Undone

9 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Casey Thompson is in Lincoln.  Let the rumors fly...

I didn't know that SCC was creating a football program?

Just now, Fru said:

We lose Kaelin. Dylan stays with Georgia. 

I would think that losing Kaelin makes it more likely that Dylan signing with us is true.

Lots of chatter in Lincoln that Dylan is N and that the announcement is coming by Sunday night. Standard disclaimer that there's absolutely no way to know if any of it is actually true.

7 minutes ago, brophog said:

If you just want to be the starting QB, you could go to Wyoming or Texas Tech.

Of course. But as high school seniors, Josh Allen & Patrick Mahomes were 3 star players according to 24/7. There are very few similarities between those two guys and Dylan Raiola as college recruits.

Now they're both perfect examples of how where you play doesn't necessarily matter in the long run, no arguments there. I'm just talking about the thought process that the college recruit goes through coming into his freshman year somewhere.

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

Absolutely.   And that’s an easier route at NU than GA 

Yep. That's why I thought back in the spring that we had a legitimate chance of landing him, given Rhule's college coaching track record.

Different train of thought: from the NIL angle, I think the amount of money any college team is offering factors into the equation less for high profile players like Dylan (who have a good chance of going to the NFL someday) over the low to mid tier players. Because if you make it to the NFL that money is going to be way more, most likely.

Dylan is one of those players. So I'd think the main criteria is who he & his family thinks can develop & showcase his abilities the best for the NFL.

7 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

1) Raiola will be best served to not be a true freshmen starter and learn for a year.   I believe his family knows this.

2) He is still in position to be a redshirt freshmen starter in a P4 conference 

3) the chance of GA trying to recruit over him or continue to bring in proven QB transfers is great than at NU.  

Yeah, when I wrote that post I didn't know that Georgia's #2 QB has supposedly transferred out. That negated some of what I wrote.  Yes, if coaching staffs know what they're doing then he's probably not seeing the field as a true freshman either way.

But I have little doubt that "playing earlier" factors into decision making - even if it's not happening your true freshman year.

5 minutes ago, Gorillahawk said:

I wonder if Dylan hasn't deep down felt like Nebraska was "home" during this entire progress, but OSU and UGA were better programs so he listened to some of the people around him pushing him to go to those other places, and eventually he just had an open conversation with those important to him and told them how at heart he wanted to be a Cornhusker like his dad and uncle. 

If he's telling his family that his ultimate goal is to be an NFL quarterback someday, I believe really strongly that all involved are trying to get him to the school that best fulfills that goal.

If I'm being honest, I would have said it was Georgia. But also Rhule does seem to know how to put players into the NFL and maybe we're putting the pieces together on the skill player positions to actually make us showcase & develop his abilities to roughly the same degree.

2 minutes ago, Mavric said:

Now Beck is expected to return so there is speculation that played into Raiola's decision to look around.

This context is huge if true.

What I would expect with a recruit like Raiola coming to a dumpster fire program like ours is one main thing (and then an obvious second one in the new era of NIL):

1. The big draw is having the potential to play much earlier than you would somewhere else.

2. You somehow get a bigger paycheck than any other competing offers.

#2 is very plausible. But #1 is more of a head scratcher if McCord is coming in.

I haven't read the last few pages of this thread. Just logging into the board for the first time since Friday. Is this McCord buzz even halfway legit?

Why would he enter the portal in the first place...and why in the hell would he want to come play for us?

Does anybody know when Purdy will have groin surgery?

I guess I'd have it like this:

1. T-Magic

2. Joe Ganz

3. 2AM (but he's almost tied with Ganz for 2nd IMO)

4. Tommy Armstrong

5. Ameer out of the wildcat.    

Just now, Archy1221 said:

copy and paste away if you like.   Maybe the sweatshops, college athletes, and  MLB pre-arbitration years baseball players can all

band together for better pay, since they aren’t paid what they are worth. 

I don't mind anybody trying to dunk on the sweatshops comment, specifically because I didn't make the comment originally.

The big thing I want to convey about NIL becoming reality is this:

NIL coming into existence was about getting rid of the rule that the NCAA had made that said the market can't decide (through whatever avenues) how and how much a player can make. Instituting NIL is less of an overt statement saying that college athletes "weren't being paid enough" as it is just admitting that the previous rule saying they can't make paper money (or any other kind of payment) really wasn't logically consistent. 

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

That poster could have used any other worker type but specifically chose child sweatshops.  If he didn’t want people to ridicule the post like @BigRedBuster is rightfully doing, he should have used a better example.    

Oop, we have somebody else that's struggling with reading comprehension.

I can copy & paste my last few posts for you if it would help.

32 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, unless those sweatshop kids are living way better than the average resident, it really doesn’t stick. 
 

well, unless we are going to admit that NFL players making millions are like slave labor. 
 

NOT!!!

I can tell you're still not understanding. I repeat: his point was not to actually have anybody reflect on how college football players are like people in sweatshops. I can't underscore that enough. It was about the concept in general of somebody being compensated something versus not being compensated at all and then saying "what's the problem; they're getting paid something."

NIL coming into existence was about getting rid of the rule that the NCAA had made that said the market can't decide (through whatever avenues) how and how much a player can make. Instituting NIL is less of an overt statement saying that college athletes weren't being "paid enough" as it is just admitting that the previous rule saying they can't make paper money (or any other kind of payment) really wasn't logically consistent. 

The athletes were never like kids in a sweatshop and NFL players making millions are not like slave labor "because that's not even enough money." Literally nobody has said either of those things in this thread - it's just you saying it due to not having understood the premise.

On 12/5/2023 at 5:09 PM, BigRedBuster said:

Comparing college football players to child labor sweatshops is akin to saying NFL players to slaves. Both are so far from reality it’s ridiculous. 

His analogy was great. It maybe just went over your head.

It wasn't saying that college football players are like people in sweatshops. It was about the concept in general of somebody getting paid versus not getting paid at all and then saying "what's the problem; they're getting paid something." Yeah, they're getting paid something - but it's obvious when some kind of disparity exists.

I think NIL is about people finally admitting that it was absurd for everyone else in the college sports ecosystem to be allowed to make actual paper money being a part of that system except the players.

15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Ya know, incase you want to chip in to the portal QB fund

51 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

So, again, what is the market for a college football player?

That is what we call a rhetorical question.

I'm mildly amused at my fellow Americans that reject the idea of allowing the concept of fair market value price discovery to occur for college football players. It's here, it's happening, and you're a part of it.

5 minutes ago, PDXHusker said:

 

 

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Members of the new subdivision will be permitted to strike name, image and likeness (NIL) deals with their own athletes — a significant move away from the current NIL structure.

 

Ah, thanks for this! That's what I was looking for.

58 minutes ago, 307husker said:

It won't matter. NIL can exist outside and on top of any NCAA institutional direct payments.

Is this confirmed information or just assumed to be true?

Could be that the NCAA would make outside NIL against their rules when this rolls out, I'd think?

46 minutes ago, floridacorn said:

Improving QB play next season is not just W's & L's in 2024 IMO, NU is stacking some reasonably impressive talent in the WR & TE rooms and how long will they be content splitting 11 catches & 135 yards per game or even modest improvement from that?

This is some really good analysis right here. And it isn't just accuracy or play calling in general that affects the bolded part. I think it's also:

1. Some kind of drive by our staff (past and present) to run the QB quite a bit.

2. This season we ran the play clock down on almost every single play, resulting in fewer offensive plays, period.

People will argue that item #1 starts to go away if the other elements are clicking. But this goes to the last thing you said about "establishing a proof of concept." This is kind of rhetorical here, but what is the proof of concept?

I think we're all really wondering that heading into year 2.

4 hours ago, floridacorn said:

 

This is spot on.  Saban isn't a master developer of talent, he puts as much talent as he can acquire in the room, and it's survival of the fittest.  There is a highway of discarded blue chip recruits in his wake.  Ryan Day didn't bet the future of OSU on Dylan Raiola & he had him committed.  

Agreed.

I always say that it's dumb to pour over things coaches say in press conferences and then I myself proceed to pour over things our coaches say in press conferences.

The short version is probably like this: I thought his comments were weird. Don't insinuate that anybody on the roster currently isn't good. That said, you don't worry too much about what he says (in the presser right after the last game of the season) - you see what he's done by spring.

Nobody vote in the poll. Fight the urge - I believe in you!

2 hours ago, lo country said:

Watching Iowa vs Michigan, I think Rhule was correct.  We didn't believe we could play with Michigan. Iowa believes they can beat them.  Through one half, their D has kept them in the game.  Definitely  like that our D is playing in a similar way.  More depth and another year in the system and our D could be like that.  Just get the O to average... 

Iowa was never really in the game in my opinion. Their offense is even worse this season than their 2021 squad.

It is crazy though that Michigan only had 213 yards of offense and Iowa had 155. Normally that kind of stat line would lend itself to maybe a 17-14 type of game. But, Iowa's offense is next-level terrible.

Once Michigan got up 3-0, the game was over. The Vegas betting spread that landed at Michigan -21.5 before kickoff was basically just a question of "how many points will Michigan score?" Because Iowa wasn't going to put any points up.