BigRedBuster

Something I thought about while rewatching the game yesterday.

I have been frustrated that our D line doesn't get pressure on the QB. But, yesterday I began to wonder if pressure on the QB isn't a big priority in our defense. We go against so many teams where the QB takes three step drops and gets rid of the ball very fast. The D lineman literally would have to come off totally unblocked to be able to get to him in time to sack him most of the time.

SO, is it a situation where Bo has decided that covering the WRs and stopping the run is more of a priority than putting pressure on the QB?

Now, even saying that, if this is the case, it shows even more of a problem with our run defense.

As to the OP, I agree that keeping the other team from scoring is really the only thing that counts on D. I see some potential on this defense and think we can be pretty good by year end.

Who would you take touches away from?

Whoa Whoa....Whoa.....

I am in no way shape or form advocating changing our educational system to Chinas. You obviously missed this in my post.

Now, all that said, I am all for educating everyone. I think it is important to our country to educate everyone. BUT, I have a hard time stomaching trash talk about our educational system only to compare it to countries with totally different philosophies on who they are going to educate.

I actually believe we have a very good educational system and was defending it. What I am saying is that when comparing China to here is comparing apples to bananas. There is a completely different philosophy around what they try to accomplish.

NOW...what I DO believe we could do a better job of is advancing those top level students in an environment where they can be pushed to their limits. This is especially true in inner city schools where these types of kids are dealing with gang violence and very negative environments at school. BUT, that has to be done in a manner that is fair. NOT like it is done in China.

All politicians seek to play the 'politics game' whenever they can, to move the needle. Romney seized at this opportunity when he shouldn't have, because it was distasteful and very insensitive. And wrong. A terrible gaffe that reflects very poorly on the campaign he's running.

 

OK, are we all agreed? Can we then also agree that this really doesn't matter?

I think that it does matter. The character and tendencies of the man who would be president are always relevant.

 

We want our politicians to discuss the issues. But what incentive is given to them to talk about the issues, when plainly people would much rather chatter about the meaningless? Our interest in jumping on these things to tear down one candidate or another's character is precisely the reason why 'the game' is the focus of those campaigns.

Again, I don't think that it's meaningless.

 

 

But, yet you are NEVER willing to admit when your side does the same thing (as wrong as both sides are for doing it) (wish I had a rolling eyes emoticon).

this is not a sport. tit for tat does no good. plus, i am not entirely convinced carlfense has a 'side'.

I agree...that is why I condemn both.

Also, imagine how much more pressure would be at home if parents knew that little Johny has to pass an exam to get into HS otherwise little Johny is going to be shoved off into a vocational school. I guarantee you little Johny is going to come to school better prepared.

A number of years ago I was having to compete with Chinese products and also thinking about buying from a Chinese manufacturer so I did some reading and research on what makes them different than us. I read several books on the issue of education and industry in China that dealt with the issue.

I tried Googling the issue right now and within a short time I came up with a couple web sites that hint at what I'm talking about.

This web site appears to be from the University of Michigan.

http://sitemaker.umi...of_both_systems

One negative aspect of the Chinese education system is that high stakes testing in order to pass into the next grade results in many students left with no other choice but to drop out of the school system all together.

Now, let's say the US would implement a system where to pass into each grade you had to pass a very strict test and that caused many to drop out of school that didn't give a crap and wanted to cause problems more than learn. You don't think the ones that are left would get a better education?

http://www.edu.cn/20...3/3123354.shtml

Secondary education is divided into academic secondary education and specialized/vocational/technical secondary education.

Academic secondary education is delivered by academic lower and upper middle schools.

Lower middle school graduates wishing to continue their education take a locally administered entrance exam, on the basis of which they will have the option either of continuing in an academic upper middle school or of entering a vocational secondary school.

In other words, in Middle School, if you want to continue your education, you take an exam. If you score high enough on that exam, then you are allowed to go on and study stuff like science and math at a higher level.

Now, back to my original post, imagine taking all those resources and time the teachers and educational system spend on trying to educate and babysit kids who have no desire to be there and learn and put those into educating the best students we have....the sky is the limit. Heck, even the teacher's attitude changes.

All politicians seek to play the 'politics game' whenever they can, to move the needle. Romney seized at this opportunity when he shouldn't have, because it was distasteful and very insensitive. And wrong. A terrible gaffe that reflects very poorly on the campaign he's running.

 

OK, are we all agreed? Can we then also agree that this really doesn't matter?

I think that it does matter. The character and tendencies of the man who would be president are always relevant.

 

We want our politicians to discuss the issues. But what incentive is given to them to talk about the issues, when plainly people would much rather chatter about the meaningless? Our interest in jumping on these things to tear down one candidate or another's character is precisely the reason why 'the game' is the focus of those campaigns.

Again, I don't think that it's meaningless.

But, yet you are NEVER willing to admit when your side does the same thing (as wrong as both sides are for doing it) (wish I had a rolling eyes emoticon).

I'll tell you why I think that is.

 

In the US, we have a goal to educate all children. Now, this is going to sound cold hearted, but sometimes in this issue cold hard facts need to be looked at that way.

 

Heck, we even spend huge amounts of money keeping mentally challenged kids in class rooms where they have absolutely no chance of learning the subject.

 

Meanwhile, places like china only attempt to educate the top 10-15% of their population.

 

Now, let's imagine how our schools would be different if let's even take it to 50%. Let's say we are only going to have a goal of pushing the top 50% of our kids to advanced education say past 8th grade. Imagine the resources that can be pushed to them and how much more time the teachers could spend educating them and how much faster they could go through complicated subjects if they didn't have all the other kids who can't handle the subject OR (and this is a big one) are only there because they have to be there and cause problems.

 

Let's look at inner city schools with all the gang and crime problems. Imagine how those schools could be different if they could go in and cherry pick out of those cities the top 25-50% of the students that actually want to get an education.

 

Now, all that said, I am all for educating everyone. I think it is important to our country to educate everyone. BUT, I have a hard time stomaching trash talk about our educational system only to compare it to countries with totally different philosophies on who they are going to educate.

 

Also, you need to look at they type of education both counties push. China is very much a strict idea of the student must memorize XXXX down to the detail. Meanwhile, American education pushes more of critical thinking and problem solving.

 

I have read and heard many people in industry talk about how maybe someone out of China might know more about Chemistry but the American student is better at thinking through problems and critical thinking.

 

There is no way you really believe this.

What part?

I think it is safe to say at this point, UCLA could be really good and Nebraska only lost to them by 6....or.....they are an average team and Nebraska lost to them by 6.

It is going to be really interesting to see how the rest of the year plays out.

The question wasn't did the Dems claim Bush sympathized with the terrorists. (even though they did indirectly through Mikey Moore's movie during the campaign)

The question was about politicizing the efforts of the administration.

Also, the guy had two years of Democrat controlled congress. For how passionate he was about closing GITMO, he couldn't get it done in those two years with his own party in power?

He is dead on about that. I get so sick and tired of fans claiming that our standards at Nebraska have lowered. That is total BS.

I thought Whaley was considered to be a fast LB, actually.

At UCLA I didn't think it was speed that Whaley was lacking. He got to the QB a number of times fast enough only to totally whiff on the tackle.

@Sean_Callahan

Papuchis added NU has always lined up 6 inches off the ball, but they went to a foot because they thought it would help the DL read the gaps

 

I already posted this. It's shopped. zoogies posted video of that play and we're maybe a yard off the ball.

You mean someone faked it. No can't be.

I know it wasn't my wife that faked it.

I once had a science dream. Then I learned that academic scientists spend about 1% of their time actually doing science...at your typical university the rest is spent applying for grants (months-long processes often), teaching menial introductory classes to brainless kids who will probably drop out anyway, supervising grad students, undergrads, and post-docs, going to a constant flow of faculty and staff meetings, seminars, traveling around to go to more meetings and seminars, and then finally working towards an end goal not of a big discovery, but simply of getting published. Enormous pressure on your entire professional life not to discover something, but to get the most articles published in the most prestigious journals. It's all about getting published at any cost. Not to mention that I've heard so much about the shady practices employed by other scientists - fudging results, getting inside connections with people responsible for determining what articles get published in the major journals and other stupid political bullsh#t.

 

Given all of that, I don't find it surprising at all that science lags behind in this country.

 

What???

I find it interesting that people from other countries come to our universities to become educated in these things and we are behind? Our country has developed a very large number of the amazing technologies we have today and we are behind?

 

Also, silly me, I always thought professors at universities were there to teach kids out of HS, grad assistants and post doc students.

You are aware that a great number of these 'amazing technologies' were not US creations? South Korea and Japan crate a lot of these nifty items. Both, coincidentally focus massively on their education systems. Unlike the US, where that always seems to be the first place to make budget cuts.

 

The math and science knowledge in this country is flat out pathetic when compared to the rest of the 1st world. Businesses are pretty open about the need for a number of professions that we do not generate enough grads in. In large part because our primary and secondary education systems in this country are just about flat broken. Kids don't prepared for it right, or at all. Just browse around this forum, or the internet in general and see all the stupidity that people think is fact, that a grade school science book would prove wrong.

 

Compare it this way. If a kid coming out of high school is really out of shape, can't run fast, and knows very little about football, is he going to get scholarship offers? Not a chance, Its similar to any other field.

I'll tell you why I think that is.

In the US, we have a goal to educate all children. Now, this is going to sound cold hearted, but sometimes in this issue cold hard facts need to be looked at that way.

Heck, we even spend huge amounts of money keeping mentally challenged kids in class rooms where they have absolutely no chance of learning the subject.

Meanwhile, places like china only attempt to educate the top 10-15% of their population.

Now, let's imagine how our schools would be different if let's even take it to 50%. Let's say we are only going to have a goal of pushing the top 50% of our kids to advanced education say past 8th grade. Imagine the resources that can be pushed to them and how much more time the teachers could spend educating them and how much faster they could go through complicated subjects if they didn't have all the other kids who can't handle the subject OR (and this is a big one) are only there because they have to be there and cause problems.

Let's look at inner city schools with all the gang and crime problems. Imagine how those schools could be different if they could go in and cherry pick out of those cities the top 25-50% of the students that actually want to get an education.

Now, all that said, I am all for educating everyone. I think it is important to our country to educate everyone. BUT, I have a hard time stomaching trash talk about our educational system only to compare it to countries with totally different philosophies on who they are going to educate.

Also, you need to look at they type of education both counties push. China is very much a strict idea of the student must memorize XXXX down to the detail. Meanwhile, American education pushes more of critical thinking and problem solving.

I have read and heard many people in industry talk about how maybe someone out of China might know more about Chemistry but the American student is better at thinking through problems and critical thinking.

I really wish we would go to a 3-4 or 4-3 with zone blitzes. I think it would help our pass rush if the O linemen and QB don't know who is coming.

One example is the entire WMD issue.

Now, we can sit here and talk about if we should have gone into Iraq or not and hind site...I may very well agree with you.

However, before we went in, absolutely every Democrat in power and every intelligence agency around the world was claiming they had WMDs. Clinton, Gore....everyone...said they had them. Heck, France, Germany and Russia actually even said they had them.

What happened when they weren't found? All the Dems turned around and acted like they never said they had them. Meanwhile, there are quotes from them exactly saying that. They made it political. The way it should have been handled is to say WE were wrong and then discuss making sure it doesn't happen again and how to exit Iraq. BUT, the Dems turned it around and acted like they had nothing to do with it.

Another one is the prison camp in Cuba. Gee.....when did Obama say he was going to have that closed down? Here we have people that we captured on the battle field. The Dems making it political supports the enemy. Sorry if you probably don't agree with that but don't you think that all those quotes from the campaign about how horrible it is that we have Gitmo made it into enemy ears? NOW...if you really think it is that horrible, then when you get into office close the friggen thing down. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!

Obviously Obama all of a sudden doesn't think it's all that horrible. No...he used it politically against the Republicans for his own quest for the office and doesn't do anything about it after the fact.

Before I read your last paragraph I was thinking along the same lines as you. I don't think we lose to all of them. I think we win two and if the football Gods shine down on us after this loss and our D starts playing better, we still have the chance to win all three.

OH good friggen Lord....

 

When Bush was in office and we had troops on the ground in two different countries, the Dems politicized every move that was made to the max. It was happening the minute we started the fight after 9/11.

 

Now, I agree we need to rally around the flag and support our efforts here. But, Dems acting all pompous on this issue about makes me puke.

 

Was that initially, or after the gross mismanagement became apparent?

There was some that was instant. Other stuff that the Dems used politically that was disgusting.

But, then I also remember that those big donors are the ones that are funding the program I love.

 

True. But what about the $15000+/year all them students spend there. Not to mention tax revenue for the city and such for living there. I know donors put out a lot, but I would like to know they do it for the sake of it, not just to get something in return to say "look at me"

And, those students are the future donors. They need to be where we sat when I went to school. Between the 40s.

But, then I also remember that those big donors are the ones that are funding the program I love.

It probably sounds like I'm siding with the University on this. I'm not. It would be nice if your friend still had his spot. There are lots of examples on game day where money talks. Not trying to take this in a different direction but it still pisses me off that the student section has been moved to some of the worst seats in the house simply because donors wanted their seats. Just another example.

I understand. There are always handicapped situations where it is necessary for the person not have to travel very far. An elderly person with a walker is an example.

However, I always think back to my college days when I had a friend in a chair. On Friday and Saturday nights, we would walk down town so that we wouldn't have to drive home. We would park at his house and he lived probably 6-8 blocks from down town.

Now, if he could make it home 6-8 blocks slobbering drunk from the bars, does the same type of handicapped person need special parking to get somewhere instead of having to go just a little farther? I know he would say the same thing because I have had the same conversation with him. Now, before everyone claims I'm an ass, I understand handicapped parking is more than just closer. It gives him more room to access his chair...etc. But, I'm just talking distance.

This situation with your friend almost sounds like maybe even someone at the university didn't know it was for a handicapped person.

First of all, I am all for making access for handicapped people as easy as possible. However, if everyone else is paying $15 to park there, then why shouldn't he need to? It doesn't matter if he is going to the game or not. All the parking on Saturday in that area is changed due to the game.

This isn't just centered around Morrill Hall. UNL has made some decisions on tailgating in the north lot that affects a friend of mine. A big-money donor with perfectly healthy legs has taken over a tailgate spot that friends of the family have used for years. The spot's former owner doesn't have use of his legs.

 

I get that money greases the wheel at UNL. But that spot doesn't need to go to some guy because he's famous and has loads of cash. He can tailgate 30 feet further down the road and walk to the game. My friend can't walk to the game - he has to us a chair.

Knapp....

I'm not trying to be an ass because it's obvious that the big donor could walk an extra 30 feet. However, if your friend is in a wheel chair, can't he also roll an extra 30 feet?

I once had a science dream. Then I learned that academic scientists spend about 1% of their time actually doing science...at your typical university the rest is spent applying for grants (months-long processes often), teaching menial introductory classes to brainless kids who will probably drop out anyway, supervising grad students, undergrads, and post-docs, going to a constant flow of faculty and staff meetings, seminars, traveling around to go to more meetings and seminars, and then finally working towards an end goal not of a big discovery, but simply of getting published. Enormous pressure on your entire professional life not to discover something, but to get the most articles published in the most prestigious journals. It's all about getting published at any cost. Not to mention that I've heard so much about the shady practices employed by other scientists - fudging results, getting inside connections with people responsible for determining what articles get published in the major journals and other stupid political bullsh#t.

 

Given all of that, I don't find it surprising at all that science lags behind in this country.

What???

I find it interesting that people from other countries come to our universities to become educated in these things and we are behind? Our country has developed a very large number of the amazing technologies we have today and we are behind?

Also, silly me, I always thought professors at universities were there to teach kids out of HS, grad assistants and post doc students.

There's no denying the Democrats' tactics were pretty low-class during the Bush era. I was not a fan of the Dem party at that time, just as I am disgusted by the Republican party at this time. Politics. It's teh suck.

 

But, there's a way out. Instead of choosing to perpetuate this cycle - "I'm going to dismiss this current outrage because YOU GUYZ also were classless back in the day", we can choose to divest ourselves from party allegiances entirely.

I'm disgusted with both.