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This hire is pleasing to me.

Great post Landlord;

 

I think that we need to understand that Kenny is simply a young and emotional kid with a world of talent. I think Kenny has served Nebraska well for the most part, and has made us proud. I have nothing negative to say about him. I think it was an unfortunate choice that he wore the FOE insignia. That was in poor taste certainly. We must understand that these kids do have an emotional tie to Bo since he recruited them and became a mentor to them : for better, or for not so much better. These are 18 -21 year olds who have left home and have gone off into another world to play big time college football at a place legendary for it's success and which is often crawling with the local and national media, as they now live in a fish bowl. Bo and his staff are all that they have known since coming to Lincoln. I can see them sending out one last showing of support and respect for their fired Coach. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that IMO. Coach Riley certainly understands this. He has been very classy with his response to this , and has reached out to them with grace. We have seen nothing but positive feedback from them since. These are great kids. It is just unfortunate about the FOE thing. I am sure that once the days and weeks go by now that the season is over, and the draft looms for Kenny, he will reflect on this, and we will probably see or hear some sort of acknowledgment or apology on that issue. If not ; I am sure he will put it all behind him anyways. As should we ! I wish him all the best in the draft, and Beyond! Thanks for the memories young man!

Bell has worn the FOE on his forearms his entire career if I'm not mistaken. I seriously doubt he will regret that.

 

 

 

Also, speed is not an issue for Gerry. Kid set state records for track in South Dakota. Not sure where that idea is coming from...

Probably more of a lateral quickness issue. Watch the film and he is just slow on cutting and getting in right position often leading to the missed arm tackling. I am pulling for the guy but a lot of groans from the section I was in. He has a nose for the ball...if he can get to it.

 

How much of that was from the system though? We had the same problems at LB and with corners for years now. Nate can run with anybody. The only person I've ever seen out run him was that #2 for USC the other night. I don't think he lacks lateral speed either, it's just being out of position or thinking too much that makes him look slow and he usually compensates for that. He was a much more dependable safety than Cooper was, and a better athlete too.

 

Not saying I'd move him...just bringing up the topic for discussion. USC was clearly faster...and Melvin Gordon says hello. In the section I was in if Husker fans wanted to blame a bad offensive series the blame went to TA. If they wanted to blame a bad defensive series the blame went to Gerry. Some were calling him Pat Ricketts which got some laughs. Not saying either are right but this was the vibe from the bowl game. I like the kid...but I don't think he is speedy fast/quick...maybe against most BIG teams but not against the type of speed that USC, Oregon, FSU, 'Bama, and tOSU have.

 

The people you sat with are dolts. You must be the only person who doesn't think he's fast.

 

 

Gregory almost assuredly a Top 5 pick now. Two of the Top 5 definitely won't draft a QB and two others wouldn't have to draft a QB.

 

I don't personally see RG projecting much more then a 3-4 LB and a pass rusher on 3rd down. I would draft him at the end of the 1st round or somewhere in the first half of the 2nd. Thus, I believe he would actually prepare himself best for the NFL by staying with the Huskers, adding 10-15 pounds and working on techniques and getting stronger and faster.

 

 

That is a great way to make a lot of money in the NFL.

 

He definitely fits better as a 3-4 OLB but he can play three downs. He's basically the same size as Von Miller was coming out of college and the Broncos played Miller as a 4-3 DE and he piled up sacks.

 

If you can rush the passer as well as RG4 can, you'll play a lot for a long time in the NFL.

 

Ha, I wish I would've seen your post first. You summed up my thoughts quite well. It would be an act of lunacy on Gregory's part to come back to NU.

 

Gregory almost assuredly a Top 5 pick now. Two of the Top 5 definitely won't draft a QB and two others wouldn't have to draft a QB.

 

I don't personally see RG projecting much more then a 3-4 LB and a pass rusher on 3rd down. I would draft him at the end of the 1st round or somewhere in the first half of the 2nd. Thus, I believe he would actually prepare himself best for the NFL by staying with the Huskers, adding 10-15 pounds and working on techniques and getting stronger and faster.

 

The skill set you described in todays pass happy NFL makes him a top 10 draft pick. Short of him getting hurt, bombing at the combine or off the field issues cropping up there is zero chance he drops out of the top 10. He's essentially Von Miller plus 3 inches. You know where Von Miller went? #2 overall.

I'm simply curious, why do you see him as a bottom 1st round draft pick?

I have read most of the comments. I think under another coach, everyone would be singing his praise. He did some bone head things, but kids do that. Dealt with kids/young men his age for many years. Most of them make mistakes. All of us do.

 

I hated the blue shirt under his jersey, trivial to most, but it screamed I am special, above the team.

 

But overall he is a great kid that tried to help, anyone and everyone.

 

I am taking my dislike for Bo out of the equation, Kenny loved him, there were reasons that none of us know, does not make him a bad kid.

 

He played every down full out for Nebraska. Playing while hurt, and most likely not the best offense for his talents. Never quit, loves Nebraska.

 

That is good enough for me. Good luck Kenny

That's an interesting take on the blue jersey that I hadn't considered. I always thought of it as a 'I remember how hard I worked on scout team to get a shot at playing time so I wear this as a reminder of what it takes to get on the field'. I know a few people who have done similar things (while not as visible naturally). One of my close friends kept the apron of the pizza place he worked at during college and used it as fuel that he never wanted to go back there when things got tough in law school.

I absolutely love this hire for Michigan and the Big Ten as a whole if it comes to fruition. If the Big Ten is ever going to get back to national relevance, moves likes this need to be made. Harbaugh may only be there for 5 years, but he's going to turn Michigan into a nightmare for those 5 years. Personally, I see him staying as long as Meyer stays @ OSU (natural parallel between Harbaugh/Meyer to Hayes/Schembechler.

He did some really good things but... he couldn't qualify to carry Rodgers' gym bag. There were dropped passes, passes

I thought he could have got to, but tonight and the Pelini on his right forearm was just a bit too much for me. So long KB, we've got DPE and JW now.

T_O_B

 

It's going to be ok T_O Bull those mean Pelini kids won't hurt you anymore. Shouldn't you be drawing up some new Wing-T plays to give to Riley for his open practices? I saw this play yesterday afternoon called the forward pass, I know you love you some option football but this might be kinda neat.

 

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Oh, and another thing...

 

Remember that Eppley is back. Were gonna get back to hardcore sports specific and position specific training. And if I recall, the head guy at USC ws Epplys #2 man here in the 90's. Pretty strong connection as to why Phillip is the guy. I have no worries whatsoever about S&C moving forward.

Ivan Lewis was born in 1978, the timeline doesn't make sense for him to be here in the 90's.

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ivan_lewis_880409.html

I too, was a little surprised @ Frost turning down CSU. The cupboard is hardly bare there (Higgins and Hart both slated to return). While the most likely reason he stayed was he wants to build up his coaching chops some more and prove he can do it w/ Mariotta, a small part of me thinks he's a little bit delusional. I put Frost a level or two below a guy like Chad Morris who was 'only' able to parlay his success at Clemson into the SMU job. Even if he really succeeds over the next couple years I can't see his first HC job being nothing more than a lower tier P5 job (like Kevin Wilson @ Indiana). Maybe that's what he's holding out for.

Why are people so upset, isn't Gangwash playing less a good thing? He's f'ing terrible.

Boyd coming back would make a huge impact. I truly believe it's a major factor

in our play the last ten to twelve years. If you think Riley has any type of weight training guru

At Oregon St you're very off base. Oregon State has never out muscled much of anyone.

In fact a few schools like Eastern Washington and Sacremento St put the beat down on the Beavers. Even

Portland St gave Oregon State all they wanted. The whole Mike Riley story out here in the

NW has been the joke of Portland the last two days. Various remarks like "can you believe who Nebraska hired". They did what? Yeah we want to win Conference titles and championships. Hmmmm......as Scott Frost and his O is currently up 44-7 on Arizona. I think we contacted the wrong Oregon school. Of course Husker faithful will get behind and believe anything the media tells them. Im sure I'll get several responses like I've got today. Some called me pissed. Some called me stupid and grumpy. I say that's the typical response from all of America today. When they hear things they don't agree with or believe they like to name call and then discredit. All I know I've lived close to Oregon State for over 15 years. I've seen the interviews on TV. I've seen the games live and I know ex Oregon State players. Mike Riley is a nice guy and treats people very nice. What I've seen from his teams over the years. West Coast pro style offense. Lots of penalties, and an over all feeling of being soft. They've rose to occasion in several games and beat highly ranked teams. They've also lost to the powerhouse of Sacremento St and Eastern Washington. I know EU won the Div 2 title. Ok folks if you're ok with NU losing to Chadron state then just keep on believing. I hope all of you and coach Mike Riley prove me wrong. I do know he has coached for a long time and he's just above the .500 mark. I do know the Charges gave him a boot very quick. Prove me wrong please. I just know the product I've seen up and close. Not like the majority of you who asked who? Then goggled his name and did some internet research and started listening to all the talking heads. Several people have been bashing Collin Cowherd on this site from ESPN for his remarks. Cowherd knows like I do. He use to be the radio guy in Portland for 1610 The fan. He's seen it up in close. Don't believe the hype. It's going to be Callahan Part 2, but worse.

Man, you sound like one miserable f%&k*

 

I have been saying that for years. The current big dogs do it different. Bama is the mother ship on this. You get Steele here, we can come back quickly. He knows the ropes, how to sell, who to sell (MOM) and who to make adequate (DAD). He is making that money because of the recruiting side, period. Never seen, but hear about it all the time on, yea I know the Finebaum show, but not from Paul, but people working with in that system. Nebraska can do this, especially with the Big 10 money coming in. We most likely need to spend another 20% due to location.

 

Anxious to see what the staff ends up looking like.

Does the University have the money I always hear they have. After the last two buyouts, will they want to spend what they need to compete with the OSU's, Ala"s.

Would they let Riley put together a staff the size of say, Ala. Didn't Bo just get the use of a Jet last year. Would think some of the other big program would have had one long before Neb did. Just seemed to me that the university was tight with the buck, for a long time.

 

GBR!!!

 

Nebraska will be raking in the cash even more once they become full fledged members of the Big 10 (next year or two?). Money won't be an issue, whether the school wants to flex it's financial muscle is another thing.

Some fair points here although I disagree with most of them.

I completely disagree with the Frost talk. Oregon's offense w/ Mariota at the helm runs itself. If he can prove to be an effective HC over the next couple years, it would be nice to see him take the reigns after Riley calls it quits (or is forced out).

Most of the schools you mentioned either had success in lesser divisions (Boise/TCU--although this year has been different--chalking it up to Patterson bringing in Cumbie but whatever) had an off the charts QB (RG3, Prescott, Alex Smith coupled with the Urbs or weaker conferences to deal with. If you've never been to Corvallis it's hard to describe how tough it is to recruit there when you are under Oregon's shadow in addition to butting heads against conference foes who all have programs that have dedicated vastly more resources to football with maybe the exception of Washington State.

Oregon State has been throwing the ball a lot more for two reasons. 1) They've had stud WRs, they just put Brandin Cooks and Markus Wheaton in the NFL (both top 3 round picks) 2) The areas they recruit are filled with pass happy high schools and JuCos. If you can't get elite talent to your school, you have to coach up what's around you.

 

At the same time it would also be a shame if we pass on Frost now, only to find out that he turned out to be a great upstart somewhere else... and then the window is closed to get him back here!

 

i would really love to snatch somebody who's young, with lots of potential that would trend towards a traditional nebraska brand of football..

My goodness you just described:

Paul Johnson

 

Sport(s) Football Current position Title Head coach Team Georgia Tech Conference ACC Record 57–34 (.626) Biographical details Born (1957-08-20) August 20, 1957 (age 57)

Newland, North Carolina Coaching career (HC unless noted) 1981–1982

1983–1984

1985–1986

1987–1994

1995–1996

1997–2001

2002–2007

2008–present Lees–McRae (OC)

Georgia Southern (DL)

Georgia Southern (OC)

Hawaii (OC)

Navy (OC)

Georgia Southern

Navy

Georgia Tech Head coaching record Overall 164–73 (.692) Bowls 3–6 Tournaments 14–3 (I-AA playoffs) Statistics

College Football Data Warehouse Accomplishments and honors Championships

2 Division I-AA (1999–2000)

5 SoCon (1997–2001)

1 ACC (2009)

4 ACC Coastal Division (2008, 2009, 2012, 2014) Awards

Eddie Robinson Award (1998)

2x AFCA Division I-AA Coach of the Year (1999–2000)

Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year Award (2004)

2x SoCon Coach of the Year (1997–1998)

 

Sounds like a real good fit for Nebraska. Not short on experience. Young enough so that he could be at Nebraska for 20 years. Has moved several times but still looks to be stable rather than a coach that moves whenever a new brass ring presents itself. Tressel is still a bit tainted from his days at OSU. Kiffin is a bit of a flake. Frost is an unknown commodity as a HC. I would almost bet SE will end up hiring someone we don't even discuss here but still, with the regular season over speculating about who the next HC will be is about all we've got t do.

T_O_B

 

 

Just stop it. We get it, you love the option. I never say never because wacky stuff happens all the time, but man, if Paul Johnson got hired at Nebraska. Nebraska would be totally fu^^ing fu^^ed

Why must the new coach have head coaching experience? Jimbo Fisher wasn't a head coach until he took the Florida State job. In his fourth year, he won a NC. For every proven head coach out there, there's a coordinator who became head coach and won a NC within 4-7 years. Even a goober like Gene Chizik did it.

I don't think Jimbo Fisher is a great comparison. He was an OC for 11 years at 3 different schools (Cincy, LSU, FSU) before he got his shot at a big seat. I'd say he's probably a little bit more polished (coaching-wise, certainly not speaking-wise) than Frost. I do see your point though.

 

guys, we are one of only 5 teams in the entire nation to have beaten iowa this year.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa... Since when does that mean anything? Iowa's football program has been irrelevant for 56 years. Whoopee de doo we beat them. When you beat a team you should beat it means nothing.

T_O_B

 

Iowa was a favorite according to the oddsmakers.

Steve Addazio

Love this guy but would think he's the front runner for the UF job.

 

 

 

T_O_Bull, nice list. It might be more helpful if it wasn't so outdated.

 

Just a quick glance..

 

Nussmeier is the OC @ Michigan

Wilcox is the DC @ USC

Mark Helfrich is the HC @ freaking Oregon

Greg Davis is the OC @ Iowa

James Franklin is the HC @ Penn State (seriously how old is this list?!?!? He hasn't been the OC @ Maryland in like 4 years)

 

I'm in agreement with some of the names here.

 

Look, Nebraska is a top 12 job (you could argue top 10) there is ZERO reason we should have to grovel for some hot shot coordinator. I want nothing to do with Scott Frost right now. Let him cut his teeth at San Diego State or something first and prove that he can actually coach and not simply crash the car that Chip Kelly built.

 

In no particular order:

 

McElwain

Gary Patterson

Dan Mullen

I'd love to snag Bilemma (sp) he's onery, I love the way Arkansas plays and it would dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry.

 

Interesting fringe candidates

 

Tressel

David Shaw

Its just a list, newby. My first choice for HC is Paul Johnson who is hardly pass happy and Dennis Erickson didn't make my favorite 5 for HC.

"I want nothing to do with Scott Frost right now." Doesn't exactly put you in the majority here and I was looking for him as OC.

"I'd love to snag Bilemma (sp) he's onery, I love the way Arkansas plays and it would dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry." Really?

"Bielema's first season at Arkansas resulted in an overall record of 3-9, including 0-8 in the Southeastern Conference. It was the Razorbacks' worst SEC conference mark since entering the league in 1992 and their first winless

in-conference season since 1942, when they were a member of the Southwest Conf." You want this guy because he's

"onery" and because it would "dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry." In the words of JohnMcEnroe, "You can't be

serious."

You might want to take a look at HuskerHipster's thread here he's a first time poster too and his post is spot on.

T_O_B

 

It's a severely flawed list w/ lots of incorrect information on it. Are you supposed to get a pass because you put so much time into it? Boo hoo, I'm in the minority here in regards to my thoughts to Frost. Whoopity Doo. Do you really think Frost will come here unless he's guaranteed the HC job down the road? If he does, good luck getting anyone but a lame duck coach to fill in.

 

So, are you just forgetting all the success BB had at Wisconsin? Plus the fact that he's a midwest guy (went to Iowa) and preaches a very physical style of football. 3 straight Big Ten Championships and 3 straight BCS appearances (I realize he lost 2 of them and Alvarez coached in the 3rd one)? Yet, you want to hire Paul Johnson who has won only one conference title and only BCS bowl appearance ended in a loss to Iowa of all teams? To borrow from your quote. YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS.

 

 

I doubt we would pry BB away from Ark. With his record I can't believe the Razorback fans would let him go. Time to get ready for school

newby, your lunch box is packed and the bus will be there soon.

T_O_B

 

Cute comments.

 

T_O_Bull, nice list. It might be more helpful if it wasn't so outdated.

 

Just a quick glance..

 

Nussmeier is the OC @ Michigan

Wilcox is the DC @ USC

Mark Helfrich is the HC @ freaking Oregon

Greg Davis is the OC @ Iowa

James Franklin is the HC @ Penn State (seriously how old is this list?!?!? He hasn't been the OC @ Maryland in like 4 years)

 

I'm in agreement with some of the names here.

 

Look, Nebraska is a top 12 job (you could argue top 10) there is ZERO reason we should have to grovel for some hot shot coordinator. I want nothing to do with Scott Frost right now. Let him cut his teeth at San Diego State or something first and prove that he can actually coach and not simply crash the car that Chip Kelly built.

 

In no particular order:

 

McElwain

Gary Patterson

Dan Mullen

I'd love to snag Bilemma (sp) he's onery, I love the way Arkansas plays and it would dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry.

 

Interesting fringe candidates

 

Tressel

David Shaw

Its just a list, newby. My first choice for HC is Paul Johnson who is hardly pass happy and Dennis Erickson didn't make my favorite 5 for HC.

"I want nothing to do with Scott Frost right now." Doesn't exactly put you in the majority here and I was looking for him as OC.

"I'd love to snag Bilemma (sp) he's onery, I love the way Arkansas plays and it would dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry." Really?

"Bielema's first season at Arkansas resulted in an overall record of 3-9, including 0-8 in the Southeastern Conference. It was the Razorbacks' worst SEC conference mark since entering the league in 1992 and their first winless

in-conference season since 1942, when they were a member of the Southwest Conf." You want this guy because he's

"onery" and because it would "dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry." In the words of JohnMcEnroe, "You can't be

serious."

You might want to take a look at HuskerHipster's thread here he's a first time poster too and his post is spot on.

T_O_B

 

It's a severely flawed list w/ lots of incorrect information on it. Are you supposed to get a pass because you put so much time into it? Boo hoo, I'm in the minority here in regards to my thoughts to Frost. Whoopity Doo. Do you really think Frost will come here unless he's guaranteed the HC job down the road? If he does, good luck getting anyone but a lame duck coach to fill in.

 

So, are you just forgetting all the success BB had at Wisconsin? Plus the fact that he's a midwest guy (went to Iowa) and preaches a very physical style of football. 3 straight Big Ten Championships and 3 straight BCS appearances (I realize he lost 2 of them and Alvarez coached in the 3rd one)? Yet, you want to hire Paul Johnson who has won only one conference title and only BCS bowl appearance ended in a loss to Iowa of all teams? To borrow from your quote. YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS.

T_O_Bull, nice list. It might be more helpful if it wasn't so outdated.

Just a quick glance..

Nussmeier is the OC @ Michigan

Wilcox is the DC @ USC

Mark Helfrich is the HC @ freaking Oregon

Greg Davis is the OC @ Iowa

James Franklin is the HC @ Penn State (seriously how old is this list?!?!? He hasn't been the OC @ Maryland in like 4 years)

I'm in agreement with some of the names here.

Look, Nebraska is a top 12 job (you could argue top 10) there is ZERO reason we should have to grovel for some hot shot coordinator. I want nothing to do with Scott Frost right now. Let him cut his teeth at San Diego State or something first and prove that he can actually coach and not simply crash the car that Chip Kelly built.

In no particular order:

McElwain

Gary Patterson

Dan Mullen

I'd love to snag Bilemma (sp) he's onery, I love the way Arkansas plays and it would dump gasoline on the Wisconsin rivalry.

Interesting fringe candidates

Tressel

David Shaw