Husker QBs

[gin_32]

SO I guess Martinez will be the First ever to start(a game) as a Freshman and end as a Senior....with/Redshirt?

Again, Eric Crouch.

I wonder if gin was tryin to say started Game 1 as a freshman and started every game until his final game as a senior. If that is the case, he would be the first in the modern era at DONU

Don't know if this is quarterbacks only or anyone, but his name was mentioned earlier, and I'm pretty sure Ralph Brown is the only player to ever start every single game, freshman through senior, as a Husker (96-99)

Ralph Brown.....yep...got a championship along the way...

 

[Eric the Red]

Just curious, when is the last time we have had a 4-year starter at any position aside from specialist? One doesn't immediately come to mind for me.

That's probably a good thing'

 

[VA Husker Fan]

SO I guess Martinez will be the First ever to start(a game) as a Freshman and end as a Senior....with/Redshirt?

Again, Eric Crouch.

I wonder if gin was tryin to say started Game 1 as a freshman and started every game until his final game as a senior. If that is the case, he would be the first in the modern era at DONU

yes that's what I meant....start every game and finish every game from Freshman to Senior at QB.....

Martinez didn't start the CU game in his freshman year.

 

[zoogs]

Just curious, when is the last time we have had a 4-year starter at any position aside from specialist? One doesn't immediately come to mind for me.

That's probably a good thing'

I agree. I think in the ideal world you want guys to wait in the wings, develop behind the scenes and mature a little bit, and have more established vets on the field while they do so. It is strange to me that so often we hear complaints about our QB situation constantly turning over and before Taylor never having a four-year guy. Why do we want a four-year starter? I think 2-3 would be best, although there's no reason 1 can't work either. Take Joe Ganz for example, he really started one year, but here's a guy who was already in the program for four years and had three backup seasons under his belt.

 

[Hercules]

Perhaps the reason we prefer less turnover at the QB position is because historically, Nebraska's best Quarterbacks have been 3-4 year starters. Turner Gill was a 3 year starter (only because freshmen didn't play on the varsity squad back then). Tommie Frazier was a 4 year starter. Eric Crouch was a 4 year starter.

 

[zoogs]

Scott Frost was here for two years. I don't want Crouch's freshman season any year. Just some counter examples, but usually the argument is about continuity -- but with someone who has been here and been the 2nd stringer, even if he's only here on the field starting for one year, that's still some good continuity IMO. I think 2-3 is fine, but I'd only want the 4-year guy in exceptional cases, because it actually is worse for continuity that first season.

 

[The Dude]

Just curious, when is the last time we have had a 4-year starter at any position aside from specialist? One doesn't immediately come to mind for me.

That's probably a good thing'

I agree. I think in the ideal world you want guys to wait in the wings, develop behind the scenes and mature a little bit, and have more established vets on the field while they do so. It is strange to me that so often we hear complaints about our QB situation constantly turning over and before Taylor never having a four-year guy. Why do we want a four-year starter? I think 2-3 would be best, although there's no reason 1 can't work either. Take Joe Ganz for example, he really started one year, but here's a guy who was already in the program for four years and had three backup seasons under his belt.

Cody Green comes to mind. He probably could have been pretty good if he had a chance to develop and mature a little bit. It's a really tough position to learn on the fly.

I think they've handled Carnes perfectly. Sure I would've liked to see him get a few more snaps, but don't rattle the kid if he's not ready to go.

 

[zoogs]

I agree with that Dude. Brion has badly needed to be behind the scenes so far and it derailed Cody's development to have him thrown into the fire so early. Partly blame the medical staff on that one, thanks for rushing back Kody Spano and ruining his career.

 

[Hunter94]

I agree with that Dude. Brion has badly needed to be behind the scenes so far and it derailed Cody's development to have him thrown into the fire so early. Partly blame the medical staff on that one, thanks for rushing back Kody Spano and ruining his career.

couldn't agree more, Cody was put in most games at the worst times.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

I don't think you necessary want to have, nor do you want to avoid, a 4 year starter. You want your best guy out there. It's not like you can trade or sign a QB as a free agent (well, Sam Keller was basically that, so was Wilson for Wisconsin) and recruiting is a lot of guesswork, so you basically have to go with what you've got. I'd think the ideal is a 3 year starter, so that he can learn from the bench as a freshman (and possibly a redshirt year). But if you've got a senior QB who is better than a soph, I don't think you sacrifice that season and put in the soph to develop him for the following 2 years.

 

[Hercules]

Scott Frost was here for two years. I don't want Crouch's freshman season any year. Just some counter examples, but usually the argument is about continuity -- but with someone who has been here and been the 2nd stringer, even if he's only here on the field starting for one year, that's still some good continuity IMO. I think 2-3 is fine, but I'd only want the 4-year guy in exceptional cases, because it actually is worse for continuity that first season.

Frost had a great senior year, but he didn't have the kind of year that Heisman Finalists Gill, Crouch, and Frazier had their senior years. I don't think anybody likes starting a true freshman or a redshirt freshman because that's always going to be a rough year - however, I think that the upside people see is that they have four years to grow in that spot, and that kind of experience produced far stronger senior seasons than those QBs who only got significant playing time starting in their junior or senior year.

Overall though, I don't think it matters that much. You put the best player on the field, whether they're a true freshman or a fifth-year senior. There have been tons of great players to come out of either scenario.