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Coastal Carolina’s staff. Or Cincinnati’s staff

Just now, The Duke said:

Thank you. That's actually a much better word for where this Nebraska program and it's fans are at.

 

We're just numb to it all anymore.

Moving forward, it’s operation Reclaim my Saturdays. I said it after the Michigan state game that they had one more of these unfocused losses for me to be done. So, at this point, I’m reclaiming my Saturdays. I love the team, but I’m not that much of a glutton for punishment. I stopped watching at halftime cos I knew it was just that type of game. Coaching and preparing with hubris on offence. 

10 hours ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

We are not even in this game without Adrian.  There were several calls that cost us the game.  Starting with the first half play calling, bogus pass inference that lead to a TD & a fumble that should have been called dead as he was moving backward. 

Martinez deserves all the credit in the world for that. But the reality is that in those final drive or overtime situations, Martinez is more likely than not to turn the ball over and/or make bad decisions. His QBR in late 4th quarter or OT drives to tie or win games is close to 0.0. At this point, it is what it is. 
doesn’t mean he’s not or hasn’t been a great QB for us. He is and has been so. 

41 minutes ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

I'd think 4-8 earns Frost a trip to the unemployment line no matter how special teams look. 

ah. but the catch is, if frost can overcome his poor attention to details, and get the special teams fixed, we most likely aren't going to be 4-8.

14 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

This tells me that alberts has not made the decision, but there’s probably specific markers separate from wins and losses that would allow Frost to come back. If special teams doesn’t improve and we go 4-8, I’ll bet Frost is gone. 

11 hours ago, JoseyWales said:

Someone correct me if i am wrong on this but I remember that Frost was asked after his hiring aoubt special teams/kickers.

 

His answer is something that you look back on it says alot.

 

When asked about special teams and kickers he said he goes down to the other end of the field, that he knows nothing about it.

 

You look back at it now and it explains alot.

yes. i remembered this, but i couldn't find any articles on it. he actually said he didn't care about special teams, or it wasn't a concern, or something to that effect. 

truth is, Frost is an offensive play design genius trying to moonlight as a head coach. and it truly might work, but he has to leave some of this clubhouse mentality behind. in the Big Ten, you have to be intentional and have an almost insane attention to details about what you want to see happen in your program, no matter who you've delegated it to, and no matter whose feelings might get hurt. otherwise you can't win for an extended period of time. 

21 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

There are improvements in a number of things, but there isn't improvement in the only thing that matters, wins and losses. Frost isn't improving and frankly I'm getting tired of waiting on for him to improve. 

in addition, the problem of claiming "improvements" is that the places inthe program we've truly seen improvements are in places where he has no control over (defence), or his hand was forced. otherwise, there isn't truly any improvement.

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

What's a missed tackle worth in points? If it's not an exact metric, then how do analysts A and B use the same grading scale for missed tackles? The answer is it's a subjective analysis aka an opinion on performance, so it's not an objective standard.

 

If Herbstreit or one of the other analysts had given AM a mediocre grade for his performance last week, I'd have criticized them too and not had as much confidence in their analysis going forward, the same as I'm doing with PFF.

who says it's not an exact metric? again, if the same metrics are being used whether a team plays in tallahassee or in pullman, washington, what difference does it make? it's a grading method. you don't have to like the method, but there is a message being passed across: the defense could have been better. 

10 minutes ago, gossamorharpy said:

wtf is going on with CTB this year?  guy has all the physical tools and given his track record was poised to play himself into a 2nd/3rd round lock of a draft pick and feel like he's playing his way out of being drafted all together

he needs to be reminded that he's not good or talented enough to abandon his technique. that's meant for people like ed reed, mike brown, troy polamalu, and deion sanders. even darrel reevis and champ bailey are hall of famers only because their technique was so sound and consistent.

5 hours ago, RedDenver said:

PFF grading is pretty suspect. Not really any different than other analysts' opinions.

Not really. you could argue that the metrics are suspect, but at the end of the day, they are using the same standard for all teams, and those standards are pretty objective. a missed tackle is a missed tackle, regardless of opponent or scheme. if our linebackers (heinrich, for example) made their tackles, we likely don't lose that game. if deontae williams doesn't miss his sack, we likely score more than 16. that's it. on the whole, we held them to low points, but on the micro level, we could have done much much better on defense.

that's why the national sentiment on Nebraska seems to be shifting from we're "trash" to we're "not too far off".

I learnt that Braxton Clark may be better than Cam Taylor Britt at cornerback.

14 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

Fire Verdu, Held and Austin and hire Helton as QB coach, Snyder as ST coach.  Possibly look at Clay Mcguire for OL.  

i think held is a bit underrated, and his rbs underperform partly because of the O-line.

other than that, i agree. if there isn't a cleanout, verdu and austin need to go. hire snyder and a great ol coach, and let the OC coach the qbs.

but you know frost won't do that.

32 minutes ago, NebraskaHarry said:

Nice fought game by Nebraska. Many expected a blow out by Oklahoma. 

As for the firing Frost "fans".. STFU... at least for another week. Theres no need to talk about that trash after this game. Thought Martinez played a great game, except for that last series. Actually saw a bit of progress with the offense.

Now does Nebraska need a special teams and new oline coach. Absolutely. That stuff was and is complete trash. Need something different there.

 

bruh. he just lost. it's not about talking or not talking. it's about holding frost accountable for easy decisions he seems unable or unwilling to make, which are costing him a winning record.

this oklahoma game definitely didnt help this situation. a loss is still a loss, but they truly didn't look so far off. the same three issues cost us a closer game, maybe a win. 

- special teams

- Oline consistency

- focus in the moment

all three are basically visible in pretty much every game in frost's tenure. and that basically speaks to a lack of attention to details. the little things are why frost is where he's at. its not really about any coach on staff but about frost himself. clean these up and he would be in indianapolis every year.

36 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

If Frost only wins 4 games this year how can you justify a 5th? Like really? That shows other coaches hey 4 years show us some progress. Any coach worth a lick could manage that assuming we continue to pay 5+ mil a year. 

i agree here as well. at this point, frost is coaching for his job every week. he's likely not going 9-3, so then its the nature of the losses that will probably determine if he comes back. Hopefully. At least we hope Trev Alberts is not going to just accept whatever we see on the field.

As of 2 weeks, maybe 10 days ago, i wanted Frost and this staff fired.

Part of me still does, because from a logical standpoint, his results say there needs to be a change, and if this were any other blue blood, we over here would be wondering why he hasn't been fired yet.

So why am i wavering? lol is this the textbook definition of "simping"??

The more i think about what could be with frost and some flashes of what we see on gameday, the more i feel he has a shot, a chance to show that he can succeed at this level and in the B1G. but, i just can't get around the issues this team has. or is this just a case of getting comfortable with the mediocrity?

We watch and wait i guess. hopefully the team comes out prepared and ready to play.

10 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

I couldn't care less how we compete against the Fordhams and Buffalos of the world. Beat someone with a pulse and then I'll be impressed.

I think Buffalo isn’t as bad as people think. I still think Scott Frost is basically interviewing for his job on a weekly basis right now, but Buffalo is not weak sauce.  Frost did a decent job given the heat, the officials, and his tendency to shoot himself on the foot. Plus they covered the spread easily. 

I learned that Scott Frost deserves his flowers for this game. There are still issues, but I think this was a good win. I’ll take that for a guy who has probably only had 2 in 4 years. 

Just win, baby!

i don't want nebraska to lose. the more i watch these other teams, the more i think Trev just needs to go ahead and pull the trigger.

Just now, BigRedBuster said:

That's not what was asked.

oh i was just trying to save you and me some time.

but i'll play. 

this is his 6th year as a head coach.

Just now, BigRedBuster said:

When did he become a head coach?

ah. i see what you're saying. What is scott frost dominating? is there any part of his program that is successful?

3 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

So....18 years?

huh? 

13 minutes ago, TheSker said:

What year in Osborne's tenure are you referring to correcting the deficiency?

early 90's.

13 minutes ago, junior4949 said:

 

The bolded sounds a lot like the old Big 8.

To an extent yes. we were already good and dominating the Big 8, but not necessarily nationally in the same way. Nebraska was able to realize the deficiency and correct it.. merged good to great talent with the best attention to detail and fundamentals in the country. took them to the top naturally.

Frost, not so much.