Shatel's Article

LINCOLN — I'm no banker, but here are the major talking points of the 2013 Nebraska football season.
You have to admit, the first sentence of Shatel's article is pretty funny. :lol:

 
I can only think of one game last year were NU came out and completely laid an egg in and that was Wisky II.
What do you call 653 yards by UCLA?

What do you call 500 yards and 63 points by Ohio State?

If those aren't eggs...
I think Knapp he means in terms of it being obvious from play #1 that we were flat out not ready to play. This was the case in Wisconsin II. I dont think we can say the same about UCLA or Ohio St. Sure, those two games also turned out pretty disasterous especially from a defensive standpoint, but we came ready to play. We had Ohio St on their heels on both sides of the ball that first quarter and our offense was up and down the field the first half against UCLA, then our defense was pretty solid throughout the 3rd quarter when the offense went stagnant. That 2nd Wisconsin game however. Yikes. They scored 3 plays in, Taylor threw a pick 6 on the 4th play, we clawed back to 14-10, and then it completely went down the shitter from there.
Exactly, Iosing by a big margin or giving up a lot of yards doesn't always mean a team wasn't ready to play.

 
Welcome to Huskerboard. Where you can spin and twist everything you say to somehow support your argument. No matter how illogical it is. It would be way way way to easy to just admit your original point may have been WRONG!

 
Starting off well, then falling flat on your face when the other team throws a couple of haymakers at you doesn't indicate, to me, that the team was ready to play.

This is a 60 minute game. That's why the guys used to hold four fingers up when the fourth quarter rolled around. They sure weren't doing that against UCLA, OSU, Wiscy or Georgia.

 
70 points 63 points and the most yards allowed in school history, yep those teams were ready. Holy sh#t do you people say this stuff in face to face conversations with other human beings?

 
Yes, actually you have said that. Every time you mention a mistake a player may have made, its always the coaches fault for not preparing, motivating, recruiting or whatever. So, unless you change your previous story, it's not the players fault for anything because the coaches could/should have done something differently.
As I said, the players are held accountable to the coaches, and if the coaches don't/can't correct the mistakes, then there's a problem. Yes, it is the coach's responsibility to fix the problems. Do you think that Bill Callahan should have been fired in 2007?

 
I can only think of one game last year were NU came out and completely laid an egg in and that was Wisky II.
What do you call 653 yards by UCLA?

What do you call 500 yards and 63 points by Ohio State?

If those aren't eggs...
I think Knapp he means in terms of it being obvious from play #1 that we were flat out not ready to play. This was the case in Wisconsin II. I dont think we can say the same about UCLA or Ohio St. Sure, those two games also turned out pretty disasterous especially from a defensive standpoint, but we came ready to play. We had Ohio St on their heels on both sides of the ball that first quarter and our offense was up and down the field the first half against UCLA, then our defense was pretty solid throughout the 3rd quarter when the offense went stagnant. That 2nd Wisconsin game however. Yikes. They scored 3 plays in, Taylor threw a pick 6 on the 4th play, we clawed back to 14-10, and then it completely went down the shitter from there.
Exactly, Iosing by a big margin or giving up a lot of yards doesn't always mean a team wasn't ready to play.
Wrong! A team doesn't get "ready" to play part of a game. If they're truly ready to play, they are ready to play a complete game. The only two instances where you can say a team was ready to play but lost by a big margin and/or gave up a lot of yards would be if they got totally and majorly jobbed by the refs or if the other team was just that far superior and we clearly should not have been on the same field with them. Neither of those conditions apply to any game we played last year.

 
EZ my friend, have you been practicing talking out of your a$$ lately? Cuz your getting really good at it.
I think you are a bit off here. Looking back at how good our defense was in 09 and how we had literally the best DT who has ever played here, I don't think it's unreasonable to think we would take a slight step back in terms of where we were defensively the year after.

Really having a hard time identifying where that's too outlandish of a statement. Unless you are Jason Peter and you think we should be running for 500 yards a game and giving up less than 100 yards.

 
Oh man EZ. You can't be serious right now. It's outlandish as hell and anyone who says otherwise is as drunk as you are right now. Enjoy your drink and enjoy your vacay dude.

 
Starting off well, then falling flat on your face when the other team throws a couple of haymakers at you doesn't indicate, to me, that the team was ready to play.

This is a 60 minute game. That's why the guys used to hold four fingers up when the fourth quarter rolled around. They sure weren't doing that against UCLA, OSU, Wiscy or Georgia.
IMO that has nothing to do with being ready to play the game. It does have to do with resiliency and being about to handle adversity. In the MSU, NW, and Wisky I, games NU was able to handle the adversity. In 2 of the 4 loses NU was not. That is what is so perplexing. You can say and feel what ever way you want about the UCLA game and Georgia game. I don't think they folded up in those games. With 2 minutes left in the game NU could have won the UCLA game. NU went toe to toe with Georgia for the better part of the game.

 
Were DeJon Gomes, Eric Hagg, Prince Amukamara, Alfonzo Dennard, Lavonte David, and Jared Crick "developed" by Pelini or were they just good players who got better? When I think of developing players I think of under-the-radar guys who surprised us, much like Osborne did throughout his career with walk-on offensive linemen and fullbacks. I don't recall anyone who wasn't already highly-regarded flourishing unexpectedly under Bo. We all felt like Hagg, Gomes, Amukamara, Dennard, David & Crick were something special when they walked in the door.
So Bama doesn't develop talent either?

 
Starting off well, then falling flat on your face when the other team throws a couple of haymakers at you doesn't indicate, to me, that the team was ready to play.

This is a 60 minute game. That's why the guys used to hold four fingers up when the fourth quarter rolled around. They sure weren't doing that against UCLA, OSU, Wiscy or Georgia.
IMO that has nothing to do with being ready to play the game. It does have to do with resiliency and being about to handle adversity. In the MSU, NW, and Wisky I, games NU was able to handle the adversity. In 2 of the 4 loses NU was not. That is what is so perplexing. You can say and feel what ever way you want about the UCLA game and Georgia game. I don't think they folded up in those games. With 2 minutes left in the game NU could have won the UCLA game. NU went toe to toe with Georgia for the better part of the game.
I can see both sides of this but my terminology would line up more closely with NUinID. Being "ready to play" means starting the game out playing well. If you're competitive for a couple quarters then end up getting blown out, I would file that in a different category than "not being ready to play."

I wouldn't term the 2011 games with Wisconsin or Michigan "not ready to play" as we were competitive for some time, especially Wisconsin. I would say our defense wasn't ready to play against UCLA, tOSU and Wiscy last year. Our offense didn't come "ready to play" in several game last year but usually recovered, thus all the comeback victories (not that the defense was great in those games, either).

 
I think a few people expressed concern along the DL when Suh left. Granted, a lot of people also thought Crick would step up and be the force Suh was - but Suh and Crick are clearly not the same.

For instance, I have a hard time believing South Carolina thinks their defense will be better with the loss of Jadeveon Clowney - granted, they won't be significantly worse, ala Nebraska, because they've recruited much better than we have.

 
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