Cyclown Fanatic.....fools

[knapplc]

I feel like you're hearing me but not listening to me.

I've been accused of worse.

There's an argument to be made that Iowa State will be in a better position to beat Nebraska than they were last year, which gives us HOPE that it could happen again. That doesn't mean we EXPECT it to happen. Okay, well maybe some people do expect it, but I guess I can't really defend them.
On a side note, the gap between our first and second stringers was way larger than the gap between Nebraska's first and second stringers (hence the questions for you guys at QB, or the fact that Burkhead sees a good chunk of game time). Losing Arnaud and Robinson meant more than losing Lee and Helu.

But really, that's besides the point. Iowa State might have a better offense thanks to your QB situation, but Nebraska has one of the best defenses in the nation while ours can be, well, anemic. In the great Blackshirt tradition, the defensive side of the ball is the reason Nebraska is and should be favored. I HOPE that our more talented defense will be experienced enough by the time we play you to make it a fight, but I'm not EXPECTING Iowa State to win it.

I can probably agree with this. :thumbs

 

[clone]

That's the key thing the Clones are forgetting - some of those turnovers weren't just turnovers, they were "You can watch 1,000 games and not see that again" turnovers.

Call it lightning, call it a miracle, call it whatever - the chances of those things happening twice are as remote as the chances of finding a spine in Dan Beebe.

Revel in your scoreboard, Clone Fan. You've got another four months until Armageddon. :throwdabones1:

:rollin what you folks are forgetting, overlooking, not seeing...

It's a college football game. there's more ways to win a game than eight turnovers.

one or two might be enough. maybe none.

that's why the games are played.

doesn't take lightning or a spine in the spineless beebe to beat NU in ames.

miracles come in all kinds of forms. maybe it just takes a little Paul Rhodes magic or a LITTLE luck, just a smidgin.

 

[husker B-rent]

Having our two best offensive playmakers, where we didn't last year, isn't a compelling argument? I mean, that's not guaranteed by any means, but it has to mean something. Combine that with the fact that you guys are returning your entire offense from last year and losing Suh who, since he was often double-teamed, HAD to help inflate some of the other defensive players' stats, and I think there's something that at least loosely resembles a compelling argument.
I know you're going to tell me that your offense and defense will improve, and I believe it, but there's still a justifiable doubt that it won't necessarily play out that way.

Again, 9-3 is more of a best case scenario, and anybody expecting that is likely up for a long season. And that 9-3 is counting Oklahoma, Texas, and Iowa as losses. Would we love to upset them? Absolutely. But there's a difference between hoping for something and expecting something.

Having your QB and RB back is going to be a wash with NE, since our #1 RB, Helu, had a bum shoulder for half the season, and our QB, Lee, had a bum elbow. So yeah, your returning guys count for something, and our healthy guys count for something.

In the end, you'll need another 8 turnovers to get a W, and you're not going to get that again.

I feel like you're hearing me but not listening to me.

There's an argument to be made that Iowa State will be in a better position to beat Nebraska than they were last year, which gives us HOPE that it could happen again. That doesn't mean we EXPECT it to happen. Okay, well maybe some people do expect it, but I guess I can't really defend them.

On a side note, the gap between our first and second stringers was way larger than the gap between Nebraska's first and second stringers (hence the questions for you guys at QB, or the fact that Burkhead sees a good chunk of game time). Losing Arnaud and Robinson meant more than losing Lee and Helu.

But really, that's besides the point. Iowa State might have a better offense thanks to your QB situation, but Nebraska has one of the best defenses in the nation while ours can be, well, anemic. In the great Blackshirt tradition, the defensive side of the ball is the reason Nebraska is and should be favored. I HOPE that our more talented defense will be experienced enough by the time we play you to make it a fight, but I'm not EXPECTING Iowa State to win it.

burkhead was out. we ran with a very very injured helu (whom accounted for at least 1 of those fumles) and robinson whom is our 3rd stringer....

 

[Blaze1up]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

 

[GMoose]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

So thaaaaat's what they're smoking. Now it makes sense.

 

[Cyclone Sloup]

Cocaine is a hell of a drug

CHARLIE MURPHY!!!

 

[knapplc]

what you folks are forgetting, overlooking, not seeing...

It's a college football game. there's more ways to win a game than eight turnovers.

one or two might be enough. maybe none.

that's why the games are played.

doesn't take lightning or a spine in the spineless beebe to beat NU in ames.

miracles come in all kinds of forms. maybe it just takes a little Paul Rhodes magic or a LITTLE luck, just a smidgin.

Being a Clone fan you don't know much about football so you're forgiven your childlike optimism, but the reality is that you only held one team to one score all year, and that was Nebraska and their eight turnovers. The ONLY way you won that game is eight turnovers.

 

[Manhattan]

Still, Huskers, you guys did have eight turnovers. It's not like saying a grand piano fell on the offensive huddle.

 

[knapplc]

Still, Huskers, you guys did have eight turnovers. It's not like saying a grand piano fell on the offensive huddle.

Did you watch the game?

 

[Ringer02]

not to mention 3 of those turnovers were within the 5 yard line, if just one of those are field goals we win. It wasn't some great defensive battle it was a fluke.

 

[deedsker15]

Sloup, I certainly understand how you're explaining the "Paul Rhoads factor". The thing is, many people can't take the ISU hype as seriously as you can be because your close losses were to Kansas State and Kansas, while Nebraska's were to #10 Virginia Tech and #2 Texas. And of course you had the win over Nebraska. But when people say they can beat Nebraska next year based on last year's game...I'm sure a logical fan like yourself realizes that is nothing more than blind homerism.

No doubt what CPR did last year was great. And I too would be excited if he were my team's coach. But making that proverbial leap is no easy task for a team like ISU. Just being matter of fact, it is simply easier for a team like Arkansas, aTm, or UCLA to get out of a hole because of tradition and clout than teams like ISU.

gotta respond to this one... it's too good to pass up.

slightly modified to present an "outsider's" perspective...

We certainly understand how you're explaining the "Bo Pelini factor", however, many people can't take the Neb hype as seriously as you can because you lost to top ten Virginia Tech and Texas.. you suffered a loss to pitiful unranked ISU in Lincoln and of course there was the three touchdown loss to TTech. That takes a little luster from a shiny season and dulls the hype more than a little.

to stretch the "logic" even farther (this will be fun)...

But when huskers say they ABSOLUTELY WILL beat a team that beat them at home (isu) last year, on the road, based on past wins... I'm sure a logical fan like yourself realizes that is nothing more than blind homerism.

make sense? not really.

As always, I will be rooting for the mighty huskers until they play in Ames.

Then, like many clown fans, I will be hoping the clones outplay the huskers again. One more time.

well...i think we are looking more at the history of iowa state here...iowa state offenses average 5.3 points per game against bo pelini defenses...what part of that short history doesn't make us think we can beat you?

bo pelini has played isu twice since he took the reins, he won one easily and lost one painfully.

Most recently - he lost one, painfully, at home.

Bo pelini offenses average 7 points against Paul Rhodes defenses.

what part of that short history makes you think he'll win the next one on the road?

we can play these goofy games all day.

point is, despite what the average husker fan thinks, past wins/losses mean very little, especially to the players on the field.

the further back you go in time, the less they mean tomorrow.

Many of the guys that won big at ISU in 2008... aren't here. There will be more guys on BOTH 2010 rosters that played in the 2009 isu victory than the 2008 game... just the numbers.

BTW- IMO, it will take a miracle to beat neb two years in a row. But doing it last year makes some clone fans extra hopeful that it CAN happen.

It's a FAN thing.

yeah...and i said bo pelini defenses...as in when he was our d coordinator and shut out iowa state...

 

[BrooklynsFinest]

Sloup, I certainly understand how you're explaining the "Paul Rhoads factor". The thing is, many people can't take the ISU hype as seriously as you can be because your close losses were to Kansas State and Kansas, while Nebraska's were to #10 Virginia Tech and #2 Texas. And of course you had the win over Nebraska. But when people say they can beat Nebraska next year based on last year's game...I'm sure a logical fan like yourself realizes that is nothing more than blind homerism.

No doubt what CPR did last year was great. And I too would be excited if he were my team's coach. But making that proverbial leap is no easy task for a team like ISU. Just being matter of fact, it is simply easier for a team like Arkansas, aTm, or UCLA to get out of a hole because of tradition and clout than teams like ISU.

gotta respond to this one... it's too good to pass up.

slightly modified to present an "outsider's" perspective...

We certainly understand how you're explaining the "Bo Pelini factor", however, many people can't take the Neb hype as seriously as you can because you lost to top ten Virginia Tech and Texas.. you suffered a loss to pitiful unranked ISU in Lincoln and of course there was the three touchdown loss to TTech. That takes a little luster from a shiny season and dulls the hype more than a little.

to stretch the "logic" even farther (this will be fun)...

But when huskers say they ABSOLUTELY WILL beat a team that beat them at home (isu) last year, on the road, based on past wins... I'm sure a logical fan like yourself realizes that is nothing more than blind homerism.

make sense? not really.

As always, I will be rooting for the mighty huskers until they play in Ames.

Then, like many clown fans, I will be hoping the clones outplay the huskers again. One more time.

well...i think we are looking more at the history of iowa state here...iowa state offenses average 5.3 points per game against bo pelini defenses...what part of that short history doesn't make us think we can beat you?

bo pelini has played isu twice since he took the reins, he won one easily and lost one painfully.

Most recently - he lost one, painfully, at home.

Bo pelini offenses average 7 points against Paul Rhodes defenses.

 

what part of that short history makes you think he'll win the next one on the road?

we can play these goofy games all day.

point is, despite what the average husker fan thinks, past wins/losses mean very little, especially to the players on the field.

the further back you go in time, the less they mean tomorrow.

Many of the guys that won big at ISU in 2008... aren't here. There will be more guys on BOTH 2010 rosters that played in the 2009 isu victory than the 2008 game... just the numbers.

BTW- IMO, it will take a miracle to beat neb two years in a row. But doing it last year makes some clone fans extra hopeful that it CAN happen.

It's a FAN thing.

Because 7 - 5.3 = +1.7 in favor of Nebraska?

 

[Manhattan]

Still, Huskers, you guys did have eight turnovers. It's not like saying a grand piano fell on the offensive huddle.

Did you watch the game?

No, but the facts speak for itself. So it was a fluke - totally understandable - but it still means that the Huskers lost the ball eight times to... Iowa State. I can't imagine a circumstance where eight turnovers are excusable. The Vikings had 8 turnovers in the NFC championship. Good team, yes, but eight turnovers. And it was close, just like the Huskers and Cyclones. But they had eight turnovers. And they lost. That means they royally messed up.

 

[irafreak]

Beat me to it Brooklyn's. And it sure seems like clone is a troll. I read post after post of just stirring up trouble. At least the other isu guy in this thread is trying to reason with us.

And the OSU fan...watch the game....niles paul drops the ball on his way into the endzone...just drops it. Go to youtube. He drops it. It was a freak game. In 09 we had 12 ints and 11 fumbles lost. 23 total turnovers...minus that eight leads to about 1.5 turnovers per game....an absolute anomoly. And isu had 9 points to show for it. We kick just one field goal inside the 5 and we win. We're not trying to defend the game itself rather that next season looks to be quite different.

 

[sd'sker]

Still, Huskers, you guys did have eight turnovers. It's not like saying a grand piano fell on the offensive huddle.

Did you watch the game?

No, but the facts speak for itself. So it was a fluke - totally understandable - but it still means that the Huskers lost the ball eight times to... Iowa State. I can't imagine a circumstance where eight turnovers are excusable. The Vikings had 8 turnovers in the NFC championship. Good team, yes, but eight turnovers. And it was close, just like the Huskers and Cyclones. But they had eight turnovers. And they lost. That means they royally messed up.

that's the point. NU lost that game. ISU did not win it.

so even if ISU is markedly better this year, that has no bearing. NU will still be a much more solid team, no matter how much better ISU is and it will take another once in a lifetime fluke for ISU to pull off a victory, but it already happened once in our lifetime.