Husker QB - TJ Lateef

UncleTito said:
Dylan can sure throw a screen pass better than most. However, he has missed a lot of wide open receivers for TDs. His long ball, rarely seen, is not great. When he does connect those they typically have to stop and get tackled on the spot. His avg air yds per attempt are the lowest in fbs in many games. He can’t run (behind this line we need that and his uncle has been the coach for yrs so let’s not pretend we’re just gonna fix that). In college, for most teams, you have to be able to run to be good. He’ll never be great but he is def a serviceable qb. People showing stats like yds per game are just living in shadows of reality. He throws screen passes. Many fbs QBs can do that well. Without that, he doesn’t do much. Just looks better than the last few because of turnovers. Against PSU, we don’t even get to the red zone but once (cuz of EJ run) if DR is qb.
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Your posts indicate that you didn't watch Nebraska all season. Dylan completes passes that not many in college football could complete and he did so behind an offensive line that is mediocre at best. Although TJ's scrambling ability is an element that Dylan cannot match right now, Dylan's arm and instincts are hard to replicate. 99% of schools in the NCAA would happily take Dylan yesterday if he were interested in leaving.
 
Wistrom Disciple said:
Your posts indicate that you didn't watch Nebraska all season. Dylan completes passes that not many in college football could complete and he did so behind an offensive line that is mediocre at best. Although TJ's scrambling ability is an element that Dylan cannot match right now, Dylan's arm and instincts are hard to replicate. 99% of schools in the NCAA would happily take Dylan yesterday if he were interested in leaving.
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There were definitely some passes on Saturday that Dylan probably would have completed and TJ wasn't anywhere close.
 
BigRedBuster said:
There were definitely some passes on Saturday that Dylan probably would have completed and TJ wasn't anywhere close.
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And there was defiantly some plays that TJ made that Dylan would have taken a sack.. :unsure: Im not saying that TJ is "the man" but he surely has attributes that Dylan doesn't... Most likely either QB would have beat UCLA and Neither would of beat Penn St.
 
twofittyonred said:
And there was defiantly some plays that TJ made that Dylan would have taken a sack.. :unsure: Im not saying that TJ is "the man" but he surely has attributes that Dylan doesn't... Most likely either QB would have beat UCLA and Neither would of beat Penn St.
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Our pass protection was actually pretty great against Penn State, although maybe they rushed differently because of the threat of Lateef's running ability. But it's impossible to accurately compare, the gameplans for both teams are dramatically different based on the QB. Either way, I think it's pretty clear that Lateef's current limitations are a bigger handicap than Raiola's against good defenses. Which is to be expected, he's a true freshman making his second start in a tough environment against a good team who had a bad stretch.
 
Husker_In_WI said:
Our pass protection was actually pretty great against Penn State, although maybe they rushed differently because of the threat of Lateef's running ability. But it's impossible to accurately compare, the gameplans for both teams are dramatically different based on the QB. Either way, I think it's pretty clear that Lateef's current limitations are a bigger handicap than Raiola's against good defenses. Which is to be expected, he's a true freshman making his second start in a tough environment against a good team who had a bad stretch.
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Agreed, but I stick to my post earlier that Dana did not call plays to TJs strengths.. Hopefully Dana has a better scheme for Iowa... I dont think that I can handle another year of listening to my suckeye friends bragging..!!
 
twofittyonred said:
Agreed, but I stick to my post earlier that Dana did not call plays to TJs strengths.. Hopefully Dana has a better scheme for Iowa... I dont think that I can handle another year of listening to my suckeye friends bragging..!!
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More rollouts and boots would have been ideal. I’m sure Dana was careful to run TJ too much cause you really don’t want to get down to your third string QB on the road at PennState. Hard enough to win with a backup QB in that situation. Especially considering Butler decided to play the worst defensive gameplan putting even more pressure on the offensive.
 
twofittyonred said:
Agreed, but I stick to my post earlier that Dana did not call plays to TJs strengths.. Hopefully Dana has a better scheme for Iowa... I dont think that I can handle another year of listening to my suckeye friends bragging..!!
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I think he tried, but we were down multiple scores early and that kills our ideal gameplan. I'm sure we still would've lost by multiple scores, but coming up empty on that first drive was a huger blow to what we wanted to do.
Archy1221 said:
More rollouts and boots would have been ideal. I’m sure Dana was careful to run TJ too much cause you really don’t want to get down to your third string QB on the road at PennState. Hard enough to win with a backup QB in that situation. Especially considering Butler decided to play the worst defensive gameplan putting even more pressure on the offensive.
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This is absolutely cherry picking one example (I haven't rewatched yet), but more of this? Other teams know what our QB's strengths are too, and plan accordingly.
 
Husker_In_WI said:
This is absolutely cherry picking one example (I haven't rewatched yet), but more of this? Other teams know what our QB's strengths are too, and plan accordingly.
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Yes. More of that but tell EJ to be a bit smarter and get a quick chip on his way out when someone crashes hard. Like he’s taught to do.

And just fyi, there are also drop back then soft roll pass plays, boot legs, etc. just cause one play gets blown up doesn’t mean type throw them all out the window and say oh well we tried
 
Archy1221 said:
Yes. More of that but tell EJ to be a bit smarter and get a quick chip on his way out when someone crashes hard. Like he’s taught to do.

And just fyi, there are also drop back then soft roll pass plays, boot legs, etc. just cause one play gets blown up doesn’t mean type throw them all out the window and say oh well we tried
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He's the primary receiver, I don't think he's taught to chip on that play. Like I said, I haven't rewatched the full game yet. But I think we did a lot of things to play to Lateef's strengths. And it even worked reasonably well at times, our first 3 drives got into PSU territory. But we ended up with 3 points from those drives (0 from the one that got inside the 5) and gave up 3 touchdowns and a field goal.

The only specific play that struck me at the time as a misuse of Lateef was the 4th and short. That power play is all we run from that formation (technically don't know that we had seen it with the FB offset, but counting it as the same), it's been stopped before, and it's ugly even when it works. Maybe we didn't want Lateef needing to make a read, but I would've liked having some kind of QB run there. Now of course if Holgorsen called something else and Lateef doesn't get it, fans are screaming asking why we didn't run straight ahead. 🤷‍♂️
 
UncleTito said:
Dylan struggles on anything over 10 yds. He does go thru progression better than TJ (but TJ has played two games against way better teams than DR started with). DR can’t scramble, so he doesn’t - he takes sacks cuz he has to. His accuracy and yds are great…cuz he throws 95% screens. His decision making is good, outside of holding the ball so long but, again, it’s because he runs prob a 5.9 40. I don’t hate him at all but he’s nowhere near a top QB and we need to realize it
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Please use 60 seconds of your day on this video to realize you're talking foolishly. If you don't have 60 seconds just watch the first 2 plays.

 
The Dude said:
He played well against UCLA, but he was a total non-factor against USC and Penn State. It's difficult to not be underwhelmed after all the hype.
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He's a freshman and these are his first few games with abysmal line support, I'm going to give him a bit of a pass this year.
 
presidentjlh said:
He's a freshman and these are his first few games with abysmal line support, I'm going to give him a bit of a pass this year.
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The line has performed fairly well the past few weeks. No, they are not bulldozing lanes, but they're far improved from earlier this season. TJ's run threat has certainly factored into defenses being more hesitant, but the line has held up well recently. Especially after they allowed Pritchett to play consistently.
 
Husker_In_WI said:
He's the primary receiver, I don't think he's taught to chip on that play.
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Not necessarily. It’s a high low combo with the drag route designed to put 24 in decision making mode. EJ just has to put his hand out and stop the momentum of 99 then TJ gets around him. EJ has to understand that and make an adjustment as he’s 1 foot away from the end as he runs by. Looks like the play design was gonna work if TJ gets outside. The drag looks to be coming open.
 
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