And so it begins....

Can't wait for Mitch to cry "precedent" when a Democrat president declares a national emergency on things that are not a national emergency 

Just now, C N Red said:

I think if you are getting expelled from school and humiliated due to video floating around, the time to say it was actually an assault would have been then, not???

I can't argue with your logic.  But I've never been in that situation so i won't claim to know how someone should respond.

5 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

My point is simply if this is a federal offense to distribute this video and they are going to make an example of washington. Then they should take the time to prosecute the other 100 kids who distributed that video 3 years ago.

I won't argue with you on that.  But my concern is what happens to Washington

3 minutes ago, C N Red said:

If this is true, how can anyone say it was an assault??

She is saying that she was too ashamed to say it was assault in 2016

She is now in 2018-19 saying that it was

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

It also makes it curious why this case is making headlines today. The Revenge Porn law is five years old.  None of the case law here would be new.  The biggest difference would be if nobody else had sent that video to that girl in a taunting/demeaning fashion in the intervening years. I find that unlikely, and if that's the case, have those people been similarly prosecuted? If not, why not?

The case is making headlines today because Washington chose to not delete the video and then used it to harm the girl.  

3 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

Also if Washington is going to get charged with distributing child porn because he sent it to his ex. Then shouldnt every single kid 3 years ago who received that video on their phone and sent it to one of their friends also get charged? 

 

If your going to charge washington because he sent it to his ex. You need to charge every single kid in that high school that forwarded that video to someone.

I suppose they could.  They would have to track down every person that received it, see if they still have the phone that it was received on, and prove they sent it.

Unfortunately, Washington didn't delete the video and move on.  And that is who we are concerned with.

1 minute ago, Saunders said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the two boys in the video were never charged with assault, and that all three of them were expelled after the incident. Then, one of the boys was charged for distributing the video? It seems like it was never being view through the lens of sexual assault until after Washington was involved? So, does that mean they go back and prosecute the two boys now?

It wasn't being viewed as an assault in 2016 because the girl said she was ashamed

Fast forward to 2018 when she receives the video from Washington, she wants the record to show that it was non-consensual.  Or asasult

6 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

Take action against what?

Deleting inappropriate posts

3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

I feel like both parties should be treated equally.  The alleged victim could be right or making false accusations. The alleged victim deserves no special privileges, but does deserve a safe space to make their accusation.

 

In the same way, the alleged perpetrator deserves a safe space before all the facts are in. Personally, I don't think the accused should be named in rape cases until they go to trial.

Both parties should be treated equally.  But if someone claims assault, then the cops investigate an assault.  And then go where the evidence and facts lead them.  But in no way could a cop do their job effectively if they immediately didn't believe a claim.  They wouldn't put the effort into proving or disproving

13 hours ago, Stumpy1 said:

My thoughts exactly.  She is the one with the power in that situation. 

Here's another

13 hours ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I have heard the video is a 10 second clip of her giving some kid a BJ. It doesn’t seem assault like to me 

Here's one

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

So any person who makes an accusation is to be believed, period?  Because that's a really, really bad policy.

 

Should probably report those posts, then.

I think it is okay to believe a person when they claim something like this.  But then the FACTS need to be investigated to either prove or disprove.  

I figured with the number of Mods weighing in, one of them would have taken action.  Maybe they have.

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

Who's doing that?

go back a page or 2

2 minutes ago, knapplc said:

The horror is that they weren't listened to, or were shut down.

Interesting that there are some posters in here doing the same thing to the girl in this situation.  Some even suggesting that SHE was in control of the situation.

3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Whether this particular situation was assault or consensual, we all agree that our society needs to empower people to be able to speak up in case of assault or rape.

 

Re: Nassar - the horrifying thing is, they didn't wait to speak up.  Many girls spoke up immediately, and for years.  It's not that they didn't speak up, it's that they weren't listened to.  There is a LOT of blame in the Nassar situation. So many unnecessary victims.

I think you need to read up on Aly Raisman. They didn't ALL come forward immediately.

http://time.com/5020885/aly-raisman-sexual-abuse-usa-gymnastics-doctor-larry-nassar/

Unaware that she was being molested, and still believing she was receiving medical treatment that would help her, she attributed his behavior to his being tired or jetlagged from the trips to competitions around the world.

Now Raisman says she knows better. “I know people will say ‘Why didn’t she tell her mom? Why didn’t she say anything?’ But those questions are unfair,” she says. “The fact is I didn’t really know it was happening to me. What people don’t get is that he was a doctor. I would never have imagined that a doctor would abuse me or manipulate me so badly.”

After years of making excuses for what she calls Nassar’s “weird” behavior during the treatment sessions, in July 2015 — three years after winning three medals at her first Olympics — she says she finally realized that Nassar had been sexually abusing her. Raisman says she received a call from USA Gymnastics president Steve Penny, who asked her to speak to an investigator who would be coming to Raisman’s home. He wouldn’t tell her what the visit was about.

And there are more like that

9 minutes ago, Redux said:

This is going to sound incredibly heartless and I give this as a spontaneous opinion not knowing anything more than any of you.  But of course she now says it wasn't consensual.  We live in a society now that encourages the notion that if you do something and later on regret it, you can cry rape and get revenge.  Honestly I hope she is lying because even if you take Washington out of the picture, this is about to ruin a few kids lives if she is lying.  And I say I hope she is lying because I would rather the sex on film be consensual and regret driven than it actually being a rape video.  Neither are good by any means.

It's a normal reaction for people to think this way.  And I have no opinion one way or the other in this specific incident if she is truthful or not.  But we should always be reminded of the difficulty of coming forward for women in situations like this.  Look at how long Larry Nassar was allowed to prey on women before they began to speak up.

2 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

It honestly doesn't, at least in terms of Washington. 

It only matters because he was avoiding being interviewed so the police didn't know if he knew it was an assault.  That's why it matters at all. And also why they are not pursuing those charges on him now.

3 minutes ago, C N Red said:

Did i miss where she said it wasnt? I dont remember her saying that. And to be truthful, whats not to say her mom saw video, asked her what the hell, girl tells mom they forced her to make it look better. Theres so many possibilities with how this went down and it being years ago. I dont believe for a second the girl and kids around the school didnt know this video was out there. Stuff like that gets shared and talked about because humans as teens are especially idiotic.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/University-of-Nebraska-Football-Player-Maurice-Washington-Faces-Revenge-Porn-Child-Porn-Charges-Over-Video-of-Bay-Area-Teen-505666711.html?akmobile=o

"They’re driving this way, and I’m like, ‘Jack in the Box is back that way,’" Taylor said. "And I said that probably 30 times to them, and eventually they pulled over at this park, with houses on the left-hand side, and they’re like, ‘We’re going to have a threesome.’"

Taylor said she froze, terrified.

"That’s when they started to rape me, and while I was being raped, they took a video that I had no idea about."

Although she did not report the incident as a rape at the time because she says she felt ashamed, Taylor told NBC Bay Area the video depicts a sexual assault, not a consensual sex act. Taylor alleges the teen boys in the video forced her into having sex after telling her they were going to a fast food restaurant. 

2 minutes ago, C N Red said:

 

Whoa, im seeing a red flag with this guy Hedley. Pretty defensive. Better call Chris hansen.

Were the boys in the video under 18? If so they were all comitting assault against each other. How do you prosecute that? I really think it was a "consensual" thing that happened with underage kids and some idiot took video. 

All of the participants in the video were under 18.

The girl is saying it was not consensual.  You can choose to believe her or not.

1 hour ago, GSG said:

Fox News Bans Ad For Documentary About American Nazi Rally in 1939

 

 

Q & A with the Director

 

 

 

 

That is amazing 

What is also amazing is the HB editing of Alford E. Lucc$%k's name

L U C C O C K

I think the fact that the president, who is an elected official, can make these types of decisions is something that should be looked at with regards to reform.

Despite her being from my state, I have not read too much on her or know much about her.  Being she is a rep for a different district than mine.

But if anyone knows more, maybe they can help me out.

Is she anit-Jew as a whole or more anti-Israel and the current way they form their policies?  Meaning, I haven't read where she comes out against ALL Jewish people.  But she certainly have something against the way Israel is run.

Does that make sense what I'm asking?

21 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

 

I don't think the AD is lying about this. But I do think they purposely made sure they didn't know the details.

Are you good with that?

UNL’s original statement said that they were provided no details and there was no follow up by CA authorities.

That other link says the opposite.