Scott Frost's downfall

Guy Chamberlin said:
I like how Nebraskans are genuinely fair and forgiving and uncomfortable trading in scurrilous gossip. But some of the rumors about Solich, Pelini, and Frost were true, and at the end of the day they had gone out and earned the criticism that led to their firing. I wouldn't reject the possibility that Frost was an arrogant d!(k, either. Some folks are searching for circumstances and other people to blame for his failure and I don't think we need to do that.
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I think it is natural because it just doesn't make sense to most fans. He was set up for success but for whatever reason didn't apply himself fully. It's easier to blame outside circumstances than it is to blame him just not giving 100% to the job. In retrospect it may be easier to understand... he really only committed to Nebraska after begging from the top level two different times. Once as a player and once as a coach. The first was a success because he was surrounded by greatness.
 
The Dude said:
You can't really lump in it with baseless intetnet rumors when there's a clear source directly from someone in the administration. That's sort of the opposite of baseless. It's actually quite easy to make out what he definitely did say.
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While I *think* that's what he said, I just downloaded the whole clip, did some denoising and boosting of the audio of the part where he whispers, and still can't make it out with any great certainty. There's no visual angle for lip reading either, so your claim of it being quite easy to make out sounds like it's just easy to convince yourself of what you want him to have said.

around the 7:30 mark for any other folks to try their hand at proving what was said
 
Hilltop said:
I think it is natural because it just doesn't make sense to most fans. He was set up for success but for whatever reason didn't apply himself fully. It's easier to blame outside circumstances than it is to blame him just not giving 100% to the job. In retrospect it may be easier to understand... he really only committed to Nebraska after begging from the top level two different times. Once as a player and once as a coach. The first was a success because he was surrounded by greatness.
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I think this is a great point. Frost enjoyed a meteoric rise with his success at UCF. I was one of the many who thought he was just destined to be successful no matter what he did. I knew Riley left the program in a bad, bad place, but figured Frost would fix it within a couple of years. When he was announced as coach, it was the first time in a long time that I thought we had program unity from players, coaches, admin, boosters, etc. While some cracks did emerge and we got shafted with the Covid situation, the fact is that Frost did not make the necessary adjustments or recognize his/the staff's weaknesses to get the program turned around.

Were he and his wife happy to leave Orlando for Lincoln? Nope. Does he come here if it wasn't his alma mater and a big pay day? Nope. Was he depressed? Sure seemed like it. The fact is that he and his staff were unable to figure things out and did not provide the belief that they would figure it out in the near future. All this talk about being a drunk, sleeping with coeds, skipping recruitment visits with 5-stars, etc. seems to be highly inflated and twisted beyond reason. In today's world of Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter/X, pictures and video of such activities would be out there. Relitigating ancillary reasons why Frost failed is not solving anything. I'll wish him the best (Once a Husker...), but I am thankful that we got Rhule and to have optimism going into this season.
 
Guy Chamberlin said:
I like how Nebraskans are genuinely fair and forgiving and uncomfortable trading in scurrilous gossip. But some of the rumors about Solich, Pelini, and Frost were true, and at the end of the day they had gone out and earned the criticism that led to their firing. I wouldn't reject the possibility that Frost was an arrogant d!(k, either. Some folks are searching for circumstances and other people to blame for his failure and I don't think we need to do that.
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If we are even fair about it, the stories don’t matter. The one that always ate at me was being late to practice in Ireland.

He verified his incompetence this week and there should be NO more questions about the circumstances of his failed tenure.
 
I do like that some fans think that coaches are robots and not like other humans that also show up late, leave early, joke, drink beers, look at girls...blah blah blah.

I know, I know "But he makes a lot of money!'

Look, as a coach myself, we are normal people. Stop treating us as gods. Gosh
 
Sean Callahan today in response to a question about a tell-all book about Frost.

No, I had the Frost book deal back in 2018, but the project eventually pivoted into the book I just finished.

The main challenge you'll face with a book like that is sourcing. How do you get real people to go on the record? You can’t write a book based on message board rumors—you need people willing to use their names and share first-hand accounts.

I know Mitch said The Athletic made a strong effort to put together a major Frost tell-all, but they ran into the same problem: no one could provide verifiable first-hand information. When Frost took the UCF job, they conducted one of the most thorough background checks possible. If there had been credible first-hand info that raised red flags, he wouldn't have been hired. They even contacted Trev Alberts during that process.

To be clear, I’m not defending his coaching or what happened on the field. But this idea that there’s a Frost "tell-all" book just waiting to be written—I’m not sure that book actually exists.
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Really odd. No one could provide any "verifiable first-hand information." Shocking.
 
Mavric said:
Sean Callahan today in response to a question about a tell-all book about Frost.



Really odd. No one could provide any "verifiable first-hand information." Shocking.
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Wrong!

I mean, there are soooo many golf course workers, bartenders, college girls, waitresses, mistresses and so on.

But NOW when they can cash in a bit, there are none??!!!
 
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