has seemingly lost to vision / connection that made Nebraska, Nebraska. Since Frank, perhaps only Bo was known for hard nose football (even with his 2-3 blowouts a year). BC, MR, SF, MR2 - not so much. Yes, we all lost sight of the ball when SF was hired, but we should have known that the SF Offense was not made for the Big 10.
 
TGHusker said:
Add to original post: Coaches, Players OR ADMINISTRATION.

Admin has seemingly lost to vision / connection that made Nebraska, Nebraska. Since Frank, perhaps only Bo was known for hard nose football (even with his 2-3 blowouts a year). BC, MR, SF, MR2 - not so much. Yes, we all lost sight of the ball when SF was hired, but we should have known that the SF Offense was not made for the Big 10.
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The Scott Frost offense was similar to the Oregon offense he cut his teeth on, and Oregon is doing just fine in the Big 10. The best Big 10 teams play plenty of finesse and pro style offense, and those same hard nose defenses have had to get more sophisticated as well. I don't buy that the conferences play a significantly different brand of football. That old school Big 10 we remember had to do some evolving to keep up.
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
The Scott Frost offense was similar to the Oregon offense he cut his teeth on, and Oregon is doing just fine in the Big 10. The best Big 10 teams play plenty of finesse and pro style offense, and those same hard nose defenses have had to get more sophisticated as well. I don't buy that the conferences play a significantly different brand of football. That old school Big 10 we remember had to do some evolving to keep up.
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You are probably right on the Offensive side - perhaps more on the D side for SF.
 
It appears to me that it is something deeper. For what seems an eternity, there has been a considerable amount of moaning and groaning about player development. This has spanned the last several coaches. If BC could do one thing, it was coaching the OL. However, we never had an imposing OL when he coached here. I don't really know what the exact problem is, but we just seem to have the same problems over and over regardless of who the coach is or who the players are.
 
The thing about talent is that you have to be good at 22 positions and will likely rely on a solid second string, too. You can have 17 damn good starters but if you have two weak links on the offensive line, two on the defensive line, and one easily torched cornerback, other teams will exploit it. A shaky kicker can lose you a couple game all by himself. Some colleges have the luxury of over-recruiting. Nebraska doesn't. Our player development has to be twice as good. We probably need to be a little lucky, too.
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
The thing about talent is that you have to be good at 22 positions and will likely rely on a solid second string, too. You can have 17 damn good starters but if you have two weak links on the offensive line, two on the defensive line, and one easily torched cornerback, other teams will exploit it. A shaky kicker can lose you a couple game all by himself. Some colleges have the luxury of over-recruiting. Nebraska doesn't. Our player development has to be twice as good. We probably need to be a little lucky, too.
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This is the key. I use our current RB situation as the perfect example. 12 games in and still on RB2...12 games. To be successful you have to have top tier guys across the board for your starters and this includes situational downs with an extra DB, TE, 3rd down back etc...Until we can get to at a minimum a legit 2 deep were are going to continue to struggle. The drop off in several positions is too steep. Best bet, made more difficult by NIL and the portal, is to get a 1a and 1b with little to no drop off between the 1's and 2's. Again with the portal, if I am 1b, I'm out and becoming 1b somewhere else.

Unsure if NU can buy talent or not. For me, the jury is out. Some guys have done well and others not as much. Our best bet is coaches who can develop and use NIL to keep those guys and to plug holes ie Pritchett as an example....

Coaches have to get the right kids that fit the scheme/identity of the program. The develop the hell out of them. It's what I found odd with our QB recruiting. Dylan-Pro style, TJ-Dual, Dayton-Pro style, Trae-Dual. If we are running a "specific" offensive scheme can both styles be as effective or does it lend itself to one over the other? Just seems odd to me. What scheme are we recruiting them for.
 
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