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I forget which team it was this year, too, one of the players afterwards said it was the simplest defensive GP they'd ever put in.

Probably Northwestern! Stealing plays was a walk in the park for those kids! haha

I agree especially with this: "But take away his big play running game and he is just an okay quarter back."

Not bashing you because you are entitled to your own opinion. But I would say that the effort and focus put in by opposing defensive coordinators and players to stop his running is still causing problems. They have to game plan and play like at any given moment he could go 80 in a heartbeat.

Good lord, we could have one helluva statistics worksheet with a sweet comparison graph if we wanted to work that out. We'd make our college statistics professors proud!

I did the stats of average team defense we faced this year vs. last year. The rankings go to 120 and both Chattanooga (2011) and South Dakota State (2010) were not in the top 120 so I just had them cancel each other out. So here you go.

 

 

2010 Average Rank of Defense we faced- 68.69

 

2011 Average Rank of Defense we faced- 53.09 (that is excluding the currently ranked #4 South Carolina Defense we will face soon)

 

 

Total Team Defense 2011

(South Carolina #4)

Michigan State #5

Wisconsin #8

Penn State #10

Michigan #18

Ohio State #25

Iowa #68

Minnesota #77

Northwestern #80

Washington #94

Wyoming #98

Fresno State #101

Chattanooga did not make top 120 which is all that ranked.

 

Total Team Defense 2010

Missouri #6

Texas A&M #27

Oklahoma #35

Texas #51

Oklahoma State #69

Idaho #73

Kansas State #75

Iowa State #76

Colorado #90

Washington X2 #94

Western Kentucky #99

Kansas #104

South Dakota State did not make top 120

Thanks for your work so far................I went ahead and did the average defensive number of both season. Obviously we didn't have a championship game that we attended this year and I went ahead and left Washington out and South Carolina out, bowl games, so the numbers I was comparing were as close as possible. Can't help, but include Oklahoma in last years defensive hardness numbers. I came up with the following stats:

 

2010 average rank for defense: 66.58333

2011 average rank for defense: 53.09091

 

That's a pretty good difference IMO and shows that Taylor has gotten better this season despite the similar stats between 2010 and 2011.

 

If you take Oklahoma out of the equation from last year and compare the numbers they are:

 

2010 average rank for defense: 69.45455

2011 average rank for defense: 53.09091

You might also take into account that Taylor didn't play against Iowa State and Colorado last year. If you took those two games out, the numbers would be a little closer.

This is true and I thought of it but then to be fair we would have to take out the time vs Texas, Texas A&M and Missouri (I believe he missed time after getting stepped on) out.

Glad we got similar numbers, if I took Washington out I am guessing they would be exact same. I do believe that this is showing that Taylor is doing the same/better things against significantly better defenses.

I did the stats of average team defense we faced this year vs. last year. The rankings go to 120 and both Chattanooga (2011) and South Dakota State (2010) were not in the top 120 so I just had them cancel each other out. So here you go.

2010 Average Rank of Defense we faced- 68.69

2011 Average Rank of Defense we faced- 53.09 (that is excluding the currently ranked #4 South Carolina Defense we will face soon)

Total Team Defense 2011

(South Carolina #4)

Michigan State #5

Wisconsin #8

Penn State #10

Michigan #18

Ohio State #25

Iowa #68

Minnesota #77

Northwestern #80

Washington #94

Wyoming #98

Fresno State #101

Chattanooga did not make top 120 which is all that ranked.

Total Team Defense 2010

Missouri #6

Texas A&M #27

Oklahoma #35

Texas #51

Oklahoma State #69

Idaho #73

Kansas State #75

Iowa State #76

Colorado #90

Washington X2 #94

Western Kentucky #99

Kansas #104

South Dakota State did not make top 120

Am I the only one who thinks Northwestern was his best game? I agree that stats are overrated. He is clearly playing the QB position better this year. Maybe not as fast, but is making better decisions with the ball.

Northwestern was his best full game. 2nd half of OSU was his best playing.

I think it's impressive how we all see him as a good manager now but he is still putting up the numbers he did last year.

While I love to play devils advocate and disagree with you Huskers I think you're right about the Defensive player of the year thing. Just looking at stats David had a better year than Still.

 

I sympathize, it sucks. I feel the same way about Ball and Richardson.

Badgerfan I actually agree with you that Ball deserves the Heisman over Richardson. Ball has better numbers in a statistically better run defense conference.

I think Taylor Martinez has to be mentioned as a game changer, although not always in a good way. The team tends to go as he does, his play changes the game. Good Game Changer: Ohio State....Bad Game Changer: Wisky....

The American Football Coaches Association named Lavonte David a First Team All-American.

I have a feeling our guys could do that to Houston.....level of competition....

Denard is probably better than Taylor when Denard is "on." But I watched a lot of games where he was not "on," too... Considering their whole body of work this season, I thought Taylor had a better, more consistent season, even though Denard obviously won the head-to-head battle.

 

I've watched Robinson this year. He is head and shoulders a more effective player than TMart. Saying otherwise is pure homerism.

And exactly which games of Robinson did you watch?

I have thought all season that Taylor hasn't been running as good, I believed he was just running "smarter" but after watching this it is evident how much running smarter has hurt him.

For all this team's struggles, Taylor's quietly become very good at being, to use that awful phrase, a game manager. I thought the play he made to avoid a sack and find Kinnie, even though he was out of bounds, was a great illustrator of his growth.

 

The NW game was on the defense. The Michigan game was on special teams.

 

Really, I can only fault Taylor for one game this year, and that's Wisconsin. Since then, he's been far from our biggest liability.

 

Sorry but that Northwestern game was on the whole team. Had the offense been able to score 40 points on one of the worst defenses in football like it should've, that game would not have been an issue.

Go look up Taylor's numbers for that day...it wasn't in any way his fault. Rex and Quincy's fumbles are what killed the offense. O ya and the oline not being able to hold their own.

I can not wait for Caputo to be gone...

Bye Bye Ohio pipe line....

Huge crap call. Might have sealed the game....

Geez, I am as frustrated as the next guy, but these kids don't put themselves in the game. I would like a more talented player out there, but "trash", "garbage", "a joke"? If he is not good enough, then it's the coaches job to take him out. It's not his fault that he is not a great player. It is our staff's fault we don't have better players.

 

He should refuse to go in because he knows he can't compete.

 

Ya, if that was me, I'd quit the team because I'd get sick of getting embarrassed week in and week out.

If it was you this wouldn't be a situation because you are just some guy sitting behind a computer talking crap. I will admit he is getting beat but you took it too far.

Beck has had far from his best game, but receivers have to catch the ball. AGAIN today, we've had too many drops and unforced errors that kill our drives. That missed block by Turner on the option absolutely blew up that drive - we just can't do that to ourselves. We need everybody to execute on every play.

 

I didn't see the start of the game, but did see Marlow's drop, who else has missed. Even if Turner had blocked his man on that play, there were three more defenders right there, it wasn't going anywhere anyway (unless they tackled like us).

Reed had ball hit him square in the chest on 1st down late in the first half.

I think we should pressure more, Robinson panicks under pressure

We will miss Ben Cotton today...

I never heard what injury was?

Maybe that block is part of reason Turner is not playing...

So our receivers can only catch the ball if it's thrown to the exact same spot every time so they can get reps on it?

 

I guess that's why every week, all over the country, we see other teams' receivers making all sorts of catches that are too high, behind them, too low, etc etc.

 

 

Go watch Landry Jones. He consistently can put a ball on target. There is a trust between receiver and QB.

 

I remember watching Landry Jones throw 5 ints in one game vs us, it has taken him awhile to get to the point he is. That is when he was maturing as a QB and this is Taylor Maturing as a QB