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I'm telling you guys, we need to go get Tom Allen from Indiana. 

watch him be top 3 in the B1G east this year.

10 hours ago, OreGUNHusker said:

At Oregon Kids loved him.. I live here in Oregon... guys would run through walls for him.. year after year... same at UCF.. did he bump his head on a plane on the way to Lincoln? Or is someone else really running the show and he is just a cog in the machine? I heard Adam Carriker say.. Scott told him at UCF he had complete control and could do what he wanted... but not in Lincoln.. WTH? Remember the BIg10 Coach a few weeks back that said N had talent.. plenty of it BUT had something wrong internally? I think we all have to agree... look at all the Qb's, Rb, Wr that have come and gone in the last 3 years.... Noah Vedral is the really ugly example of a home grown kid to leave the state not 1x but twice? Scott got him back here.. eligible and he goes to Rutgers? WTH??? Wandale, Mills, Gebbia, Luke , TL, Avery Roberts, Mo Washington.. on and on and on.. Scott loses good talent.. look at the production from Mills, Wandale and Luke.. ? bye.. gone.. If this was a Company and top talent was leaving all the time, HR would shut the company down for a week to do a morale assessment and fix turnover.. but here ? no one wants to address it cuz its Scott Frost... OR its someone else sabotaging the program.. I don't know if its Scott's blind commitment to 2AM or someone making him play 2AM.... folks said the same about Bo and T-Magic.. so?

At the end of the day, here's the deal.

Scott Frost is (still) an offensive play design genius. it's why he was successful in oregon and UCF. their conferences are filled with teams who just either aren't talented, or aren't beholden to having to scrap and earn every point scored on saturdays. in those conferences, you basically only have to "out-talent" your opponent to win. no issues for Scott there.

in the B1G and the SEC, no dice. if you aren't outcoaching your opponent, you aren't winning. that's it. look at teams from those conferences with great recruiting, but poor coaching - Tennessee, Florida State, Michigan, Texas A&M, and to an extent Georgia and Penn state. it's why we've seen certain coaches flame out in the SEC and B1G, despite being heralded. here's where Scott just doesn't have the required skillset.

Teams/Head Coaches that have the prerequisite attention to details and intentionality about personnel, schemes, and special teams are the ones who are successful. Frost just doesn't have that. you can out-playdesign all you want, but if you lack the will to prepare and compete at that level in all phases of the game, and the required attention to detail to prepare your team down to an individual level, you just won't succeed in those conferences. 

Something else that those coaches have is a certain amount of humility to take self-inventory and look inwards. no hubris. where you see hubris at this level of football, you see underachievers. and that's what Scott Frost is at this level.

He may well be successful at the next job he has, but don't let that fool you. if he doesn't develop the right skillset, he'll never be successful in the SEC or B1G.

3 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

I've been with my wife for a decade, I haven't slid into DMs for quite awhile 

send me dms please!

3 hours ago, Farms said:

Not that I think this is even the slightest bit true anyway but I would t not be excited to get Stoops. He’s 60 and isn’t gonna get the talent he had at Oklahoma. With him I think best case he could get the program on the right track and hand the reigns to an assistant, not much more. 

i would think oklahoma-level talent would be the least concern a new head coach would have.

1 hour ago, Husker24 said:

QB hits the open receivers we win this one. Adrian needs to ride the pine. 

I think the QB coach and the head coach both need to ride the pine. When the same mistakes keep on happening year after year, and you either can’t or won’t create a solution or a replacement, it’s no longer the player. 

At the end of the day, our offensive challenges have nothing to do with the players. it goes all the way to the top.

they spent the better part of fall camp playing misdirection with 4 supposedly talented running backs, only to trot out the youngest one, and then give the four talented running backs a total of *checks notes* 21 carries. against a newcomer to the B1G. in the first game of the season.

your QB can't find anything open in a house without doors, and won't set his feet for easy throws, yet you keep on calling complicated pass plays.

they pass when they need to run, and run when they need to pass. the situational awareness is terrible.

your supposed star 3-year center can't pick up a stunt, and tackles the running back sometimes.

stick with martinez as QB all you want, but there's no justification for not having a competent backup.

this is all about the head coach, the lack of attention to detail, the inability to recognize the situation, the inability to adjust, and the inexcusable inability to deploy and develop talent effectively.

this is all the head coach, folks. no one else.

man there are some losers in this thread.

losing sucks, but you don't have to be a loser.

1 hour ago, Detasselingthehuskers said:

I’m done seeing this sloppy and poor effort type of football. Who do we hire to replace Frost at the end of this year? Obviously we won’t be a big job anymore after firing our “golden boy”, but we can toss money at some coordinator somewhere.

 

The question is who though?

go hire indiana's coach. back up the brink's truck.

6 hours ago, Lightfighter214 said:

But he tried to drop Oklahoma. 

 

Arrogant people do dumb s#!t when their a$$ and reputation are on the line.

I was looking for a polite way of saying this. 
In many cases, arrogance is just a mask for some area that is deficient. When the hubris is bad enough, they can find themselves doing things to protect the mask instead of fixing the deficiency. That’s how really arrogant people come out looking stupid at times. 

22 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

In situations like this, there's usually an echo chamber at play. The folks inside the Athletic Department assume Husker fans will breathe a sigh of relief when they take Oklahoma off that brutal schedule and get us an early W to take some of the pressure off Scott Frost. Maybe they considered how the national sports press might run with it. Maybe they did not. They're just trying to help the program win. 

 

But they honestly didn't know what a bad look this is for Nebraska football until it leaked out and fans went in the exact opposite direction. This is about pride, and they read the room totally wrong. The AD is actually lucky this got leaked. Had they secured a new opponent and made the official announcement, it would have been much uglier. Maybe the leaker has an axe to grind against NU. Maybe the leaker was a true Nebraska fan. The fact that both could make the same case is kinda telling. As expected, the official explanation was panic-induced bulls#!t, but it did stop the bleeding. 

 

It's hard to believe the swapping maneuver would be done without the knowledge and approval of Scott Frost, and that's the hardest pill to swallow. 

the bit about the echo chamber is right, IMO. The folks down there in Lincoln know that if there are no results this year, they can’t justify year 5 or an extension. There’s no way an AD tries to remove Oklahoma from the schedule without full signoff and possible initiation from the head coach.
That no one down there saw it fit to point out the foolishness of this idea is just alarming. 
 

7 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

 

 

I'm glad Mike found another opportunity to be a condescending turd. The guy routinely mocks fans for having takes on the players that he is paid to also have takes on. 

Best thing I did when it comes to Nebraska sports is to block that guy on all platforms. He singlehandedly made me unsubscribe from 247 and stop listening to their podcast. At some point you have to be self aware enough to not insult and troll your customers. 
 

Then again, he would probably say the loss of my subscription fee does nothing to his paycheck...

11 minutes ago, kchusker_chris said:

*RUMOR* Mass Exodus Coming - "We'll unlock if said 'exodus' emerges."

....said exodus has emerged.

there is no reason to keep that thread locked.

Based on the smoke, shouldn't we unlock that one thread that was poopooed from head to toe?

8 minutes ago, Wistrom Disciple said:

Our peers are having that issue with transfers happening. Iowa has lost four guys in the past month alone. A comment on one of the stories was a complaint how at the first sign of adversity in playing time, many of their Florida-area players bolt for a different school. Could be homesickness for some cases but more than likely, it's a difference of expectations. 

 

For us, I think many of our Florida issues revolve specifically around the Miami area recruits. I believe many of them thought they could walk in and outshine some of the older players. I think the Florida transfers have the talent to be good here but if they aren't willing to wait and work towards being the best, it is hard to justify playing time. Guys like Scott & Clark were quietly putting in the work and earned PT because of that work ethic. Lynum is doing that too as a special teamer. Those guys have came in less heralded but are getting more use within the system. Doesn't help that the secondary was one of our more loaded areas with upperclassmen. The Florida freshmen would have likely benefited by having some patience as three of the starting secondary guys are likely graduating/moving on after this season. I really hoped Greene would've stayed as I thought he had a lot of promise and likely would have helped with other Florida players stick it out together. 

and yet, they are able to win in spite of those issues. you can't say on one hand say that kids being different today is part of the reason why Nebraska can't hold on to talent or build a successful culture, then on the other, say these same different kids would be nice to have in the program while they help other teams win.

at some point, we have to stop making excuses for poor coaching.

34 minutes ago, mwj98 said:

Interesting take. Kids are different now. It is a “play me now” mentality. We aren’t the only ones dealing with the transfer portal. College football has changed as a whole. 

So why aren’t our peers and lesser talented teams having this same problem? Heck, ferentz and his staff got accused of being racists yet they have a better record. 

33 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Exactly.

 

Husker fans: "You have to let the talent play!!!"

 

Also Husker fans: "How can Frost not have his culture installed by year three?"

So, you’re saying our issue is... too much talent? We can’t build a lasting culture because of the talent on the roster?

On 6/14/2020 at 2:06 PM, FrantzHardySwag said:

Coaches getting paid 5 mil a year in an industry with insanely high turnover, usually don’t purposely put out their worst players just because they are holding a grudge. I hope it was communicated to McQuitty, because there is 100% a reason he wasn’t playing, and it wasn’t because Frost didn’t like him. 

if multiple players are saying this, then at some point you have to look at what they are saying. it's nice and all to back the coaches whom we all love, but coaches aren't perfect, just like players aren't perfect..

On 1/11/2020 at 9:17 AM, Rusty Shackleford said:

now we wont never know will we!

Maurice, is that you?

for those in the know, why haven't we offered/got in contact? he seems like a good player, at least someone who can be a culture builder type of player. he's a better athlete than luke gifford, only shorter.

1 minute ago, Husker in WI said:

 

I just think that is a very, very small part of why we're not going to  a bowl game. Like not in the top ten reasons.

your opinion. but that decision created locker room issues and arguably contributed to QB poor performance and at least 1 loss. yea i'd say it could have helped us get one more win.

just curious. what are your top 10 reasons?

1 hour ago, Aliens05 said:

I don't disagree with you at all here, for losses and poor play early in the season. 

 

Another factor I think in the early part of the season was just the O Line in general. 

 

The main factor in losses towards the middle to end of the year in my opinion as Jurgens and the offense improved AM seemed to just keep getting worse and worse. I think poor QB play alone accounted for at least 2 of our losses, maybe more...

absolutely agree. just tough to be sitting there now not going to a bowl game partly because we chose to play a center who couldn't snap the ball when we didn't have to, then at the same time, blamed the "pieces around the quarterback" for the poor offense.

3 hours ago, ColoradoHusk said:

But if NU didn't beat Illinois and Northwestern, NU still doesn't go to a bowl game.

i'm saying players on the team knew we had a better center at the time who was being sacrificed for the future.

nu beat illinois and northwestern with average center play which was already available on the team. said average center play could have contributed to beating colorado, but instead we had poor center play which contributed to the loss.

1 minute ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Yes, it was a factor, but Jurgens strong play the rest of the season could have been factors in victories over Illinois and Northwestern.

 

I guess it was a gamble for Frost to start Jurgens at the beginning of the year.  The other option was another redshirt freshman in Farniok.  While Farniok may have snapped the ball better, I don't think he was a better overall center than Jurgens, as Cam's progression the rest of the season showed.

Agree that Jurgens may be better, But that’s not the central point. 
winning games over Illinois and northwestern cannot make up for not going to a bowl game, especially if equal center play would have been available. 

3 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

Are you blaming the CU loss on the decision to start Jurgens at the start of the year?

It was definitely one of the factors, yes. 

1 hour ago, N is for nowledge said:

Who ended up being one of our best most consistent oline....answers get him back for three yrs.....so there is that

That’s great. But we sacrificed a bowl game for that decision, even though we got better center play at the end of the year.