Mavric

16 carries for 105 yards and three TDs last week.

Averaged a robust 22 yards per carry (ON ONLY FOUR CARRIES?!?!!?? FIRE THE OC!!!!!!!) and scored two TDs.

Had a 66-yard Pick Six last weekend to go along with two rushing TDs.

 

 

He had 10 consecutive incompletons, completed less than 20% of his passes in the 2nd quarter, and had two of the most ridiculous intentional grounding penalties I have ever seen. In addition, if he doesn't grossly under throw the pump fake pass on the last drive, it goes for a TD, and we win. He also continued his problem with locking onto the primary receiver. TA is a marginal BCS passing QB. BYU is a bad pass defense team. They gave up on average 270 yards/game in 2014.

Actually, this was one of his better throws of the day. First rule of throwing the bomb to a wide open receiver is COMPLETE THE PASS! Make sure you at least get the yards you can - don't try to get cute and overthrow him. It would have been nice to get a TD out of it but it really would have sucked to not get anything out of that play. He threw that ball exactly like he should have. It should have won us the game.

come on. That was no where near a bomb.

 

So we're stuck arguing semantics now?

The play went for 27 yards. The pass traveled about 40 yards in the air. No, it wasn't the deepest throw ever but it was probably the deepest of the day. And it wasn't even that underthrown - Reilly had to slow up but I'd much rather have it two yards underthrown than 6 inches overthrown.

He had 10 consecutive incompletons, completed less than 20% of his passes in the 2nd quarter, and had two of the most ridiculous intentional grounding penalties I have ever seen. In addition, if he doesn't grossly under throw the pump fake pass on the last drive, it goes for a TD, and we win. He also continued his problem with locking onto the primary receiver. TA is a marginal BCS passing QB. BYU is a bad pass defense team. They gave up on average 270 yards/game in 2014.

Actually, this was one of his better throws of the day. First rule of throwing the bomb to a wide open receiver is COMPLETE THE PASS! Make sure you at least get the yards you can - don't try to get cute and overthrow him. It would have been nice to get a TD out of it but it really would have sucked to not get anything out of that play. He threw that ball exactly like he should have. It should have won us the game.

https://twitter.com/EricBurrell_/status/641641723542806528

It is very possible that this play is one the coaches used as a "teaching tool" this week because there were mistakes in the coverage.

Yes, that's possible. But what surprises me is it's not the "quarters" coverage I was expecting. It's a straight man-to-man with no safety help over the top - also known as Cover 0. Almost no one plays Cover 0 with any regularity except when they are bringing a big blitz and you don't have many guys left to cover.

Mavric, that play you show, one of the radio shows yesterday commented that Cockerell misplayed his receiver and he wasn't expecting him to go deep. Basically, it was a colossal screw-up by Cockerell.

I agree, but if he's matched up man to man, that's a lot of ground to cover for one guy. And we're not giving ourselves any room for error - one guy messes up and it's a huge play.

And if you put that play together with the previous play, it seems to me that we may be calling it a quarters coverage but it's more of a match-up man. In the play above, the three DBs on the trips side all lock onto a man and run with them. That was the same thing on the play before.

On this play, Cockrell lined up as basically an OLB and took several steps forward at the snap, looking as if he was keying the RB. And you can see on the replay from behind the defense that Williams - lined up at safety - started sprinting forward at the snap in an attempt to cover the slot. However, neither player was anywhere close to the slot and it was an easy catch on the quick out for a big gain.

But it definitely looked like we were running a match-up man defense - the corner on the wide out, Cockrell on the RB and Williams on the slot. But we aren't making it very easy on ourselves.

When I think quarters coverage, I think four deep zones. Are corners "on an island" if they are playing zone, rather than man? You would certainly not expect to have safety help "over the top" -- a zone over the top of another deep zone?

As I would see it - and this isn't necessarily how he runs it - the corners would not have help over the top, though it's possible that the safety on their side could be in the area to help depending on what else is going on. But I'm not talking about the outside guys, more the inside guys.

This is the play it was most obvious. After we had them pinned on the one yard line they hit a quick out to get off their goal line (more on that later). Here is the formation on the next play:

To me, we are already putting ourselves in a hole in how we're lining up because anything quick and to the outside we're outnumbered - the OLB is too far away to get to anything quick. But as to this discussion, the corner would have the deep outside guy and the safety (Williams) would have the next guy inside who goes deep as they would be in his quarter.

But that's not what happens. Williams jumps the shorter crossing route and we end up with both safeties covering the same guy and no help over the top for Cockrell who gets torched. (Sorry for the blurry pic)

Now, I don't know what the play call was. It's possible that Williams just screwed up his assignment. But if it's a true deep quarters coverage, it would be really odd for him to be that far out of his area, especially when the play started with trips to his side. Usually if you're overloaded to one side, you would squeeze your zones toward the overloaded side.

 

I guess I don't understand the "If only we had someone better". That is so easy to say and we all wish we had all american's at every spot but we have to roll with who we have. I guess I'm also hurting for him too because I know what he's done and the work he has put in. Finally got his shot and he gets hurt. On top of that we have a bunch of grown men throwing him under the bus. I hope he doesn't read this board, and actually given who he is, I'd be shocked if he wasted his time to do so.

Gangwish played a pretty solid game really.

 

Here's the problem Coach Power T. Guys like you and me, we let this board know how much we like the kid and respect his game. So now , when he makes a mistake, its instantly going to be brought up. Freedom made his sack when Gangwish brought pressure from the other side and forced Taysom right into Freedoms gap. Not taking away from the kid, but that's how it happened. McMullen didn't do a heck of a lot did he? Not anymore than Gangwish did. I haven't heard anyone bring up McMullen much at all. Its unfortunate how once you let people know where they can target you, its the first place they'll go.

 

Agree that we didn't get a lot from any of them (Gangwish, Freedom or McMullen). Actually, it's kind of interesting how similar they were on Saturday - they all had one solo tackle, one assist and one sack.

I don't know what all conversation has gone on lately but I think it's possible that Gangwish is being mentioned more now because of all the conversations about him previously. No one was really making an argument for McMullen earlier.

 

Biggest question I have is how often we ended up in single coverage with no safety help. Just watching the game in person and re-watching the first half in detail, I was really surprised that we almost never had any deep safety. I haven't gotten to re-watch the second half yet and we did better there so perhaps we changed coverages but what we did in the first half will not work long term. BYU had some decent WRs but we'll see a lot of guys a lot more athletic than they were as the season goes along and we had enough trouble staying with the lanky white boys.

 

his scheme puts the corners on a island where they dont have that help over the top.

 

and in that regard, riley's best hire for the defense might have been who he hired for wr coach.

 

But it wasn't just the corners. Even the slot guys were singled up most of the time. When I think quarters coverage, I think the safeties have the deep middle half (one quarter each). But it seems like they would run up to cover a short receiver as the Nickel guys were trying to cover a slot deep.

And that was another problem - trying to cover a slot receiver with a defender lined up as an OLB. Both Cockrell and Gifford gave up easy completions because they were lined up so far inside the slot at the snap. They have no chance to cover a quick out from there.

Biggest question I have is how often we ended up in single coverage with no safety help. Just watching the game in person and re-watching the first half in detail, I was really surprised that we almost never had any deep safety. I haven't gotten to re-watch the second half yet and we did better there so perhaps we changed coverages but what we did in the first half will not work long term. BYU had some decent WRs but we'll see a lot of guys a lot more athletic than they were as the season goes along and we had enough trouble staying with the lanky white boys.

Miami FL L, 36-33

Southern Miss W, 36-28

Illinois L, 14-13

Wisconsin L, 23-21

Minnesota W, 48-25

Northwestern L, 30-28

Purdue L, 55-45

Michigan State W, 39-38

Rutgers W, 31-14

Iowa L, 28-20

Foster Farms Bowl

Love this thread.

I think I will move it to Other Sports mainly so it will be easier to find in a not-quite-as-busy forum.

So he's visited for McNeese St. and BYU.

Perhaps we don't want him to visit anymore.

TE Brett Shepherd is visiting this weekend. No offer yet but we've been talking to him quite a bit recently. Unofficial visit.

Rivals

247

Word is he's visiting this weekend.

Player: Robert Beal
Hometown: Norcross, Georgia
School: Norcross
Position: Defensive End
Height: 6-4
Weight: 230
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Offers: Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisville, Miami, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Pittsburgh, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Toledo, UCLA, Virginia Tech,
Visits: 9/12/15 - South Alabama

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247 Composite: #73 Overall; #3 WDE; .9644;

Rivals: #227 Overall; #6 WDE;
247: #70 Overall; #3 WDE;
Scout: #119 Overall; #10 DE;
ESPN: #43 Overall; #1 DE;

Hudl

Langsdorf says it's not Carter.

Perhaps holding Wilbon back?

Watson out as OC.

Jay Norvell now calling plays