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2 hours ago, Bledred said:

Would be a welcomed change for both the Pac 12 and B1G to do away with having to pay millions to other schools to come play their teams in their non-conference schedule.  Now we can be on a rotation of Pac 12 teams each year for our non-conference games and not pay out a single cent.  This also gives the Rose Bowl more credence given that it is between a Pac 12 school and a B1G school.  So we will basically have a union between these two conferences yet remain separate at the same time.  I wonder if the ACC and SEC will being doing the same thing?  Losing at home to a team like Troy or Appalachian State while also paying them millions has been a problem the conference has been wanting to correct for some time now.  Now the solution is here.  No more millions to the smaller programs.  The gap between the haves and have-nots will get even bigger.  No more national TV embarrassments.  Our money stays in-house.  Our strength of schedule improves dramatically (for those who will determine who is in and who is out for the tourney).  It is win-win-win. 

But it doesn't solve those problems at all.

1. Dramatically increasing the strength of schedule will do nothing to reduce national TV embarrassments. Even more people might watch it happen. No one cares who the opponent is when you lose by 30+. There are also plenty of embarrassing losses to be had, i.e. Rutgers, Oregon State, etc.

2. The reason for paying the smaller schools is to get seven home games. The entire fiscal model is based on that. They only pay because they make ridiculously more. Having a partnership with another conference doesn't solve that problem. It actually makes it worse because you have schools with more negotiating power all arguing for the seventh home game. Any media agreement would be shared with PAC12. Likely far better for the PAC12 than the B1G. Also likely at the cost of a home game and a net loss for Nebraska.

3. . The SEC has proven beyond doubt that SOS only matters with equal records. The B1G has proven that cannibalizing your conference with more conference games leads to obvious inclusion/exclusion and exactly zero edge cases getting in.

I think it is lose-lose-lose. 

29 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

Can the players charge for their autographs now? 

Basically, yes. A couple Oregon kids got a memorabilia deal in place.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/oregon-football-kayvon-thibodeaux-signs-six-figure-endorsement-deal/ar-AALR4Hc

5 minutes ago, runningblind said:

 

You two clearly missed the part where it just says the athletes can be paid market rate for services rendered. I hate to tell you this, but beyond maybe 3 kids that won't equate to much.  Definitely not a crap ton of cash as you say and it's still against the rules for boosters to hand over big mac stacks or do anything of the sort.  You're over reacting.

"Market Rate" is terrible legal jargon that has been thoroughly dismissed in the courts in this context. You are reading it as the average of what everyone else gets which is fine when determining what reimbursement rates might be. However, if you can get that rate then it is literally "market rate". There is nothing that says where any individual would fall on the spectrum of current rates. It is well documented that Kylie Jenner makes over $1,000,000 per Instagram post. Saying that only a handful of athletes will be significantly impacted is likely short-sighted. It might still be illegal to just hand recruits piles of cash but I can't see how any coach will walk into a player's home without being able to talk to their player marketing department and show actual revenue numbers. Those numbers being directly impacted by business owners(boosters) and very likely growing as people figure out how to do this more effectively.

Researchers at universities have to give LARGE percentages, sometimes north of 50%, of their funding to their departments to help fund other stuff. E.g. Grad student stipends, etc. Wonder if any schools repeat the model in sports to help spread the money around to other athletes.

Also, has there been any sort of disclosure database announced? There has to be some system to keep in compliance with the university's rules. Just wondered if they were making it public.

19 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Is there a Tyreke Johnson thread or discussion somewhere? I don't know who that is.

There has been some efforts done, mostly using the star rating based on 247/rivals/etc. So "analysts" select their favorite recruiting service and map that to what happened in the draft. I haven't seen one with a team/offers focus but there are things like a 5-star is 80% likely to make the NFL but 5-stars only make up about 10% of players drafted in a given year. The numbers for a given year also get skewed when players leave early for the draft. From a data perspective it is almost entirely garbage in/garbage out.

3 hours ago, floridacorn said:

 

 

I'd be curious to know how they determine/acquire the data for the D1 averages?  For example, there are notable programs that don't even test 40's, & I can't imagine all, if many S&C programs are all willing to share testing results with competition.

 

 

My guess is aggregating independent studies. There are a staggering number of ongoing small studies being done by strength coaches, asst strength coaches, kinesiology majors, pt folks, etc. They have been gathering data for decades. You might not know the exact details for a given athlete at a given school but being able to determine averages by height/weight/age is likely pretty standard at this point.

What in the hell is a BA in Multidisciplinary Studies?

Can't recruit St. Louis with a damn. KC generally isn't a problem though. 

18 hours ago, Huskers93-97 said:

With a name like lockdown I expected more than .85 

Seems more like 'Minimum Security' might be more appropriate

10 hours ago, I am I said:

^^ 

I feel ya. But when he’s rollin we put up the yards, it’s so peculiar we can’t score. A lot of the RB just young. I’d guess one can break out this year to establish himself. 
In other words, glad Lubick is staying to help correct these things.  

I don't think it is all that peculiar. Frost's offense is all about creating space but you get in the red zone and the other team starts to put 8 or 9 guys in the box. When you can't run straight ahead very well the defense will cheat to the edges.  Fade/corner type routes could help to neutralize but Frost doesn't seem to like them or maybe the WR group isn't that effective in jump ball situations. Regardless, if you can't go forward and can't get to the edges you kick a lot of field goals.

No ESPN ranking hurts quite a bit in the average.

247Sports Composite 

The 247Sports Composite Rating is a proprietary algorithm that compiles prospect "rankings" and "ratings" listed in the public domain by the major media recruiting services. It converts average industry ranks and ratings into a linear composite index capping at 1.0000, which indicates a consensus No. 1 prospect across all services.

The 247Sports Composite Rating is the industry's most comprehensive and unbiased prospect ranking and is also used to generate 247Sports Team Recruiting Rankings.

All major media services share an equal percentage in the 247Sports Composite Rating.

The composite index equally weights this percentage among the services that participate in a ranking for that specific prospect.

All industry services have a different philosophy on number of "stars" distributed with each class. The 247Sports Composite Rating assigns stars based on an approximate average distribution of stars from the industry.

247Sports produces ratings and rankings that contribute to the 247Sports Composite. These ratings can also be viewed along side the 247Sports Composite for a comparison.

19 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

I think there is way too much rush to assume that McCaffrey cannot succeed as a QB at the collegiate level. He started 2 games and was 1-1 as a starter.  AM has started many more games and struggled this past season as well and was 2-4 as the starting QB  so he also failed.  Do we now just wipe the slate clean and go with Smothers?  

So a QB is only successful if they win games? Isn't there an entire sideline of other people that directly contribute to that as well? 

Not getting to pad stats against 3 or 4 weak non conference teams would be my guess. 

37 minutes ago, Atbone95 said:

... am I counting that bar right? Looks like 375lbs? That's a little... light for what I'd expect a 280lb OL to be squatting, even out of high school. 

Safety bar is 75, not 45 lb. Total is 405. Not sure if it is meant to be impressive but didn't look hard. Probably just advertising the gym to other high schoolers. Teddy wasn't the one who posted it. 

@ZRod Something is broken with the rankings/graphic. According to the B1G site Nebraska is still in last. Looks like they use overall conference wins, then divisional wins, then head-to-head as tie breaker

Here are the current standings.

There are 5 B1G west teams with two wins going into the last week.

Wisconsin plays Iowa(5-2)
Purdue plays Indiana(6-1)

Illinois plays Northwestern(5-1)

Minnesota and Nebraska play each other.

If Nebraska wins it is certainly possible to go from last to third this week. Wisconsin being the biggest question mark.

1 minute ago, Husker in WI said:

The winning out part is in our hands, and until we do I'm not going to worry about tie breakers. I agree it sucks, and if we end up in that scenario I hope (but doubt) the matchups will be reconsidered. But we have to win for the 'no contest' to matter, and if we lose a couple it won't. If it depends on our winning and losing at least a part of it is under our control. 

Actually we don't. The final games during championship weekend are based on seeding within the division and everyone plays. With cancellations in both divisions already this will be an issue. It might be to decide who is 3rd/4th, 7th/8th, etc. but it will be relevant. 

There are a bunch of streaming options but I don't know of any for a single game. Youtube tv and Playstation Vue are streaming services I have used in the past. Monthly subscriptions, cancel any time, cheaper than cable, etc. 

2 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

What you have here is exactly what you try to avoid when setting up any organization that is ruled by voting of a body.  You NEVER make it have to be unanimous because otherwise, the minority rules.

 

What good is having a board like this if the vote to play is 13-1 and the 1 vote rules?

 

Good Friggen Lord....these people are smarter than this.

What in the world gave you that idea?

3 hours ago, TGHusker said:

 

 

Does anyone have a clue why this is?    Why in the name of balance do we get OSU so many times on our schedule?    And no coach speak about 'to be the best you got to play the best'.  That is good and fine and I'd say bring it on if we had our 1980-90s teams.  Who influences the scheduling - is our AD involved?

@Bl@¢kShirt16 is correct it is all about the money. But we can't forget that Nebraska has gotten screwed as well. The schedule should have rotated through to the weaker competition by now but they set the schedules when Nebraska joined, and reset them when they realigned the conference for "competitive balance", and again when Maryland and Rutgers joined. If they just left everything alone for a while this wouldn't be so damned lopsided.

1 hour ago, 84HuskerLaw said:

Another issue that seems to trouble me is this.  The NCAA sets limits on number of competitions a school may have in each sport each year.   So, unless the NCAA changes those rules and many others (scholarships limits, eligibility, ages etc) just for Big Ten and Pac 12 (rest are still playing in 2020), all Big Ten players including NU athletes are losing this year eligibility.   They cant play two seasons in one year as that violates the annual max.  

Therefore, it appears the Big Ten is just BSing about spring play.  They cant play two seasons in same year.  As Big Ten wont qualify under NCAA new virus eligibility

rule,  Huskers are just screwed big-time. 

The NCAA calendar rolls over in August, not January, as it is based around the school year. Getting the NCAA to reclassify football as a "spring" sport for one year could be possible but they would have to redefine all of the critical dates and everyone would have to be on the same page. That ship has sailed.

My guess is that the Big 10 and PAC 10 players sue the NCAA for an extra year for circumstances out of their control when they participate in zero games.

2 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Ok. When did men’s sports bras become a thing?

 

 

A sports bra branded as 'catapult' makes me love this country even more.

On 7/11/2020 at 3:24 PM, Toe said:

Those chains look hard to disinfect...

Just put buckets of bleach on the floor and dunk the chains every rep. Added benefit of randomly disinfecting proximal surfaces with splashing and dripping on the way back up. This would include leaving puddles on the platform that players would walk through coating the bottom of the shoes. They would then walk around disinfecting other areas as they go. I see absolutely no way this could go badly. 

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Yep. We really cocked this one up. Say hello to the countries that will be playing sports sooner than we will. 

Trusting the numbers is part of the problem as they have not been well explained or even consistent. States like Virginia, Georgia, and Texas count virus and antibody tests as the same thing. Some states do not. There is also no filtering out of duplicates for people getting tested more than once. With antibody tests being reported and becoming generally available mid-May you would expect the numbers to inflate even with nothing really changing. Unfortunately as the testing was increasing states started to reopen, some goobers started running around with no masks for 'ma freedom', protests happened, and riots happened. Any of those would have a notable effect on the numbers. Combine them all and we don't have a controlled trickle as we turn the faucet back on. Instead we get a wide open fire hose and it becomes impossible to track what each portion led to. Because of the ambiguity I don't think anything will change unless the death rate significantly increases toward previous levels. If that doesn't happen I think we'll see something resembling football this fall. Another 6 weeks should be enough to determine what the current higher numbers really mean. That should give the decision makers enough top cover to make a decision either way.

14 hours ago, runningblind said:

This is the same every year, nothing new.  Iowa fans make this joke all the time.  Oprah memes, "you get a scholarship! And you get a scholarship!" Haha.

 

They also have had their top 4 rated commits sign up in the last week,  during the pandemic/dead period....curious.

Bagmen have been following social distancing guidelines forever. Now more than ever it should be easy to drop off a package without making contact and not raise suspicion. They can even wear a mask if they like. This is truly a golden age for buying  recruiting athletes.