Ulty

Wait a minute, if kids these days have never seen Matt Davison's catch, is it possible that the only thing they know about Tommie Frazier is that he's an angry overweight dude? On the other hand, maybe they don't know about Lawrence Phillips either. Whew!

I was there in 1997, although the band was sitting in the opposite endzone, so none of us could see what happened. We saw a mass of students rushing the field after the play and then quietly walking back off as the announcer said "touchdown Nebraska" and we all went nuts. I didn't see the actual play until the next day on replays.

This weekend, I listened to most of the game on the radio, not having BTN. In the 4th quarter, I went on a walk with my wife and kids to take advantage of one of the last nice days of the year, since I wasn't getting too much out of the radio broadcast anyway. We walked back in just to listen to the final play, and it took me several minutes to realize the actual situation.

On one hand, it makes sense that he might not be too familiar with a play that occurred 16 years ago. But on the other hand, classic plays are classic plays and should be known. I was born in 1979, but I was always pretty darn familiar with highlights of Turner Gill and Mike Rozier. Even outside of Nebraska, the Cal-Stanford "Play" and Doug Flutie's big throw happened at about the same age that I was in comparison to the age Westerkamp was when Davison made his catch. Some plays are just unforgettable and impactful memories in the history of the game.

But, I guess I can learn to forgive Westerkamp. He's probably earned a little bit of goodwill, eh?

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/03/21299980-obama-presses-congress-to-pass-anti-discrimination-law-in-blog-post?lite

It's long past due for this to be proposed.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jonathan-martin-richie-incognito-racially-charged-texts-voicemails-miami-dolphins-nflpa-investigation

Is it any surprise that Richie Incognito would be involved in this incident? What causes one person to be such a douchebag?

Because it could happen. Seriously. I think.

I opened this thread expecting to be rick-rolled. Misleading title.

I agree with the above about what we might learn from this game. But I tend to think the biggest games, or at least most impactful, of Bo's career might have been TAMU 2010 and OSU 2011. TAMU was a $h!tstorm that pretty much galvanized the national perception of Bo and led to an attitude adjustment that limited the team's intensity. The OSU game was a miraculous festival of wonder that bought Bo two more years, but he responded after the game with pure anger toward the fans and media.

I like Frost and don't know any insider details, but there is no doubt that he would be a risky venture based on his experience so far. Texas Tech could afford to take that same sort of risk with Kliff Kingsbury because Texas Tech is frankly not a high profile program. They got lucky with an up and comer in Mike Leach, and got lucky again when Tuberville temporarily found a place there on the rebound. But Texas Tech is never going to be a program that will expect consistent greatness or to be among college football's elite. Kingsbury was a big gamble who came with goodwill due to his ties to the program, but he very well could have flopped (and hell, it's still way too early to tell).

Nebraska IS one of those elite programs (historically speaking), so we would HOPE that we can pull in someone with a more established resume, after calculating all the risks. Scott Frost would feel good for all of us for the sake of nostalgia and homerism, and I think he would at least deserve an interview, but even though any new coach is going to be a gamble, Frost is still too much of an unknown for a major program like us to take that gamble right now.

This board needs a subforum for threads about Kenny Bell's tweet.

Just bustin your balls man.

Tressel has too much baggage

Frost has too little experience

Johnson is cinsistently moderate, not unlike Bo , with a less impressive record

 

Its funny though, I was actualy picturing to myself today Bo at GaTech

That show clause would be the perfect thing for Frost though. He'd have the first 5-6 games as head coach with little pressure. Then Tressel gets back and stays for a few years showing him first hand how to run a complete team. Recruiting between Tressel's Ohio roots and Frost's young players coach type approach would be nothing but positives.

 

Eichorst would have my vote to be the highest paid state employee if he could pull that off. Don't see it as a realistic scenario if a change is made. Which I am starting to believe there won't be one.

In your opinion though, could you see that working?

 

In a case where we think we have this coach like Frost who is going to be the next big thing, I see it working better than just throwing him to the wolves. He'd be completely set up to fail here if he was handed the job. It would take some of the risk away. But again, Eichorst would have to do one hell of a job pitching this idea to both of them and signing them to contracts.

Hypothetically speaking if this were to happen, how would NU have to negotiate the NCAA's "show cause" order against Tressel in order to avoid incurring any other penalties? What exactly would NU have to say or show?

"That being said...it takes so much more effort to start a brand new thread than it is to put this thought in one of the hundred or so other identical threads. I just don't understand it."

At what point do you put it on the coach when you put 8 guys in the box and run blitz, the linebacker hits the halfback in the hole, and fails to make the tackle?

 

I hate to use the word execution, but...

 

I feel like there were quite a few great play calls vs. Minnesota, but a lack of players making plays.

 

You can now burn me alive with recruiting and development talk.

Is it a one time mistake, in which a player has earned playing time by showing coaches he can make a tackle, and he has otherwise prepared well for the game? Do the coaches see the mistake and correct it/coach him up? Or do we see a pattern of missed tackles, uncorrected errors, best players not on the field, poor preparation, poor fundamentals across the whole team over a period of time.... Whose fault would that be?

 

Uhh... Both Kevin Sumlin and Art Briles coached at Houston before going to the Big XII.

Christ, Houston is really churnin' those guys out, their former coaches are doing a hell of a lot better than Boise's former coaches. Screw Chris Peterson, let's take whoever is at Houston!

I don't get this. Why are we so willing to take the chance on a coordinator who has zero head coaching experience?

For me, it's all about the staff that he assembles, and the excitement he brings to the program. Year 1 is vital. Urban comes into OSU and recruits are lining up at the door. Kingsbury to Tech and they're bringing in tens of millions more in merchandise/ticket sales. You can go on an on, but hiring some old fart mid-major coach that's had some success is not going to be as impactful as bringing in a Kingsbury type of guy. Young, relates to the kids, recruits well, and emphasizes said recruiting, etc. The product on the field however, IMO, is more determined by the coordinators and assistants than the HC. Collectively, 9-10 coaches should have more influence on the outcome of the team than 1 guy...and we're missing that right now. Which, is why I'd be OK with Frost...only if the guys around him are qualified and experienced. Right now Bo, along with his 2 coordinators, and 4 or 5 of his assistants are all borderline underqualified for their positions. You can afford to have a couple, but not the majority of your staff.

Well, Frost has been fairly well traveled over the past 20 years, from Stanford to NU to the NFL and his various stops as he has risen the coaching ranks...I would bet he has some pretty good coaching connections all over the country. I'm not saying Frost is the solution at NU, but he probably has the capability to put together a pretty good staff if he had the opportunity to.

My only apprehension with hiring Frost is that if he doesn't do well, the AD will have to fire a native son and that can't ever be good for a program.

Based on how important the football program is, if Eichorst fires Bo, hires Frost, and it turns out to be a failure, there is probably a good chance that an interim AD will end up being the one firing the native son instead. There's a lot riding on what Eichorst decides to do.

I love the posts about Carl coming back to Lincoln. WTF? Bo better not be in Lincoln next year. Time to get back to the Husker way. The Pelini's just simply don't get that. SUPERBUNNY

Carl has previous head coaching experience AND ties to Nebraska. Those are pretty much the only qualifications. He's HC in Lincoln next year.

Well, I was about to put together a least of damning coaching scandals from the lame (O'Leary) to the serious (Woody Hayes) to the ungodly (Sandusky). I would have guessed that Carl would have been along the lines of Petrino or Mike Price.

If Taylor Martinez is out, our Freshman quarteback plays well, and our defense acheives some modest goals, like holding a few opponents to under 200 yards rushing, we can take two or three losses and Bo keeps his job. It needs to look like this team is fighting, and that something is improving. A bowl win would seal another year.

 

But the bigger issue is the bad mojo. Winning cures everything, but short of winning out this team needs to take the flavor of apathy and mediocrity out of everyone's mouth.

 

I don't thin Pelini can survive another outright embarrassment.

All of the above except for taking two or three losses. I think any more than one more loss is a tall order, but 7-5 under any circumstances might be too much to bear.

Are there rumors being thrown around that Carl was screwing around with his female Director of Football Operations?

 

http://espn.go.com/c...operations-role

WTF?!?! Carl Pelini overheard a cheerleading coach's phone conversation and simply decided to promote her to director of football operations?

Last year, we had to have several comebacks just to beat an inferior opponent. We need to stop playing down to other teams levels.

Recent and current trends indicate that it is no longer correct to refer to all of these mediocre-to-slightly above average teams as inferior. We are only superior to the Southern Misses and Purdues. There are enough of these lackluster performances that we can't call them anomalies anymore.

Reading TO's statement, everyone has gotten a bit short sighted.

 

Is this as bad as the Clownahan regime? I would think not. During his time here, he managed to smash records that had stood longer than many on this board had been alive. Are things bad, yeah, they're definitely not good, but no where near the level that Clownahan had lowered this program to...

 

....right, because the callahan era is the guage.

 

then you tell me, what is the gauge??

 

I don't have answers but I will say that once an argument for keeping a coach is based on "It's not as bad as the callahan era" then we have a problems.

That wouldn't be my point for keeping Pelini. In order for any possible next coach to better Pelini, he'd have to win the B10 title in his first season. Pelini has already won 9 games plus the division.

More discipline, better fundamentals, more leadership (from players and coaches), better focus and competitiveness thru 4 quarters week in and week out would be an encouraging improvement, even if it didn't immediately lead to a championship. Most of us are smart enough to see whether or not a product is improving without simply hanging it all on particular numbers of wins (assuming the number of wins doesn't take a nosedive in the process).

If you think top tier teams don't let down and let teams back into games they should win, or outright lose them, you must be watching a completely different college football season year in and year out than I am. I think what you meant to say was those teams generally have letdowns, not meltdowns. That we have meltdowns on a consistent basis is troubling.

I agree. One of the things that makes college football so interesting is the impact that emotion and the ability to maintain focus can have on any team at any time, and seeing how these kids can respond to it. What presidentjlh said above about some of our earlier losses being more acceptable because the team at least fought harder is spot on. With Nebraska these days, we don't see the occasional lapse of focus. We see it constantly, and the lack of discipline and energy has been a signature characteristic, along with having a fragile psyche. Teams often take on the traits of their head coach, which is how it appears here.

If we wanted to be a pathetic performing poor excuse of a program we could just move to Boulder, start smokin indo on the Pearl street mall and not give a sh#t what or how the team does. I'm not gonna apologize for not accepting mediocrity. f#*k that, participation ribbons are for pussies and losers.

On a related note, I heard that the blackshirts were removed from the players' lockers and replaced with participation ribbons.

And YOLO Strong bracelets.