The 2024 Presidential Election- The LONG General Election

Who will you vote for in November - new ballot:

  • Harris

    Votes: 28 71.8%

  • Trump

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Kennedy

    Votes: 5 12.8%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • Total voters
    39
TGHusker said:
I am not a democrat.  I'm an independent voter.  This was actually my first vote for a Dem presidential candidate.  I abstained or voted Libertarian the other 2x Trump was on the ballot.  I would have agreed with you to a small extent IF the Dems had retained the Senate and took the House.  Both are likely GOP controlled now and that will give Trump a blank check to do what he wants.  There is no one or no institution to checkmate him this time around.  Hopefully the military leaders will be a wall between trump and tyranny.  
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I agree with you that it is bad when one party controls all three branches, then add a majority in the SCOTUS. As a life-long Independent I have always voted third party (recently Libertarian or Green), with the exceptions of 2016 where I felt obligated to vote against Hillary Clinton and yesterday. I am cautiously optimistic that some things I favor may get better, and confident that some bad things would get even worse. If Harris had been declared the winner I would have felt as upset as some here do, so I can sympathize with the sorrow they are feeling. The only certainty is that things will get worse, only the pace will be altered.

 
Dr. Strangelove said:
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It will work this way for all types of people who voted for him though, when his policies affect them. But yes this is the perfect example. People will think since they are Republican and voted for him and are hard working people that he won't do anything to harm them. Then if they talk about what's happening to them they will become the enemy, which is what has happened to anyone who has ever done that before.

 
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Moiraine said:
If I voted selfishly, I still wouldn't vote for Trump because he isn't good for me in the long-term, but in general I don't vote selfishly. I vote morally. Usually the choices aren't great so there is no real moral choice, but I make the least bad moral choice.
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Agree 100%.    I can live and put up with bad policy but not bad character.  Trump's bad character with his policies will hurt many.  Like you and @knapplc said it may not affect/hurt you much personally but it will affect others we love or even our neighbors we don't know but care about. 

 
TGHusker said:
Agree 100%.    I can live and put up with bad policy but not bad character.  Trump's bad character with his policies will hurt many.  Like you and @knapplc said it may not affect/hurt you much personally but it will affect others we love or even our neighbors we don't know but care about. 
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Yeah. I vote for the greater good, not just in self-interest. I'd like this country to be the best it can be. 

This result... isn't it. 

 
Apsu said:
I agree with you that it is bad when one party controls all three branches, then add a majority in the SCOTUS. As a life-long Independent I have always voted third party (recently Libertarian or Green), with the exceptions of 2016 where I felt obligated to vote against Hillary Clinton and yesterday. I am cautiously optimistic that some things I favor may get better, and confident that some bad things would get even worse. If Harris had been declared the winner I would have felt as upset as some here do, so I can sympathize with the sorrow they are feeling. The only certainty is that things will get worse, only the pace will be altered.
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Again, I remain fascinated by your journey from the Green Party to a party the precise opposite of that. 

What is it about the two women you felt obligated to vote against that made them exceptions? 

 
Archy1221 said:
We all can hope
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I am curious, do you have a list of priorities you would be happy using political capital on? 

What are the top two things, in your opinion, that Republicans should try to accomplish this term? 

Archy1221 said:
Ahem,  why does D.C. and the suburbs of( overwhelming vote Democrat? 
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D.C. has an extremely large black population supplemented by predominantly college educated people. 

It's a bit like asking why Philadelphia votes for Democrats or a small town in central Kansas votes for Republicans. It has a lot more to do with demographics than some sort of deep, macro-reasoning I think you're alluding to here. 

 
Moiraine said:
If that's the real outcome then it was all worth it because I love caviar. But the Black Sea and Caspian Sea are really polluted I hear... apparently most caviar is farm caviar now. Can we get smoked salmon too. I want it daily for breakfast.
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Trump for president, smoked salmon and caviar every day! Hell i would have voted for him if that's what he ran on!

 
Dr. Strangelove said:
I am curious, do you have a list of priorities you would be happy using political capital on? 

What are the top two things, in your opinion, that Republicans should try to accomplish this term? 
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1) a hard line border specific security bill.  Once that happens, work on a long term immigration bill.

2) permanent extend the tax cuts 

3) reciprocal tariffs

4) talk Clarence into retirement in year 1.  He’s already done yeomam’s work and should get out while a quality replacement can be chosen. 
 

fantasy 1 that is impossible).  Break up the DC stranglehold on government and ship department agencies to various parts of the country.  

 
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