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Yale would more than likely beat Nebraska. A lot of senior leadership on that team.

 

To be fair, most of the teams in the Top 250 would be pretty likely to beat Nebraska.

 

 

This is silly -

 

Either you are saying that we fall somewhere around 126-150 in the country which would mean that MOST (about half ) should beat NU or you are saying that teams around 200/250 would be likely to beat us (which is not happening)

 

 

We were 6-17 against the Top 250 this year. So we had about a 26% chance of beating the Top 250 teams that we played. Meaning we were pretty likely to get beat.

 

Nice job spinning your words around to say something different....

 

 

Not really. You can speculate about what we might have done against the teams that we didn't play. Or you can look at what actually happened against the teams that we did play.

 

According to KenPom.com, we were #100. So we were slightly above the range that you gave that you would consider accurate for my statement.

 

But we also lost to Samford who is #224 (so we're actually 6-18 - I was assuming they were lower) so I don't know how you can say with much certainty that would would have beaten anyone in the Top 250. Last year we lost to Incarnate Word who was #228.

 

 

Anybody can speculate all they want, however that would just be a guess and that's all you can do if we don't schedule 249 games to play everybody else in the top 250.

 

You can pick an outlier to prove your point, however I could reply back with us beating a 2 seed that many picked to win the tournament. I would be making the same mistake that you did by finding 1 outlier that doesn't tell the whole season.

 

But you are right I can not 100% guarantee that we would have beaten xyz team in the top 250 unless we play them. You could also say the same on the opposite side about the 30 NBA teams - I think we are both smart enough to know that we wouldn't do well.

 

 

I didn't pick any outliers to prove my point. I noted our record against EVERY TOP 250 TEAM WE PLAYED THIS YEAR.

 

Now, you're assuming if we played some of the other teams we would win. That's possible. But that's pure speculation on your part since we proved we could lost to the #224 team in the country................

 

............. and beat a top 10 team in the country.

 

 

Yes. So did Middle Tennessee State.

 

But we're talking about what is "likely" to happen.

 

So we beat a top 10 team and lost to a low level team at the 225 range. Again these are outliers - every team has them every season. You choose to think it is "likely" to loss because you are more on the negative side and I choose to think it is "likely" to win because i'm more on the positive side.

But either way you keep basing your statement on one game out of a 30+ game season.

 

 

any coach whose QB completes 20 of 25 (80%) is going to naturally feel compelled to throw the ball more as it is working great! But typically when teams complete 80% it is because, as in west coast offenses normally, there are many short passes, much like runs which should high percentage completions. IMO.

 

Not all coaches agree that 'balance' of about half run and half pass is the ideal or desired or optimum amoung. I believe a team must be excellent in running and at least good in passing to be successful (defined as winning about 75% or more of their games consistantly). I would expect that statistically speaking, the winningest teams in history have run the ball more than they have passed it, particularly in numbers of plays but more than likely in actual net yardage. Note: sack yards lost should be deducted from passing yards not rushing yards to be a true analysis). IMO

 

I think the balance that most coaches are looking for are total yards being 50/50 not total plays.

 

Not really. When Riley looks for balance, he's looking for play calling balance. Inherently, a typical pass plays are going to produce more yards than a typical run play, so a team will have to call a lot of run plays, or their running game would have to be awesome to be 50-50 in terms of yardage, and not play calls.

 

Also, I am going to call BS on WCO QB's/teams completing 80% of passes. Wouldn't that be some type of record, and that's certainly not typical.

 

EDIT: Here are the records for career passing percentages in NCAA history. 70% is the tops.

 

http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/pass-cmp-pct-player-career.html

 

You could be right, however I feel on at least a couple occasions Riley mentioned in interviews the yardage stats and said something to the idea that he liked the balance. You are correct that pass plays that are successful typically net more yards then runs, however incomplete passes count as zero. If running stats netted 5.5-6 yards per carry and a teams average pass completion was 15-17 yards (with 60% completion) then the run / pass ratio for play calling wouldn't be that far off about 3 / 2. If a game got 70 offensive plays that would put it at about 43 runs and 27 passes.

any coach whose QB completes 20 of 25 (80%) is going to naturally feel compelled to throw the ball more as it is working great! But typically when teams complete 80% it is because, as in west coast offenses normally, there are many short passes, much like runs which should high percentage completions. IMO.

 

Not all coaches agree that 'balance' of about half run and half pass is the ideal or desired or optimum amoung. I believe a team must be excellent in running and at least good in passing to be successful (defined as winning about 75% or more of their games consistantly). I would expect that statistically speaking, the winningest teams in history have run the ball more than they have passed it, particularly in numbers of plays but more than likely in actual net yardage. Note: sack yards lost should be deducted from passing yards not rushing yards to be a true analysis). IMO

I think the balance that most coaches are looking for are total yards being 50/50 not total plays.

Why was Fulmer able to transition so easily? In 1998, not only did Tennessee lose Manning, Jamal Lewis (NFL running back) tore the lateral collateral ligament in his right knee in the 5th game. Even in the Orange bowl, Tennessee had a different look when Tee Martin came in the game. I know it was garbage time, but I thought the Husker D was still fighting for a National Championship, and did not want to surrender any garbage time points. I keep hearing how a coach needs to recruit their players, and it takes up to 4 years to implement their system. It seemed to easy for Tennessee to make the transition in 1998.

Wonder if the guys on the Tennessee boards know?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yale would more than likely beat Nebraska. A lot of senior leadership on that team.

 

To be fair, most of the teams in the Top 250 would be pretty likely to beat Nebraska.

 

 

This is silly -

 

Either you are saying that we fall somewhere around 126-150 in the country which would mean that MOST (about half ) should beat NU or you are saying that teams around 200/250 would be likely to beat us (which is not happening)

 

 

We were 6-17 against the Top 250 this year. So we had about a 26% chance of beating the Top 250 teams that we played. Meaning we were pretty likely to get beat.

 

Nice job spinning your words around to say something different....

 

 

Not really. You can speculate about what we might have done against the teams that we didn't play. Or you can look at what actually happened against the teams that we did play.

 

According to KenPom.com, we were #100. So we were slightly above the range that you gave that you would consider accurate for my statement.

 

But we also lost to Samford who is #224 (so we're actually 6-18 - I was assuming they were lower) so I don't know how you can say with much certainty that would would have beaten anyone in the Top 250. Last year we lost to Incarnate Word who was #228.

 

 

Anybody can speculate all they want, however that would just be a guess and that's all you can do if we don't schedule 249 games to play everybody else in the top 250.

 

You can pick an outlier to prove your point, however I could reply back with us beating a 2 seed that many picked to win the tournament. I would be making the same mistake that you did by finding 1 outlier that doesn't tell the whole season.

 

But you are right I can not 100% guarantee that we would have beaten xyz team in the top 250 unless we play them. You could also say the same on the opposite side about the 30 NBA teams - I think we are both smart enough to know that we wouldn't do well.

 

 

I didn't pick any outliers to prove my point. I noted our record against EVERY TOP 250 TEAM WE PLAYED THIS YEAR.

 

Now, you're assuming if we played some of the other teams we would win. That's possible. But that's pure speculation on your part since we proved we could lost to the #224 team in the country................

 

............. and beat a top 10 team in the country.

 

With star QB's being hit-and-miss even with modern recruiting, I just want to see us continue to take a top guy every year. Gebbia and Coan look equally good to me at this point; I'd actually take both if that were possible.

Taking both would be ideal, but id say theres about a zero percent chance of that happening. Lets just hope to get one of them for now.

 

I would say the chances aren't high, however we have a great opportunity at NU. Young kids see a lack of depth and a chance to be coached by some guys that know what they are doing at the QB spot. Also having one of the better WR coaches and a solid group of WR on the roster. Kids should see a possible path to the NFL

 

 

 

 

 

Yale would more than likely beat Nebraska. A lot of senior leadership on that team.

 

To be fair, most of the teams in the Top 250 would be pretty likely to beat Nebraska.

 

 

This is silly -

 

Either you are saying that we fall somewhere around 126-150 in the country which would mean that MOST (about half ) should beat NU or you are saying that teams around 200/250 would be likely to beat us (which is not happening)

 

 

We were 6-17 against the Top 250 this year. So we had about a 26% chance of beating the Top 250 teams that we played. Meaning we were pretty likely to get beat.

 

Nice job spinning your words around to say something different....

 

 

Not really. You can speculate about what we might have done against the teams that we didn't play. Or you can look at what actually happened against the teams that we did play.

 

According to KenPom.com, we were #100. So we were slightly above the range that you gave that you would consider accurate for my statement.

 

But we also lost to Samford who is #224 (so we're actually 6-18 - I was assuming they were lower) so I don't know how you can say with much certainty that would would have beaten anyone in the Top 250. Last year we lost to Incarnate Word who was #228.

 

Anybody can speculate all they want, however that would just be a guess and that's all you can do if we don't schedule 249 games to play everybody else in the top 250.

You can pick an outlier to prove your point, however I could reply back with us beating a 2 seed that many picked to win the tournament. I would be making the same mistake that you did by finding 1 outlier that doesn't tell the whole season.

But you are right I can not 100% guarantee that we would have beaten xyz team in the top 250 unless we play them. You could also say the same on the opposite side about the 30 NBA teams - I think we are both smart enough to know that we wouldn't do well.

facts are facts, every team in this field has players above NU, even 12 seeds. Our freshman, imo, would not start for very many of those teams at all.

Nobody is saying (myself included) that we are better then the teams in this tournament. Especially 12 seeds - no way in the world that I would say the 2015-2016 version of NU was a top 50 team in the country. However there is a lot of room between 65th-250th - We fall much closer to 65th then 250th. Not sure what your facts are facts statement means - but if it relates to losing to a team around 250th. We also beat a team that is in the top 10. We could both pick outliers like this but that doesn't really account for the other 30 games each season.

 

 

 

Yale would more than likely beat Nebraska. A lot of senior leadership on that team.

 

To be fair, most of the teams in the Top 250 would be pretty likely to beat Nebraska.

 

 

This is silly -

 

Either you are saying that we fall somewhere around 126-150 in the country which would mean that MOST (about half ) should beat NU or you are saying that teams around 200/250 would be likely to beat us (which is not happening)

 

 

We were 6-17 against the Top 250 this year. So we had about a 26% chance of beating the Top 250 teams that we played. Meaning we were pretty likely to get beat.

 

Nice job spinning your words around to say something different....

 

Yale would more than likely beat Nebraska. A lot of senior leadership on that team.

 

To be fair, most of the teams in the Top 250 would be pretty likely to beat Nebraska.

 

This is silly -

Either you are saying that we fall somewhere around 126-150 in the country which would mean that MOST (about half ) should beat NU or you are saying that teams around 200/250 would be likely to beat us (which is not happening)

 

 

 

Langsdorf on Armstrong: “He’s got to make the throws we want him to make and not try to do too much.” #huskers

6:08 PM - 10 Mar 2016

damn Langes.......maybe the throws you want him to make ARE too much?

 

 

Seems more likely over the last two seasons and two different OCs that Tommy is actually avoiding the higher percentage passes and insisting on the gunslinger throws himself. Hence "trying to do too much."

 

The Tommy who is allowed to do whatever he wants and play to his strengths is a fun player to watch, but also a bunch of mistakes just waiting to happen.

 

If he didn't get the memo last year, he won't get it this year.

 

Unless he feels his job is genuinely threatened.

 

Could be interesting.

 

my only comment is by now, Langes should know what throws TA can make and how to coach him out of throwing high risk balls.......i would have the guy in the film room, everyday, reviewing his passing from last season. the good and the bad.

 

who is langes?

 

 

We're up to #79 on the 247 Composite Team ranks!

#howfarhavewefallen

 

 

Step 1: Check back in 7 days and divide the above number by 2

Step 2: Repeat step 1 until you like the number.....

 

I guess for the first couple I should have said check back daily. After about the 4th revision it will be check back weekly - for the last few revisions it will be check back monthly.....

KJJ mind is already made. IF it is NU it will be within the first few hours here. That gives him time to start phase 2.

I'll take the QB that can run our system and get the ball to our wideouts. We have way more talent at receiver then we have in a decade. Got to use those guys!!!!

 

 

I would say number 41 is pretty high for a team coming off a 7-6 season and needing to replace bunches in the lines. I guess I view this as pretty positive really. Do I think we can do better? Yes, but to finish number 41, we will need atleast 9 or 10 wins. Can we end up in the top 25? Long shot but maybe with a little more GOOD luck this season.

 

Could we end up number 55? Yup. Not out of line at all. That would require us to win 7 or so. I don't know where we would have been 'ranked' last year after the bowl game but probably around number 60. So this is a good jump up in my view.

 

41 would be about 8-5 for a team from the Big Ten

9 or 10 wins in the Big Ten would be ranked in the range of 10-28

Based on the way we played last season it would be fair to say our record could have ranged from 4-8 (no bowl game ) to 11-2

 

I think 41 would be on the low side for my prediction.

 

Win over Oregon and we go 12-2 (bowl loss or ccg loss)

Loss to Oregon and we go 9-4 (bowl win and no cc game)

 

just my own opinion, but the Oregon game, to me, is not going to be indicative of Big 10 play..

 

Big Ten football and playing Oregon are not very similar. However, I feel like the team woke up with the win against UCLA and the Oregon game would be a spring board into a solid season. Time will tell !!!

It's OK to say we will be better next year. However, no way is it because of adding one player (insert name) and losing one player (shields).

I would say number 41 is pretty high for a team coming off a 7-6 season and needing to replace bunches in the lines. I guess I view this as pretty positive really. Do I think we can do better? Yes, but to finish number 41, we will need atleast 9 or 10 wins. Can we end up in the top 25? Long shot but maybe with a little more GOOD luck this season.

 

Could we end up number 55? Yup. Not out of line at all. That would require us to win 7 or so. I don't know where we would have been 'ranked' last year after the bowl game but probably around number 60. So this is a good jump up in my view.

41 would be about 8-5 for a team from the Big Ten

9 or 10 wins in the Big Ten would be ranked in the range of 10-28

Based on the way we played last season it would be fair to say our record could have ranged from 4-8 (no bowl game ) to 11-2

I think 41 would be on the low side for my prediction.

Win over Oregon and we go 12-2 (bowl loss or ccg loss)

Loss to Oregon and we go 9-4 (bowl win and no cc game)

 

We're up to #79 on the 247 Composite Team ranks!

#howfarhavewefallen

 

Step 1: Check back in 7 days and divide the above number by 2

Step 2: Repeat step 1 until you like the number.....

 

 

 

Why can some teams be successful with quarter's coverage but we can't and don't want it here?

We dont have the personnel yet to be effective with it as our base. We have not recruited the type of athletes in the back end to play exclusively quarters. When Mich St was an elite defense the past few years they had 2 top round CB's and 2 safeties that covered like corners and hit like LB's. Last year they didnt have any lock down CB's and their safeties were suspect at best and teams made a living making them cover 1 on 1. We took advantage of Mich st safeties covering our best WR's. To be a quarters team you must be extremely talented on the back end and have 2 DE's that make the ball come out of the QB's hands quickly. We dont have the talent on the back end or the pass rush yet.

 

 

I agree with your entire statement, however teams have to have a system and coach whatever talent they have to play that system to the best of their ability. a team can't change systems every two years to fit the current best players on the team. It is also hard to recruit a kid and say we will start doing it this way when YOU get here, however we don't do it that way now - but we will.

 

True. But you have to modify and tweak your system to fit your personnel. You can still teach and use quarters but you will have to mix up coverages a little more, and disguise some things on your pre-snap look. Early in the season it didnt seem like we were mixing up our coverages very much and teams took advantage of that. With a lack of a pass rush we had to burn a backer and blitz a little more than they probably wanted to last year. Just have to adjust to what you have and what gives you the best chance to win.

 

All is true. Coaches that know their system and know their personnel should be able to handle those small tweaks. As long as the tweaks aren't major systematic changes the recruits should be able to see the plan going forward. I think these guys will make big steps in all these areas this year (selling recruits / knowing how current players can be used / making their system work in the big ten with our fall weather).

This list could go on and on....

Iowa St

Texas at home

This in not just a Riley and that guy that coached here before him thing - every team in Div 1 has their ugly losses. It just shows that you have to be ready to play every week.

OMG....imagine the tizzy Husker Nation will be in if come fall, POB is 3rd or 4th on the depth chart.

Not sure what your angle is here? If the freshman is 3rd or 4th most fans would be completely fine with that. A lot of freshman fall into that range. The discussion is IF he is good enough to be the backup - what should he do with his first season as a backup NU QB.

 

 

 

 

Well...that got shot down fast.

Trust me when I say it's not over yet. There's more smoke to this fire

 

 

 

I'm going out on a limb and say it won't happen.

 

 

I will go out on a limb also and suggest that there are a 100 posters on here that expected a comment like that from you.

 

 

Yep, I make no bones about how Tim has done so far.

 

Funny - don't recall one time that you have mentioned how well he has done at bringing in higher level talent.

 

Why can some teams be successful with quarter's coverage but we can't and don't want it here?

We dont have the personnel yet to be effective with it as our base. We have not recruited the type of athletes in the back end to play exclusively quarters. When Mich St was an elite defense the past few years they had 2 top round CB's and 2 safeties that covered like corners and hit like LB's. Last year they didnt have any lock down CB's and their safeties were suspect at best and teams made a living making them cover 1 on 1. We took advantage of Mich st safeties covering our best WR's. To be a quarters team you must be extremely talented on the back end and have 2 DE's that make the ball come out of the QB's hands quickly. We dont have the talent on the back end or the pass rush yet.

 

I agree with your entire statement, however teams have to have a system and coach whatever talent they have to play that system to the best of their ability. a team can't change systems every two years to fit the current best players on the team. It is also hard to recruit a kid and say we will start doing it this way when YOU get here, however we don't do it that way now - but we will.

I would be shocked if POB sees the field this year. If he does, he will be lucky to have better than a 3:2 TD:INT ratio, having never faced anything better than a high school defense.

There have been a lot of freshman QB's that have had better then 3:2 TD:INT ratios in year one. I know that POB wasn't the #1 QB prospect in the country, however he came on strong late and think if he had more early hype and said that he was leaning towards a top 5 program his ranking would have been much higher. To say that he would be "lucky" seems to go against a lot of the success that young QB's have had in the past 5 years.

If POB is the backup this year which i'm predicting is about 75% likely - there is zero chance that he redshirts. Reason being is the depth at QB in Mike Riley's system for 2016 is poor at best. If POB plays this year he will lose the 2020 season. I'm guessing by 2020 our depth concerns at QB will be long gone. It will also be much more valuable for POB to see live game experience then only scout team.

Can Tanner Lee go scout team this year?? Because a good arm would be nice for the upcoming redshirts....