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1 hour ago, Scofrosghost said:
Agreed. Maybe Lacy knows something we don’t about a coaching change with the offense. Ha, kidding
I thought under Pelini there was a guy or two that decommitted and ended up signing with us on signing day anyway. Can't remember who and don't care to take the time to figure it out, but I sort of remember something like that happening.
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4 hours ago, gobiggergoredder said:
The elephant in the room about the Minnesota game is they are not even in that game without Sims running ability.
I still think the only way this team wins another game is with Sims at QB. While not turning the ball over. Not good odds.
IMO, Sims running ability isn't any more impressive than healthy Haarbergs running ability. Sims is a much greater liability when it comes to ball security. If we turn the ball over one less time, we win that game. Logically we win the game with Haarberg at QB.
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4 hours ago, lo country said:
Casey Thompson had NFL WR Trey Palmer to throw to. Palmer would hep any QB look good. Thompson couldn't run to save his life.
In his only 3 games at FAU he threw 5 INT's...Take out Monmouth and he had a QBR of 5 against Clemson and a 12 against Ohio. Even keeping Monmouth, in 3 games he rushed for a whopping 2 yards...His only passing TD's (5) were against Monmouth...At NU he finished with -21 yards rushing, a 64 QBR and 17 TD's to 10 INT's..... He wasn't good. Palmer bailed him out.
Also are you confusing QBR with his completion percent???
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3 hours ago, lo country said:Casey Thompson had NFL WR Trey Palmer to throw to. Palmer would hep any QB look good. Thompson couldn't run to save his life.
In his only 3 games at FAU he threw 5 INT's...Take out Monmouth and he had a QBR of 5 against Clemson and a 12 against Ohio. Even keeping Monmouth, in 3 games he rushed for a whopping 2 yards...His only passing TD's (5) were against Monmouth...At NU he finished with -21 yards rushing, a 64 QBR and 17 TD's to 10 INT's..... He wasn't good. Palmer bailed him out.
Man, you might want to get your memory checked, just saying. That or you're trying way to hard and making crap up trying to defend your position. Either way
You could argue Casey made Palmer look good.
"He (Palmer) was limited to one catch against No. 17 Illinois - which entered the game with the nation's No. 1 pass defense - as Nebraska struggled after starting quarterback Casey Thompson was knocked out of the game in the first half. Thompson also missed the Minnesota game, when Palmer caught five passes for 37 yards. With Thompson still out, Palmer caught five passes at No. 3 Michigan but was limited to 12 yards. Thompson returned against Wisconsin, when Palmer caught four passes for 47 yards, including a pair of touchdowns." https://huskers.com/sports/football/roster/season/2022/player/trey-palmer
And surely Casey's low rushing numbers had nothing to do with the fact he was sacked 24 times behind the worst offensive line in modern Nebraska History. Fun fact, he only had 56 total carries on the year. That means sacks accounted for 43 percent of his carries. But yeah, rushing is the way to judge his QB talent.
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https://huskers.com/sports/football/roster/season/2022/player/casey-thompson
Casey Thompson battled through injuries to start 10 of 12 games at quarterback in his first season at Nebraska in 2022, missing the Minnesota and Michigan games due to injury. He completed 63 percent of his passes (173-of-274) for 2,407 yards and 17 touchdowns, while adding five rushing touchdowns. Thompson had three 300-yard passing games this season, becoming only the fifth quarterback in Husker history with three 300-yard passing games in a season. He has also threw at least one touchdown pass in each of his 10 games.
Thompson's 2,407 passing yards ranked seventh in school history while his 17 touchdown passes tied for 10th on Nebraska's season chart. Thompson ranked 12th nationally in passing yards per completion (13.9) in 2022, 14th in passing yards per attempt (8.8) and 29th in passing efficiency (150.1).
Thompson completed 25-of-42 passes for 355 yards and one touchdown in his debut against Northwestern. His 355 passing yards led the nation in Week 0 and were the most passing yards by a Husker in his debut and the most passing yards in a season opener in school history. Against North Dakota, Thompson threw for 193 yards and two touchdowns. He accounted for four total touchdowns against Georgia Southern, throwing for 318 yards and one score while setting a career high with three rushing touchdowns. He passed for 129 yards and one touchdown against No. 6 Oklahoma. Thompson completed 18-of-27 passes for 270 yards and two touchdowns against Indiana, while adding a one-yard rushing touchdown.
Thompson led Nebraska's comeback win at Rutgers. He completed 24-of-36 passes for 232 yards with two second-half touchdown passes as the Huskers overcame a 13-point halftime deficit. The next week at Rutgers, Thompson threw for 354 yards and two touchdowns, averaging a whopping 22.1 yards per completion. Thompson threw for 172 yards and one touchdown in less than a half while facing the nation's No. 1 pass defense against No. 17 Illinois, but an injury kept him out for the final series of the first half and the entire second half. The injury also kept him out of the Minnesota and Michigan games. He returned to start against Wisconsin and was Nebraska's leading rusher and passer, throwing for 120 yards and two touchdowns while rushing for 33 yards. In the season finale at Iowa, Thompson led Nebraska to a win by completing 20-of-30 passes for 278 yards and three touchdowns.-
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4 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:
Yes, Casey Thompson was a QB that Rhule inherited. He wasn’t able to go thru Spring practice due to shoulder surgery. He watched on the sidelines as Sims ran with the first-team in Spring practice. Thompson didn’t want to compete with Sims, so he left. Yeah, I guess you could say Rhule shouldn’t have brought in Sims when they had Thompson, but Thompson may not have fit what Rhule was looking to do. Outside chucking it deep to Palmer, Thompson was far from a great QB, and he was also injury prone. Thompson ended up at a G5 school and only played a few games before tearing his ACL. But, go ahead and say that Rhule “ran him off” so that fits your opinion.
Ok so you admit the QB room wasn't left "without anything remotely close to a qb" by Frost. Glad we agree. Have a good one man.
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34 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
Do you want me to walk you through all the differences between Tom Osborne's national championship team in his 22nd season as head coach, and inheriting a 4-8 dumpster fire of a team with tenuous personnel and no offensive identity of any kind?
Are you daft or intentionally missing the point. Every time an offense has struggled under Callahan, under Pleini, under Solich, Frost, and even Riley. The coordinator had gone back, simplified the offense, identified the plays that worked best, prioritized those plays, developed a system around those plays and and boom, like magic the offense got better. It's almost like they realized the team they had wasn't capable of running the full system and so they scrapped the pieces that didn't work and emphasized those that did. There are quotes from every head we have had about having to do that to match the offense to the talent on hand. SATTTERFIELD REFUSES TO DO THAT.
In my example of Matt Turman that so clearly went over your head Osborn modified the offense with Turman at qb to ensure Matt wasn't put into a position to fail, largely by taking the game out of his hands and mitigating the chance for unforced errors.
Apparently you need to be walked through the difference between coaching the players you have verses failing to coach and blaming it on the players.
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34 minutes ago, MyBloodIsRed16 said:
having guys in the room is not the same as saying the cupboard is stocked. The cupboard even if those guys were still here is "bare" of talent.
Casey Thompson is 10 times the QB that Sims is and Frost left him here. That he left after Rhule was hired is not on Frost.
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3 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:
Yes it is.
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8 minutes ago, Mavric said:
Every fan base says that about every coach if they're not winning enough.
No kidding. I know a fan base that thought they needed to fire Shawn Watson, Tim Beck, Troy Walters, and Scott Frost as offensive coordinators. Fan bases don't know nothin.
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On 11/11/2023 at 11:17 PM, secretasianman said:
So this group of offensive players, led by Haarberg or Purdy (Frost’s QB’s) , with Frost as OC, would be successful this season ??? Is that what you’re saying?
It’s the level of talent, not the coaching.
Which Nebraska offensive player would start on Maryland’s offense? Oh, none?
It’s not Satterfield.Just saying, wouldn't have this group of players if Frost is still coaching. Casey Thompson and Torres wouldn't have left, Haarberg would still be a tight end, Sims and his issues wouldn't be here, and a number of the transferred wide receivers still would.
Rhule brought in a transition recruiting class and did the best he could. But you call plays that fit your personnel especially when the game is on the line. THAT IS ON SATTERFIELD. The quarterbacks all seem to be getting worse. THAT IS ON SATTERFIELD. Sims was his handpicked starter and that was made clear to Casey Thompson. THAT IS ON SATTERFIELD.
You think he needs more time and want to see what he can do with his players fine. I don't agree, but can accept that is your opinion. Your absolute absolving him of any of this mess being his fault though is borderline nuts. Maximizing talent is what coaches are paid to do. Not only is he not doing that, but he is putting them in position to fail by calling his offense regardless of the personnel on hand.
His play calling is this kind stupid. Hey guys, Tommy Frazier is out for the season, Brook Berringer got his lungs deflated. We're rolling with Matt Turman, and everyone expects him to primarily hand off to the running back, so instead, we are going to have him pass it every other down and sometimes two downs in a row, and focus on only him running the ball and using Phillips and Green primarily as decoys and occasional pass catchers. Great plan!
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15 minutes ago, Red Five said:
Both Smothers and Thompson have worse QBRs than Haarberg (39.4).1.And they'd be better backups than Sims and probably Purdy. 2. Even if they were 4th string options, our bowl chances with them would be better than rolling out injured Haarberg, injurred Smothers, healthy Sims, or whatever walk-on or converted other position option we now have, would they not?
And let's not forget walk-on Jarret Synek at bare minimum proved he could take three snaps against Michigan and not throw an interception or fumble as a redshirt freshman. Even that's a step up over Sims.
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6 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:
Thanks for clarifying. I was wrong. If he does stick around he’s still probably the 4th string QB. Either way, he’s a FCS-level QB. Not sure how that makes you think he was a big loss.
1. He's a freshman, 2. He's still probably better than anyone on our roster. Our QBs aren't even FCS level.
3. I'm not saying he was a huge loss. All I'm saying is that the QB cupboard being bare isn't on Frost. The mistake was bringing in Sims that's on Satterfield, who hand picked him and Rhule for trusting in that pick. Outside that it's a symptom of a coaching change. But to put the thinness of the position at Frost's feet is not accurate.
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7 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:
Didn’t Richard Torres leave prior to the 2022 season? If so, how is that on Rhule?
Also, Smothers was likely to transfer no matter what, so he could play someplace. He wasn’t exactly happy being 3rd string under Frost and Whipple.
Yes, Sims was a terrible decision. No doubt about that. Thompson was also coming off shoulder surgery and he decided to transfer because he wanted to be assured of the starting job. Thompson has also been injury prone throughout his entire career, and would have been as much of a gamble as other QB’s.
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5 minutes ago, lo country said:
Seriously Scott? You left the cupboard stocked? Oddly enough none of them are still here but HH that would have never played a down for you and Purdy. Who probably would not have either. And the two who remained were not going to play under Rhule until TO Sims got injured. Same with Purdy until HH got injured. And those who left went to smaller schools in FCS or G5. Talk about rewriting history.
A lot of people were high on Torres, and looks like he's done pretty darn well. These three QBs have 17 tds and 9 ints. Between them. How's ours look again? Right.
The ones that stayed were the ones without another option.
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On 11/11/2023 at 3:06 AM, BaytownHusker said:
LMAO why??? The kids are 17,18,19 years old. Colleges recruiting them is like them chasing girls. They dont know what they want. They think they do until they see some thing different. Have 100 different people telling them what they should do.
I dealt with this with both my boys with recruiting and where they wanted to go and end up. And they werent even big time recruits.
I really honestly dont think alot of people understand how the recruiting can impact and play with these kids lives and familys until they have had to sit down and deal with it for 2-3 years and watch it play out.
On a side note Lacys team is moving on to the 2nd round after their win tonight.
Thought if he had a commitable offer to Bama, he would've already committed there. Maybe still a chance to land the kid?
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39 minutes ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:
7 lineman & run the wildcat all game?
FLYING "V" all day!
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1 hour ago, lo country said:
Satt isn't a qb coach. Frost didn't leave anything remotely performing like a QB. And there is no way in hell Rhule privately thinks that pass play was the right call. A true fresh receiver, one probably not 100% and 5'9 and the other a former walk on with a lot of drops....Why was Fidone not in that route. He's the tallest, the biggest, could post out a DB and wouldn't have been jammed/stuffed on the line like Coleman nor allowed a smaller DB make him run his flat like Kemp. Stupid all the way around. And Rattlers 2023 numbers through 10 games are improved from year 2 under SATT at USC. New coach, scheme etc....And why can't our DB's jam receivers on the LOS like Maryland did Coleman?
Frost did a lot wrong, but the state of the QB room is not on him and to suggest so is a deceitful rewriting of History. Start of 2022 the QB room featured, Casey Thompson (FAU), Logan Smothers (Jacksonville State), Chubby Purdy, Heinrich Haarberg, Richard Torres (Incarnate Word), Mikey Pauley (Kansas), Jarrett Synek (South Dakota).
The QB catastrophe is not on Frost.
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4 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:
Really? You don’t understand the hate for Satterfield after watching some of his playcalling?
I may have been on the Fire Satt bandwagon in the heat of the moment following the Maryland game, but I won’t really be onboard until he screws us with a capable QB. But he sure doesn’t seem to customize his play calls to the abilities of the personnel he has. First and goal from well inside the 10 and one of his plays is a pass from the 3rd string QB, who is seeing his first game action this season? Run. The. Damn. Ball. Worst case you walk away with a FG up by 3 and put it in the hands of our more than capable defense.
There have been many more square peg round hole moments for him this season but that is the freshest and likely most damaging. I’ll relax and give him the chance to show what he can do with some half way capable players (hopefully) next year but the hate is not hard to understand.
No this is worse than that. His play calls was a pass from his 3rd string QB to true freshmen/ 2nd and 3rd string receivers that have been inconsistent catching the ball or running the correct routes, behind a mash unit offensive line consisting of mostly underclassmen and backups, during the most crucial moment of the game, when all they had to do was not turn the ball over to win and three interceptions had already been thrown during the game. If there was ever a time to embrace an inner Brian Ferentz play call this was absolutely it. - This was not only the 3rd dumbest play call I have ever seen (the dumbest being an onside kick, and the 2nd being anytime you have 3rd or 4th and less than a yard and run some stupid shotgun formation play), but it also shows absolutely no understanding of personnel on the field, their capabilities and the situation that Nebraska was in. It speaks to hubris and square peg round hole mentality that has doomed so many other Husker teams as of late. A good coordinator needs to maximize strengths and minimize the weaknesses of their units. Satterfield has this team maximizing weaknesses and minimizing strengths in game. It is mind boggling dumb.
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7 hours ago, ndobney said:
I heard our quarterbacks tried to tweet after the game but even their tweets were intercepted
Heard that was Haarberg. Then Sims, being the awesome teammate he is, tried to hand Haarberg is laptop but dropped it.
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One thing I learned, had Alante Brown stayed, he might've been our starting QB.
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1 minute ago, M.A. said:
Worst ever?
On side kick with momentum and the lead was one bad call in an otherwise decent called game, worst single decision, ever. This game was completely terrible from the word go.
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4 minutes ago, NebraskaHarry said:
Chinander is to Frost what Satterfield is to Rhule. Bad enough I had to spend 3+ years hoping and praying for the day Chinander would get fired. Now I fear the same with Satterfield. He should be gone now.
Cosgrove under Callahan too.
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6 minutes ago, olddominionhusker said:
Yet he was also the coach of a QB last year that threw for 3000 yds had a 67% comp % and upset Tennessee and Clemson. So he forgot everything in the last year? Or maybe he’s been tasked with two completely talentless QBs who couldn’t be coached to competence by Sean Mcvay or anyone else for that matter
And I'd you listen to anyone from South Carolina they say those stats were compiled in spite of Satterfield, not because of it. And those stats came largely in a couple games that were outliers and most of the games looked like the crapshow offense we have been watching this season.
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13 minutes ago, olddominionhusker said:
Or they inherently don’t have the ability to read a division 1 defense despite all attempts to coach them. If Satt was the OC and let’s say Rattler was here. Do you think the results would be the same?
Two different QBs with different levels of experience, and different talents fail to recognize coverage and throw straight to the defender under the same QB coach seemingly every deep pass. That tells me it is a coaching issue. They are being coached the same way, so they make the same mistakes.
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Cody Green also left here and went to Tulane, I believe.