How did Washington do it? (Comparison between NU and UW)

Chris Petersen would have been a great fit at Nebraska[SIZE=11pt]—[/SIZE]IF he would have come here in the first place[SIZE=11pt]—[/SIZE]IF he had a QB and O-line to run his passing offense[SIZE=11pt]—[/SIZE]IF his passing offense would have worked in November in the Big Ten[SIZE=11pt]—[/SIZE]IF he had a well developed set of recruiting connections to bring recruits to NU. He had all these things at Washington. Did he have any of these at Nebraska?

That said, Petersen is an elite coach. Sure I would have liked to see a guy like him come to Nebraska. But even if he had come to NU it's doubtful that he would have experienced the same success that he's had at Washington. You can't just identify a great coach and expect him to be equally successful in every different situation or locale. It doesn't work that way.

 
There should be no talk of offering longevity to our current coaches based on their results so far. In fact their results so far should put them squarely on the hot seat next year. Time to stop making excuses.

Cool. Good thing there isn't.

You didn't even make it one comment on this thread without being proven wrong.

Comment No 75 of THIS thread... the comment right after yours...

"In addition, Riley could finish 5-7 next season (entirely possible) and he's not going anywhere. Eichorst will never fire him, because that would reflect negatively on him.

Nebraska has been clueless for the last 20 years on how to hire and oversee coaches.

 
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Proven wrong! PROVEN! BEYOND DOUBT!

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There should be no talk of offering longevity to our current coaches based on their results so far. In fact their results so far should put them squarely on the hot seat next year. Time to stop making excuses.

Cool. Good thing there isn't.

You didn't even make it one comment on this thread without being proven wrong.

Comment No 75 of THIS thread... the comment right after yours...

"In addition, Riley could finish 5-7 next season (entirely possible) and he's not going anywhere. Eichorst will never fire him, because that would reflect negatively on him.

Nebraska has been clueless for the last 20 years on how to hire and oversee coaches.

First of all, the quote you just offered isn't talk about offering longevity - it's conjecture of what they believe to already be true.

Secondly, your "there should be no talk offering longevity" bit is in regards to the fanbase? Who the hell cares what fans talk about? There are some Alabama fans that want to fire Nick Saban because he doesn't win by big enough margins. Fans are idiots.

 
There should be no talk of offering longevity to our current coaches based on their results so far. In fact their results so far should put them squarely on the hot seat next year. Time to stop making excuses.

Cool. Good thing there isn't.

You didn't even make it one comment on this thread without being proven wrong.

Comment No 75 of THIS thread... the comment right after yours...

"In addition, Riley could finish 5-7 next season (entirely possible) and he's not going anywhere. Eichorst will never fire him, because that would reflect negatively on him.

Nebraska has been clueless for the last 20 years on how to hire and oversee coaches.

First of all, the quote you just offered isn't talk about offering longevity - it's conjecture of what they believe to already be true.

Secondly, your "there should be no talk offering longevity" bit is in regards to the fanbase? Who the hell cares what fans talk about? There are some Alabama fans that want to fire Nick Saban because he doesn't win by big enough margins. Fans are idiots.
Especially some that post on forums all the time
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So....Alabama gives their coaches 4 years to win an NC period...and but, Neb Nebraska should only give them two before everyone should be pissed off we haven't won an NCraska was smart to give Osborne 22 years.
You know that's not the narrative,
It's not? He is all pissy and ripping on the staff basically claiming they suck and should be on the hot seat after two years because we aren't winning NCs. He claims we need to be like Alabama who fires every coach they have if they haven't won an NC in 4 years. He claims there is absolutely a brick wall about that. Win an NC in 4 years or you are GONE. But, he also claims TO shouldn't have been fired after 4 years.

How am I wrong on his narrative?

 
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the guy had 6 losses in 2015 and 6 losses in 2014 - "he sucks - what a joke"

oh wait he had 1 loss in 2016 - Come to NU

Are we really going to say that he is that good? Let's see what his 3 year record is after MR gets his 3rd year. Because if you compare first 2 years MR looks equal or 1 game better.
I am sorry but I don't think Riley will go 11-1 next year

 
There should be no talk of offering longevity to our current coaches based on their results so far. In fact their results so far should put them squarely on the hot seat next year. Time to stop making excuses.

Cool. Good thing there isn't.

You didn't even make it one comment on this thread without being proven wrong.

Comment No 75 of THIS thread... the comment right after yours...

"In addition, Riley could finish 5-7 next season (entirely possible) and he's not going anywhere. Eichorst will never fire him, because that would reflect negatively on him.

Nebraska has been clueless for the last 20 years on how to hire and oversee coaches.
You're seriously basing the attitude of what the program does by what a fan says on a message board?

You do realize the fan that posted that (along with all of us) has absolutely no say in what the program actually does....right?

Also....let's look at what Nebraska has actually done.

1) We kept a decent coach for 22 years before he won his first NC. He then went on a rampage winning 3 in 4 years.

2) We hire a coach who plays for an NC in his 4th year. We keep him around for a couple more and then fire him.

3) We hire a coach that doesn't win one in 4 years and we fire him.

4) We hire a coach that is here for 7 years and doesn't win an NC and we fire him.

I fail to see where we are doing anything drastically different from Alabama over the time frame being discussed as far as coach longevity other than keeping TO on for 22 years without an NC.

 
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So....Alabama gives their coaches 4 years to win an NC period...and but, Neb Nebraska should only give them two before everyone should be pissed off we haven't won an NCraska was smart to give Osborne 22 years.
You know that's not the narrative,
Of course BRB knows that's not the narrative.

He was responding to my comment above his where I said this:

"There should be no talk of offering longevity to our current coaches based on their results so far. In fact their results so far should put them squarely on the hot seat next year. Time to stop making excuses."

That's next year... as in year 3... as in Three years. And notice I said "squarely on the hot seat"... I did not say fired... yet.

As far a Tom Osborne:

Once again a quote from me... comment no 70:

"Longevity is a REWARD for performance. It's not something that you hand out like Halloween candy. It has to be earned."

Nebraska smartly and correctly rewarded Tom Osborne for his amazing coaching. Tom Osborne earned every bit of his longevity. If a coach showed up at Nebraska today and had TO's performance... Nebraska fans would want to elect him king.

Any one is free to go to Wiki and see the amazing chart of TO's career. It's truly amazing. Scroll half way down the page to view Osborne's amazing coaching career at Nebraska.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Osborne

If I had a special sports room or Nebraska room in my house... I would make a copy of that chart... have a poster made of it... and hang it on the wall in a prominent place with a spotlight on it. LOL That's how amazing that chart is.

 
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If you think those coaches were NOT fired... then I have ocean front property to sell you in Nebraska.

Look at the lame excuses you gave for them "leaving". "Didn't like his new contract"... ? Yeah right.

If Alabama had wanted Bill Curry to continue as head coach then they would have "given him a contract he did like". Same with the other coaches that Alabama fired.

Stop being naïve.
According to the majority of Bama fans I know online and in person, Curry didn't love the pressure of the Bama job, was going to interview with Kentucky while his stock was rising and was told if he did that he wouldn't be welcomed back. He did anyway, he got the job, and the rest was history.

That's the only excuse I gave. Perkins, who followed in the shadow of Bear Bryant, voluntarily left. Franchioni, who was trending upward, voluntarily left. One not-garbage coach was ~maybe~ forced to resign, but probably not.

This doesn't exactly back up the narrative you're trying to push of Alabama being some uber cutthroat program that Nebraska isn't.
Alabama has won 11 (going on 12) National Championships since 1958.

If a coach wins National Championships for Alabama... then Alabama makes sure you (coaches) stay at Alabama.

If you don't... you're gone. And in short order (4 years or less). Period

Stop being naïve.
Did you seriously just say "If you're a NC winning coach, Alabama makes you stay! If you're not successful, you're gone."

 
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