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At previous stops Rhule used 22 personnel (2 RB and 2 TE) for a power running attack and used more RPO at Baylor.  Two different schemes.  I'm assuming running those based on talent, the league and guys he could recruit.  Reading an article from Mar 2023, Satt wanted to implement a pro style O with a strong run game and downfield passing. This is where I have some questions.  Sims is not a pro style QB.  So who pursued him?  Rhule or Satt?  Rhule is running more of what he did at Temple, at least in formations, but schematically, I think we have tried everything.  One because of Satts desire/background, we have seen the downfield passing attack (some success), we have seen Rhule's 2 back sets, use of FB and some various types of option (some success)..Throw in some counters, toss sweeps, etc and I think that we have seen parts of about every scheme imaginable.....QB play has been lackluster at best so no scheme, pro style (predicated on good qb) or any type of RPO (predicated on good qb) has little chance for success.  Throw in another year of leading the nation in TO's and again you have a recipe where no scheme works.

Rhule wants our identity to be a physical, fundamentally sound team.  The whole mantra of Resilient, Disciplined, Violent that they started. You can have this through any scheme.  Unfortunately our identity is mistake prone, undisciplined, unlucky, anemic offense etc....Which you can also have through any scheme ie NU under Riley, Frost and Rhule in year 1.  Just win baby.  Air raid, ground and pound, triple option, flex, wishbone, under center, in pistol, in shotgun....Just win.

I’m gonna call  BS on that list.  

2 hours ago, Rauol Duke said:

The minute I read that; I knew it was BS. OU fans neither read nor write. 

Haha. You must know my nephew. 

55 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

TO’s killed any chance of reaching goals/expectations. Sadly for NU, it hasn’t just been this one season… How do you fix it?

The number of TO’s we had would doom any team regardless of scheme or identity.  No way to win when you do that.  As evidenced by our 4 game losing streak and early losses.  Anxious to see a healthy Chubba with another year of coaching where he is getting some quality reps and attention as QB1.  Unsure how many reps he got being injured, Sims going down and the staff revamping to  get HH ready.  We don’t need a Bo Nix or McCarthy back there or even the 2nd coming of TF.  We need serviceable.  Make the rudimentary basic throws, read a D and be mobile enough to avoid sacks and some designed runs.  A lot of teams are doing well with average QB play.  Get that and build from there…..really wish we gone bowling for the extra practices alone tbh.

Glad to see guys who were not contributing under the last staff getting a chance to play meaningful snaps if not actually starting.  

1 minute ago, Undone said:

 

Regarding the Twitter link, I'm sure it really is a thing where if the narrative is that Satterfield can't get any production and everyone believes that, it could be hard to land a good passer. So I'm definitely going to give you that.

 

We could probably have our pick of the better run-first guys. But that's not what we need to get out of this purgatory.

 

So it could be hard to convince the kid that's a good passer in the portal to come to Lincoln. Maybe.

 

If I was Rhule and I'm talking to a recruit that's in Purdy's basic zip code (read: good passer and can also run), I'm going to show him film of the Wisconsin game and say "this is what we want to do, and you're going to have this 6'4" burner to throw fades & posts to."

Agree with you.  Satt is a hot button topic and gets "clicks".  Pretty polarizing guy at the moment.  And I do think it was geared towards you won't be a traditional QB and go there.  

I think that the best for NU in the B1G would be to modify what Michigan is doing.  Use the deep attacking pass and shorter stuff as an extension of the run, BUT use the QB more in the run game than they do with JJ.  And we don't have to do either as well as Michigan. They are a very physical down hill runing team, but use a "pro-style O".   Limit TO's, play sound football and lean on the D.    As much as I love a QB first run game, we haven't made it a season without the QB knocked out for a few games or more since joing the B1G.  Run enough to be a threat (designed runs and scrambles), but no be the leading rusher.  I like what Clemson has done with their QB's.  If we continue to use the QB as our primary runner, we will need multiple guys in the portal.  We were down to an injured Chubba for the last few games....

1 hour ago, Packerhuskerfan said:

 

One think I have learned about NU over the years and media.  We are the most loyal fans in the country.  We will click on any link with even the most remote chance of Husker news.  I know I clicked on it.  And as much as I bag on Satt, I also thought it could be commentary on the OL, RB's, receivers etc....not just Satt.

This is from a Gamecock writer...I didn't realize that our TO margin was a 10 year record.I know it won't change things as Satt is staying....But to see those stats in one paragraph.  Our offense needs a complete overhaul.  Those stats are horrific.  We can blame the injuries, lack of depth, TO's etc, but at the end of the day the OC is also the QB coach.  He owns a lot of this.  

The Cornhuskers are 121st in the country in points per game (18.7), and they average just 317 yards per contest (114th in the nation). Their 31 turnovers are the most in college football. In fact, that number is the worst in college football in over a decade.

The Huskers’ 27 touchdowns in the worst in over ten years for Nebraska football, and their 9 passing touchdowns are 7th-worst in the country. Big Red has scored 30 points just twice (over hapless Purdue and Northern Illinois), and they’ve been held to 20 or fewer points on 9 occasions.

More comments in the article below. SC not happy with him either.

https://garnetandcocky.com/2023/11/24/south-carolina-football-nebraska-satt/

7 minutes ago, HANC said:

I know that it is not a criteria or factor into bowl eligibility, but as much as I hate Fleck, they did beat us, so that is one team no one can complain about. Plain and simple. This team had multiple chances against subpar teams and didn’t get it done. 

We had the final four games to go bowling.  And lost all 4 in an unbelievable fashion.  OT and 3 walk-off field goals....You can't make this stuff up.  Any one of those games , one more play was made and it could've been the difference.  Each game was that close.  We have wandered in the desert for so long I have no idea how it ever changes... 

Note-Deserving or not at 5 wins, I would have loved to have gotten into post season....

31 minutes ago, Savage Husker said:

Good thought, do we know whether the 1s scrimmaged much after fall camp?

No idea tbh.  I know Rhule talked about the physicality, but unsure if that was 1's v 1's.  Hard to imagine they didn't have the same issues at practice. Even our #2 D got a lot of  live game reps.  Maybe they just went against the scout D?  If not, I can imagine Rhule and Co wondering why they practice well with no TO's and then give the ball away 6-10 plays in games....

2 minutes ago, WWG1_we_GBR said:

My point was again, opinion. Why a 1 year bowl ineligibility when moving up? It's dumb. Jackson St is 11-1. the other is Georgia Southern I think. Georgia directional in any event. They are 6-6, so their case is weak. But, I read somewhere that they lose the ineligibility year 1 in the event there are spots - which seems to punctuate my point completely. Move up to a tougher place...no ban needed? The annual discussion with mediocre teams suggests to me there are too many bowl games.

Way too many bowls.  We got in previously at 5-7 under Riley IIRC.  Not even enough .500 teams to fill them all.  BUT, I don't mind as I like to watch CFB.  Hate when the season is over.  Don't really watch any other sports as much.

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

I would watch two 1-5 teams play if it was all that was on. Because I'm a college football fan.

 

If you're only watching because your team is winning, that's a you problem.

Same.  I'll save the schedule and choose games around work and family.  I enjoy bowl season a WHOLE LOT MORE when NU plays, but I still like to watch them.  This season went by way too fast for me. I like to watch the FCS play offs as well.  Good football.

Just now, WWG1_we_GBR said:

games are still being played. there aren't 82 teams yet to my knowledge. But there are 2 teams that aren't "eligible" for the absurd reason that they moved UP from FCS to FBS that magically become eligible and take the first 2 spots if not enough teams get to mediocre. Sorry, I don't have a link for you. We aren't getting a bid - that is my belief.

No worries.  I know JMU is one. that moved up and has made some waves about a bowl game.    Unsure of the other. What I hate with that is that is known moving up.  No post season play year 1.   App St faced the same thing.  No complaints from them.  

1 hour ago, WWG1_we_GBR said:

History books are closed on the Big Ten West.

2014-2023, our Huskers have an impressive 21-38 record and zero West titles. Only Illinois is worse. Only Illinois and Minnesota also have no West titles. That is tragically bad.

 

On to the next chapter for Husker football. I am looking forward to new beginnings mostly because the past is a dumpster fire.

Other than the increase in revenue, it did the program no favors.  Thats a poor record.  And I am guessing look even worse without Bo's seasons...

3 minutes ago, WWG1_we_GBR said:

82 teams compete. Period. We arent one of them.

All 41 bowls are filled with 6 win teams?  Link?

3 minutes ago, presidentjlh said:

I would be surprised if there are that many bowl spots available.

Looks like 43 bowls (can't tell if this includes playoffs) with 77 teams qualified.  Still leaves 9 teams.  

https://herosports.com/fbs-college-football-bowl-games-which-teams-are-eligible-bubble-cpcp/

1 minute ago, krc1995 said:

That’s what he said. Saw it somewhere on Twitter, so I’m sure it’s true. lol 

A bowl is a bowl is a bowl.  One more game, extra practices and a chance for one more win.  I'll take it.  Even if we didn't "earn" it.

IMHO, the way the portal is now, unofficial folks, will reach out to "perspective" transfer portals unofficial folks to gauge interest and arrange NIL deal.  Don't really think that the "higher" rated guys just enter and hope to be taken.  Wonder who we are reaching out too?

2 minutes ago, krc1995 said:

My teenager says we’re 3rd in line for a bowl for 5 winners. 

I'm liking that.  So #3 in line for 5 possible bowls?

1 minute ago, HANC said:

Correct! I was going to mention the bowls, wasn’t sure how many 

Those were some rabid fan days for sure  Never knew how good we had it.  That's what makes it harder now.  Knowing how Nebraska was and the type of athletes we had.  A lot has changed in the landscape, but Bama wandered in the desert for years and so did OU.  Right staff, players, attitude I still have hopes we can get back. 

1 hour ago, Savage Husker said:

I have a feeling Tony White either zipped his mouth or had an “I told you so” moment with Rhule and Satt.

I wonder if our D generated this many INT's and fumbles during practice as opponents have in games.  I can't imagine that the TO issue only showed itself 1 day per week...

1 hour ago, HANC said:

Must be too young to remember Nebraska fans calling for TO to be fired when he could not be OU.  There was a time when we were that crazy

Losing 8 bowl games in a row (IIRC) didn't help...Oh to have those days where losing 1 game or the NC bowl was a cry to fire....

23 hours ago, PaulCrewe said:

Amen.  Damn near fireable to admit thinking a fake FG from midfield in the fourth quarter was a sound coaching decision 

Can't remember, but wasn't that also into the wind?  When I heard that on the presser, I just smh....Ridiculous.

8 minutes ago, Undone said:

The biggest problems in the Iowa game on offense throughout the whole of the game in order for me were:

 

1. The two turnovers that Purdy had.

2. Our inability to run the ball.

3. The missed field goal.

 

We had 30 carries for 75 yards. Nothing all that bad about 30 carries for your total - but that's 2.5 YPC. Terrible.

 

If you go back and look at the winnable conference games that we lost in Minnesota, Michigan State, & Maryland, QB mistakes are also at the top of the list of problems. This is why I think it's weird to fixate on scheme and play calling problems. We just need our QB's to not turn the ball over as the starting point.

Can't disagree at all.  When the guy(s) who touches ball every snap repeatedly have TO's through fumbles and INT's, no scheme will work.  NU, for whatever reason, has become a turnover factory.  Unsure how you fix this.  And it has been every QB this year. I do think that Satt has some culpability in this.  And more so learning that Rhule had moved him fromQB to RB coach at a previous stop.    As to scheme, I have a preference to a particular scheme, but my favorite scheme of all time is one that wins.