Fru

2 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Ugggg, great.  Your post @Fru is going to somehow get ME a lecture about how I need to embrace the Pro-Pally Bros! and how they are changing the world!

 

 

I kid, I kid

Ha I’m sure I’ll get the same lecture.

46 minutes ago, teachercd said:

 

I totally agree with you that these kinds of protests do not help in the way they hope it helps/ 

I don’t think many of the Pro Pal protestors even have or want an end goal or solution. They shriek about a “ceasefire” as if a ceasefire with a terrorist organization is even some kind of viable option. In fact, the more I hear from them, the more I’m convinced that they just want something to be mad at Joe Biden about. Their stances seem to be largely based off social media posts with disingenuous rhetoric and a fundamental lack of understanding about the historical events that have led up to the situation today.
 

They don’t really care about Gazans. If they did, they wouldn’t gleefully gloat “Enjoy Trump, because we aren’t voting for Biden.” They don’t really care about the US selling weapons to other countries. I’m yet to hear a peep from them about the 400k people in Yemen that were killed by weapons the US sold to Saudi Arabia. 

Folks can pretend that it’s some kind of romanticized tradition of youths cheering for the underdog akin to voting rights or not wanting to be sent off to die in war all they want. It simply isn’t even close to being in the same stratosphere. 

51 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Sure. But that's the case with most social movements, including Civil Rights and Vietnam. The original message was also considered extreme, naive, and/or unrealistic until it started getting echoed by more establishment sources. People block traffic and bridges and take over lunch counters insisting their cause can't be ignored. Because, in truth, it's pretty easy to ignore. People still mock the protestors, but chances are they are now using language the protestors introduced to the Gaza debate.    

 

I have to use the Golden Gate Bridge Wednesday.  Let's see if I remain forgiving. 

American teenagers protesting for their right to vote or to not be drafted into war is hardly comparable to today’s youth protesting in support of Hamas/Palestine. I’m failing to see any parallels. 
 

26 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Again, while everyone hates their methods, their key messages have been gaining a lot of support from mainstream sources. It happens without you even noticing. 

I would argue that selective and curated social media content is far more responsible for their “message” gaining support than these kinds of protests. 

10 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Jerry is betting on trump winning the election.  

 

Not a bet I would make with 25,000.  

 

 

Agreed. I wouldn’t make that bet with Monopoly Money.

Regarding the DJT stock convo from earlier. 
 

https://www.salon.com/2024/04/15/every-time-i-buy-more-the-price-drops-more-supporters-grapple-with-truth-social-losses/?in_brief=true
 

“One of the investors, Jerry Dean McLain, bought up hundreds of shares collectively worth $25,000. In the last two weeks, he's lost half of that money. But he is putting his trust in Trump. “I know good and well it’s in Trump’s hands, and he’s got plans,” he said. “I have no doubt it’s going to explode sometime.””

29 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

I agree with the hunger on both sides.  

Regarding the bold:  I can't help but think that in some of those document boxes illegally taken by Trump and stored in his bathroom is incrimination files on major movers and shakers in the GOP.  Why do people like Cruz, Rubio, Graham and so many others fall like a house of cards from their previous anti-trump position and are now cult members without Trump having info on them that they don't want out?  Maybe they just want power and have no values - very likely but I don't think that explains it all.  

I wouldn’t put it past him. The infamous Anthony Kennedy video comes to mind. But I think it’s far more likely that Cruz, Rubio, Graham etc are just feckless cowards. 

48 minutes ago, funhusker said:

I would hope that a Trump defeat in November would allow these idiots to take of the chains.  But sadly I think Trump will be so bitter that he will hold his base as hostages and basically govern the GOP by telling his followers who to vote for...

I used to think that the power brokers of the party would eventually get burned out from Trump and decide to move on.
 

Given the losses in the ‘18 Midterms, the ‘20 General and the massive underperforming in ‘22 Midterms, the endless indictments, charges, lawsuits, installing his daughter in law to drain RNC funds, and the overall endless chaos he brings… and there's barely a whisper of moving on from him. I don’t think they ever will now. Which doesn’t make sense to me from a strategical perspective. If you had that kind of candidate on paper without a name, no political entity would touch them. 
 

And to the people who say “Oh but his base is so fanatical, the R’s can’t lose his base.” Yes. They are fanatical, but they’ve clearly not given the party a boost in power. They’ve either lost or underperformed in every election cycle. 

There’s a palpable hunger in this country, on both sides of the aisle, for someone new, different and young. I think this hunger far outweighs the MAGA base. I’ll never understand why the R’s can’t recognize this and move on. 

35 minutes ago, Mike Mcdee said:

For those of you with trading accounts, is there a way to short this stock? It feels like this will dip below $10.

Yes. Robinhood would probably be the easiest way to do it. Thing is everyone is expecting it to tank so the Put Options on it are all fairly expensive. At least that’s what the consensus seems to be online. 
 

After a quick glance, a $35 put option expiring In September, with a break even price of $9 would cost you $350, with a total max profit of $900. Per Robinhood, this has a 40% chance of profit. 
 

To me, betting $350 to win a max of $900 isn’t worth it. 
 

Edit:

So just for comparison sake, I looked at the options for the SPY ETF. A $35 Put Option on SPY, expiring in September would cost $350 with a break even price of of $431 would give you a max profit of $43k. Per Robinhood, this has a $10% chance of profit. 

16 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Huh, interesting. You just described the exact same thing that I and millions of others experienced with evangelicalism  

It also reads like a perfect description of MAGA voters. 

Just please get bowl eligible in this time frame. 

Not as a coach, but…

6 hours ago, teachercd said:

Impossible!  People do not change their minds!

 

I kid, I kid.

Yes, my entire post is about people changing their minds/voting a different way. I’m confused as to why you think I implied something different?

1 hour ago, Crusader Husker said:

There was a great article I read afterwards in I think the Atlantic that summoned it up several things.  Hillary lost the union vote in the rust belt.  (Joe mostly won that back in 2020)

 

She ignored places Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio.  In Ohio she was almost a double digit favorite according to the Dem polls in Ohio.  I watched the live feed at Dem headquarters the night of the vote in 2016.  

 

Some Dems, hated HRC.  My sister is a hard core Dem.  She voted Trump.  (I am sworn to secrecy on that in the family)  

 

All the rest of the things you are all saying played part in it too.

Yes I would argue the rust belt “Protest Voters” had a pretty significant impact in 2016 as well.

2012 Wisconsin: 1,620,985 votes for Obama Biden and 1,407,966 votes for Romney Ryan and approximately 40k votes for “other” candidates. Dems margin of victory is 213k Dems win handily if all protest voters had voted R. 

2016 Wisconsin: 1,405,284 votes for Trump Pence and 1,382,536 votes for Clinton Kaine and well over 150k votes going to “other” candidates. Reps margin of victory is 23k votes (with a worse R turnout than 2012), easily defeated if a fifth of the protest voters vote D. 

2012 Michigan: 2,564,569 votes for Obama Biden and 2,115,256 votes for Romney Ryan with approximately 50k votes for “other” candidates. Dems margin of victory is 400k and win handily if all 50k protest votes had gone R instead. 

2016 Michigan: 2,279,543 votes for Trump Pence and 2,268,839 votes for Clinton Kaine and approximately 250k votes for “other” candidates. Reps margin of victory is 11k with 250k protest votes. R’s are easily defeated if a tenth of protest voters vote D.

2012 Pennsylvania: 2,990,274 votes for Obama Biden and 2,680,434 votes for Romney Ryan with approximately 80k votes for “other” candidates. Dems margin of victory is 310k votes, and win handily if all protest voters had voted R. 

2016 Pennsylvania: 2,970,733 votes for Trump Pence and 2,926,441 votes for Clinton Kaine with nearly 250k votes for “other” candidates. R margin of victory is 44k votes and are defeated if a fifth of the protest voters had voted D. 

46 Electoral Votes between these three states, enough to swing the election, decided by approximately 80k votes with 650k votes going to candidates with no possible shot at winning. 

Feels kinda similar to the last handful of years where anything between 3-9 and 9-3 seems pretty plausible. 
 

Just find a way to 7 to secure a bowl and winning record and find a way to win at least one of the final 5. 

2 hours ago, Crusader Husker said:

Outside of Bo, how many Husker coaches have had a public display of being a complete Jackwagon?

Good question. Trying to think back across all sports. I remember Callahan’s throat slash gesture got some scrutiny. Frost had a couple icy/childish moments, but nothing too crazy. But really aside from Bo I can’t think of anything major. 

1 hour ago, JoeHuskers! said:

What if..... Bo was hired as the HC after his interim HC bowl win in 2003?

This is an excellent one. I’ve often thought about how things would’ve gone if Bo had gotten it in 2003. In some ways it’s kind of amazing it didn’t happen.

So Steve fires Frank with allegedly an NFL head coach waiting in the wings. I believe this was alluded to by Harvey Perlman in an article a while back, he claimed it was going to be a “wow” hire. I think in a later article it was said to be Mike Sherman who was with Green Bay at the time. Obviously doesn’t happen. 
 

So Steve is getting turned down left and right. Zimmer. Houston Nutt. Etc. I believe the search took over 40 days. He clearly had no plan and was caught completely flat footed. Steve had to have known this coaching search was becoming a disaster. He had to have known he made multiple critical mistakes. And the whole time he’s got a young, hot shot, fan favorite, D Coordinator that took over as interim and led the team to an inspired bowl win. Talk about an escape route. 
 

Why wouldn’t Pederson just hire Bo? He could’ve sold it pretty easily. A young NFL defensive assistant, comes to Neb as a savior DC, takes over the head job and becomes the face of Neb’s future. 

If Bo got the job I think he probably keeps most of the staff in place. Recruiting probably doesn’t drop off much, if at all, possibly even improving a bit under the new energy from the Bo hire.

At worst they probably hover in that 7-5ish range with Bo never fully able to get over the hump. At best they could have very well made the 2005 or 2006 B12 Title Game, maybe even have won it in 2006 since OU was pretty pedestrian that year. Bo probably gets poached or given an extension and stays thru the B1G conference change and leaves some time around 2016, give or take. 

Rolling into next season with two true freshman and HH for QB scares me a bit. Kinda hope they get a portal guy post spring. Doesn’t have to be a world beater, just a guy for depth. 

53 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

Also, they never played the last two seconds of the Rose Bowl.  WSU should have had one throw into the end zone.

Absolute hose job at the end of the game with that spike. Don’t know why that never gets much attention.
 

57 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

It is hard for me to rationally think that 97 Michigan beats 97 Nebraska. 

 

I always go to Peyton Manning vs. Ryan Leaf.

 

The Huskers dominated Tennessee.

 

Michigan was behind going into the 4th quarter.

 

Michigan people see it as a nod to Osborne, I see it as also a nod to the better team.

 

Here are the stats of that RoseBowl.

 

Manning - Leaf is the obvious comparison. But that Tennessee team was stacked. Manning, Jamal Lewis, Peerless Price, Marcus Nash, Cedric Wilson, Shaun Ellis, Terry Fair, Leonard Little. 
 

A 5 point win over a team whose best player was one of the biggest NFL busts of all time… Or an absolute beatdown of a team stacked with NFL talent, draft picks and one of the best QB’s to ever play the game. It’s not close. 

I’ve never understood why the Minnesota comparison is so prevalent when discussing Neb’s modern day struggles. Acting like a program whose dominant era predated integration and any resemblance of the modern day game is somehow comparable to the what cfb has been for the last 40-50 years makes absolutely no sense to me. 

Some food for thought. From 1962 to 2003, Neb didn’t have a losing season. One .500 season in there, but never a losing season. No program can say that, let alone any of the 7 other blue blood programs. 
 

I also think the “Neb has been bad for 20 years” trope is largely overstated. Yes, we took a step back. But I ran the numbers in another thread a while back and from 2003-2016, Neb kept pace with most of our B1G peers for wins, losses, bowl games and top 25 finishes. The lion share of our “terrible” 20 year stretch is mostly indistinguishable from the likes of Iowa, Penn St and Michigan.

It’s obviously been historically bad since 2017. But Blue blood status doesn’t just go away because of a couple bad coaching hires and a bad 7 year stretch.

4 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

Neither has taken a snap.  Ratings are hardly concrete.

 

I was wondering if @Fru meant NU could potentially have to face DK.  That's the way I read it.

 

Certainly a possibility, but I was thinking more along the lines of chasing off our solid QB commit because a high profile QB flirted with us and we end up with neither. 
 

The Dylan news is certainly exciting and it’s fun to speculate. But it is not a done deal. This can go sideways quickly. 

1 minute ago, Husker in WI said:

How is trading the ~#28th ranked QB for the 1st/2nd ranked one "blowing up in our face?"

We lose Kaelin. Dylan stays with Georgia. 

48 minutes ago, GSG said:

Kaelin visiting Michigan St this weekend per 247

Ah, so this is how it blows up in our face.