Fru

18 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

Yep - a president become DeFacto king, ruler for life if he so desire.   I wish that escalator had swallowed him up in 2015.  A decade of chaos because of one bad man. 

ONE bad man? Dude. C’mon.

21 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

It should never have gotten this far

In 8 years he went from C list celebrity/tv game show host to having his lawyers arguing in front of the Supreme Court that coups and assassinations should be legal. 
 

I’ll never fully understand it. Nor will I ever fully understand how the power brokers of the party haven’t stepped in yet to say “enough is enough.”

13 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Maybe not violent. But they support violence. 
 

I would love to know who is behind this. It’s been pointed out on line that they all have new tents, the same kind, same color….etc. 

 

Theres more to this than what we know. 
 

 

Maybe it’s been mentioned here before and I just missed it, but I’ve seen this mentioned a few times on Reddit.

Seems middle eastern countries have a penchant for “donating” billions to US universities. 

 https://www.thefp.com/p/campus-rage-middle-eastern-roots-qatar

• From 2015–2020, institutions that accepted money from Middle Eastern donors had, on average, 300 percent more antisemitic incidents than those institutions that did not. 
  

• From 2015–2020, institutions that accepted undisclosed funds from authoritarian donors had, on average, 250 percent more antisemitic incidents than those institutions that did not.

• At least 200 American colleges and universities illegally withheld information on approximately $13 billion in undocumented contributions from foreign regimes, many of which are authoritarian. 

6 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Then why ask the question about a tabloid rag when the known media bias is in reference to traditional mainstream media outlets?  

That tabloid rag seemed important to Trump. 
 

Known media bias? Like Fox News paying over $700m to settle a lawsuit because of their election lies? That kind of bias?

7 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Are you equating the National Enquirer to the NYT or WAPO?  That’s pretty telling right there

No I never made that comparison. 

16 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Is this an example of the “media bias” R’s are endlessly crying about? 

8 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Interesting and probably pretty accurate!

 

My TikTok is all cooking videos and I have not really seen Pro-Pally stuff on MY TikTok but I supposed once you see one and watch it all the way through or "like" it, the algorithm is going to show you more and more. 

Precisely. Doesn’t take much for the algorithm to kick in and put you in an endless echo chamber. 

13 minutes ago, ZRod said:

If I had to guess, the same place the nutjob Biden didn't win protests came from. The Kremlin.

TikTok has proven to be a driving force for Gen Z’s Pro Pal stances. Who runs TikTok? Who would want to sow discord amongst Dems and prevent American youth from turning out for Biden? Who would benefit from global sentiment turning against Israel?

It’s pretty easy to draw conclusions about how China, Iran and Russia can influence folks here. We can pretend it’s only Boomers and Facebook memes, but the reality is the reach is far easier and more impactful than we realize. Propaganda works. 

Imagine thinking this is comparable to the 1960’s Civil Rights protests. 

9 minutes ago, teachercd said:

This was a trump supporter?

 

Last person we saw do this was a Pro-Pally Bro.

Take it fwiw, but I’ve seen in Reddit threads that the pamphlets he threw in the air were about some conspiracy where Trump and Biden were working together on a coup. 

45 minutes ago, ZRod said:

Who says they didn't have concerns before? There have been many articles over the years about Google employees voicing concerns on various issues. The latest I can think of is how incognito mode isn't really anonymous.

I’m sure some did. Google is a big company. I couldn’t find any info about them thinking it was serious enough for them to protest over it. All I could find was this.  

https://nypost.com/2022/10/17/google-workers-joke-that-incognito-mode-is-not-truly-private/
 

1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:

Yep.  You have the right to protest.  That doesn't mean there's not consequences with that.

Their selective outrage is also pretty telling. Google has been up to plenty of nefarious things over the decades which they apparently didn’t seem to mind. 
 

For bar scene, O St is generally a college aged crowd. It can be fun if that’s what you want, but I’d say stick to the Haymarket area. Leadbelly’s and Lazlo’s are probably my favorite restaurants down there. For Haymarket bars I’d recommend N Zone, Tavern on the Square, McKinney’s, Kinkaider Brewery and Bierhaus Maisschaler. The Railyard with Gate 25 and Longwell’s is a popular spot too. There’s also a cool vintage clothing store in the Haymarket called “Great Plains Vintage.” They have plenty of Husker stuff but have all kinds of other pro and college team stuff too. 
 

For tailgating there’s places all over. If you’re in the Haymarket area you can easily access a bunch in the parking lots behind Pinnacle Bank Arena and into the Baseball/Softball stadiums. Roam around and mix it up with locals. Let em know you’re from out of town and it’s your first Neb game. You’ll get plenty of folks offering food and drinks. 

For the Game, I’d say avoid South Stadium if you can. It’s not bad, I just think other parts of the stadium are more user friendly. I’m partial to sitting in North Stadium. Since it sounds like you just generally appreciate college football, I’d say get to your seats early enough to catch the pregame stuff with the band and so you can see the tunnel walk. 

13 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Sorry man, but there are nothing but common threads in this kind of activism and protest. That it hasn't yet reached the scale of Vietnam and the Civil Right movement doesn't change the motives, the players, and the public reaction. You don't have to like it. Folks back then didn't either. But it's entirely possible they've shaped the conversation. 

 

 

Sorry man, but there’s not. Simping for a terrorist organization that wants to eradicate all Jews and infidels from Earth isn’t the same as a lunch counter sit in from the 60’s. Shaping the conversation with slanted views and deliberately misleading social media propaganda isn’t terribly helpful. 
 

13 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

While you contend they are "shrieking about a ceasefire" they've been joined by politicians of every stripe and nation, who agree it's a more than viable option for stopping the death and starvation of innocents on a massive scale that Hamas clearly anticipated. And possibly avoiding a global escalation. The conversation has changed significantly in six months, and a lot of that wacky left stuff has gone mainstream. 

 

Of course politicians with no true skin in the game or consequences can make empty requests for a ceasefire. Has any of it worked? Is it a good faith effort or is it empty political posturing? Do they really think there’ll be one or are they just getting a sound bite on record? Did Hamas see San Francisco’s City Council resolution for a ceasefire and say to themselves “Guys, this is what we’ve been waiting for. After millenia of fighting and killing, some nameless faceless politicians from thousands of miles away says we should stop.”
 

Hamas has repeatedly said they’ll never stop committing Oct 7th’s. How can anyone think a ceasefire is a reasonable request when that is one side of the bargaining table? It’s a lazy and unserious position.
 

13 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

I don't agree with coddled self-satisfied cosplaying college protestors on plenty of things, and I go out of my way to de-romanticize their melodrama. But I do have to bring my A-game because they actually are well-versed on the history of the region. More than most. Forced to do my homework, I realized how much s#!t I'd forgotten. Or had wrong. And yeah, they didn't hesitate to bring up Yemen, either. I implore them to understand that the difference between Biden and Trump remains just massive enough to deserve their vote. It's a tough sell. 

 

Seems to me they actually do care about the Gazans, but your mileage may vary. If you think a cease fire isn't even viable, there's nowhere to go but down. 

I disagree. 

If they don’t know the difference or need it painstakingly explained to them, then that tells me all I need to know about their position and that they aren’t serious people.

Ultimately I think we can just agree to disagree on this. 

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Ugggg, great.  Your post @Fru is going to somehow get ME a lecture about how I need to embrace the Pro-Pally Bros! and how they are changing the world!

 

 

I kid, I kid

Ha I’m sure I’ll get the same lecture.

46 minutes ago, teachercd said:

 

I totally agree with you that these kinds of protests do not help in the way they hope it helps/ 

I don’t think many of the Pro Pal protestors even have or want an end goal or solution. They shriek about a “ceasefire” as if a ceasefire with a terrorist organization is even some kind of viable option. In fact, the more I hear from them, the more I’m convinced that they just want something to be mad at Joe Biden about. Their stances seem to be largely based off social media posts with disingenuous rhetoric and a fundamental lack of understanding about the historical events that have led up to the situation today.
 

They don’t really care about Gazans. If they did, they wouldn’t gleefully gloat “Enjoy Trump, because we aren’t voting for Biden.” They don’t really care about the US selling weapons to other countries. I’m yet to hear a peep from them about the 400k people in Yemen that were killed by weapons the US sold to Saudi Arabia. 

Folks can pretend that it’s some kind of romanticized tradition of youths cheering for the underdog akin to voting rights or not wanting to be sent off to die in war all they want. It simply isn’t even close to being in the same stratosphere. 

51 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Sure. But that's the case with most social movements, including Civil Rights and Vietnam. The original message was also considered extreme, naive, and/or unrealistic until it started getting echoed by more establishment sources. People block traffic and bridges and take over lunch counters insisting their cause can't be ignored. Because, in truth, it's pretty easy to ignore. People still mock the protestors, but chances are they are now using language the protestors introduced to the Gaza debate.    

 

I have to use the Golden Gate Bridge Wednesday.  Let's see if I remain forgiving. 

American teenagers protesting for their right to vote or to not be drafted into war is hardly comparable to today’s youth protesting in support of Hamas/Palestine. I’m failing to see any parallels. 
 

26 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Again, while everyone hates their methods, their key messages have been gaining a lot of support from mainstream sources. It happens without you even noticing. 

I would argue that selective and curated social media content is far more responsible for their “message” gaining support than these kinds of protests. 

10 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Jerry is betting on trump winning the election.  

 

Not a bet I would make with 25,000.  

 

 

Agreed. I wouldn’t make that bet with Monopoly Money.

Regarding the DJT stock convo from earlier. 
 

https://www.salon.com/2024/04/15/every-time-i-buy-more-the-price-drops-more-supporters-grapple-with-truth-social-losses/?in_brief=true
 

“One of the investors, Jerry Dean McLain, bought up hundreds of shares collectively worth $25,000. In the last two weeks, he's lost half of that money. But he is putting his trust in Trump. “I know good and well it’s in Trump’s hands, and he’s got plans,” he said. “I have no doubt it’s going to explode sometime.””

29 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

I agree with the hunger on both sides.  

Regarding the bold:  I can't help but think that in some of those document boxes illegally taken by Trump and stored in his bathroom is incrimination files on major movers and shakers in the GOP.  Why do people like Cruz, Rubio, Graham and so many others fall like a house of cards from their previous anti-trump position and are now cult members without Trump having info on them that they don't want out?  Maybe they just want power and have no values - very likely but I don't think that explains it all.  

I wouldn’t put it past him. The infamous Anthony Kennedy video comes to mind. But I think it’s far more likely that Cruz, Rubio, Graham etc are just feckless cowards. 

48 minutes ago, funhusker said:

I would hope that a Trump defeat in November would allow these idiots to take of the chains.  But sadly I think Trump will be so bitter that he will hold his base as hostages and basically govern the GOP by telling his followers who to vote for...

I used to think that the power brokers of the party would eventually get burned out from Trump and decide to move on.
 

Given the losses in the ‘18 Midterms, the ‘20 General and the massive underperforming in ‘22 Midterms, the endless indictments, charges, lawsuits, installing his daughter in law to drain RNC funds, and the overall endless chaos he brings… and there's barely a whisper of moving on from him. I don’t think they ever will now. Which doesn’t make sense to me from a strategical perspective. If you had that kind of candidate on paper without a name, no political entity would touch them. 
 

And to the people who say “Oh but his base is so fanatical, the R’s can’t lose his base.” Yes. They are fanatical, but they’ve clearly not given the party a boost in power. They’ve either lost or underperformed in every election cycle. 

There’s a palpable hunger in this country, on both sides of the aisle, for someone new, different and young. I think this hunger far outweighs the MAGA base. I’ll never understand why the R’s can’t recognize this and move on. 

35 minutes ago, Mike Mcdee said:

For those of you with trading accounts, is there a way to short this stock? It feels like this will dip below $10.

Yes. Robinhood would probably be the easiest way to do it. Thing is everyone is expecting it to tank so the Put Options on it are all fairly expensive. At least that’s what the consensus seems to be online. 
 

After a quick glance, a $35 put option expiring In September, with a break even price of $9 would cost you $350, with a total max profit of $900. Per Robinhood, this has a 40% chance of profit. 
 

To me, betting $350 to win a max of $900 isn’t worth it. 
 

Edit:

So just for comparison sake, I looked at the options for the SPY ETF. A $35 Put Option on SPY, expiring in September would cost $350 with a break even price of of $431 would give you a max profit of $43k. Per Robinhood, this has a $10% chance of profit. 

16 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Huh, interesting. You just described the exact same thing that I and millions of others experienced with evangelicalism  

It also reads like a perfect description of MAGA voters.