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This is the central point hit squarely on the head. The implication in the article is that "if we'd won half of those close losses, we'd be ranked the same as last year" but reality is that if we'd won by 1 instead of lost by 1, these "fancy" analytics would basically keep us in the same position. Because, as is being argued by Sam, actual wins and losses don't matter much in them. It's really about performance against competition strength, regardless of actual outcome. What it means is that a team with a 75% win percentage is on the edge of the top 25, but a team with a 38% win percentage is only 20 spots behind. It's not rocket science and if you can't see on the surface what that means, it's more of a you problem. If you're significantly under .500 and still in the 60th percentile, you're doing more than one thing right.

I doubt many fans are overly gloomy about the staff because of the 3-5 record. Not sure but I doubt it. My guess is that most of the excessive negativity is coming from a small minority of vocal (vocal *now*) fans. Some of the small group are people who really don't understand analytics at all. 3-5 to them is dispositive. The end. Then there are some agenda folks anti mike, AD, or Perlman plus some pro Bo's. And last but not least are the complainers. They do it because it's what they do. 3-5 is good fodder. Zoogs thanks for the op. Interesting. I'm not anti-Mike (but am very anti-Pederson, I mean Eichorst, and his boss). NU screwed up big time going against what TO thought was best for football. We'll suffer the penalty, and all the pretzeled "analytics" aside, this is a .500 staff doing what a .500 staff does. Knute Rockne and Bob Devaney would have a hell of a chuckle over this nonsense. And of course the bottom line is that NU didn't upgrade at all. At best we stayed the same, but have a super nice laid back senior citizen coaching the Huskers now. This mentality is defeatist. It's low hanging fruit. It's pointless. Most of all, it's largely untrue and baseless. The scheme is completely different and is necessary to compete with the teams currently winning championships. Look at the teams in the B1G that run the same pro-style scheme. Wisconsin Michigan Michigan State Iowa Ohio State Illinois Penn State Rutgers Those all look like teams doing well. Look at the nationally recognized programs doing the same. USC UCLA Alabama Florida Oklahoma Georgia Florida State Clemson etc etc....you get the point, but this guy thinks Nebraska needs to run the triple option to be successful. He even referenced Knute Rockne and Bob Devaney, so that must make his opinion have more merit. Oregon, Georgia Tech may be diamonds in the rough, but Navy, Army, Air Force, and any other team running an outdated scheme is proof that it doesn't work and that's why you don't see it being run all over the country like it once was. Stop ignoring the game has changed an entire generation later since success has been had in this state.

^ ALL OF THIS

Except the 2012 MSU team actually faced some ranked teams that year. Every team save Iowa that beat Michigan State finished ranked in the top 25. We dont know for certain how things are going to turn out with Nebraskas opponents, but our losses are to teams that are mostly unranked. And we have 0 quality wins to help offset it. And let's not forget the additional embarrassment MSU suffered from losing to Nebraska that year, who had THE WORST COACH EVAR! Invalid comparison. Just sayin' Also, that 2012 MSU team lost to a 7-5 Michigan squad, 7-5 third placed finish Wisconsin team that still made the B1G championship game and THROTTLED the ranked Nebraska team that beat them 70-31. I can cherry pick too. I'll accept your apology as well.

Except the 2012 MSU team actually faced some ranked teams that year. Every team save Iowa that beat Michigan State finished ranked in the top 25. We dont know for certain how things are going to turn out with Nebraskas opponents, but our losses are to teams that are mostly unranked. And we have 0 quality wins to help offset it. And let's not forget the additional embarrassment MSU suffered from losing to Nebraska that year, who had THE WORST COACH EVAR! Just sayin' actually BYU, Wisconsin, and Northwestern have all been ranked at one point this year.

So why would an AD hire a coach that is going to run the WCO at Nebraska? We tried this with BC and look how that worked out. I think in the BIG this may work out worse than the BC hire. Probably for all the reasons you don't earn a paycheck to understand. Off the top of my head, it makes the university more marketable to higher end offensive talent looking to get to the next level. The pro-style offensive approach increases the ceiling of obtainable talent. There is a difference between BC and Mike Riley. BC is an NFL guy. Outside of Nebraska, his entire career has resided in the NFL. If success would've been achieved here, he'd have bolted to a HC job in the league. It's exactly the opposite for Mike Riley. BC's hire was under similar circumstances however, but the level of experience is starkly different. Riley has far more than BC did during his tenure.

a 4-8 Iowa team?

It's amazing you've actually participated to the tune of 15,700+ posts and have a hard time making sense of my comments. I'm talking about knitting.

The point is, none of you have a clue what the job entails, what the vision is of the people you're mentioning, or how things actually transpired. So your speculation is exactly that. Therefore, you're nothing more than an armchair AD applying nothing tangible to the conversation other than a bunch of guesses.

POB has the second highest completion percentage among california QB's with 100 or more pass attempts. He's a 6'4" 225 pound pro-style QB. He's thrown for 2203 yds through 8 games with a completion percentage of 78% and 5 interceptions. He averages 275 yds/gm and has never finished a game with lower than a 70% completion percentage. He's thrown 23 touchdown passes so far. He averages about 30 pass attempts per game. He also has 530 rushing yards. So would this give any indication that we are going to revert back to a run oriented team? Most on this board are calling for him to start next year and he isn't even here. Because he probably will start. This is the same kid that Trent Dilfer said had the highest ceiling and probability to go as a first round draft pick of the elite 11 competition. Couple that with the fact he's smart. Graduating early. Enrolling in January to be here for spring camp. His sister is moving to Lincoln with him. I don't know where you're getting info that we're going to be a run first team. We haven't exhibited that this year with a roster that is more tailored for it. This guy is the QB that Mike Riley could never get at Oregon State. This young man will be the first QB at Nebraska since Vince Ferragamo to get drafted and play as a quarterback in the NFL. My point exactly, No where did I say we would be a run first team. But 85% on Husker nation is calling for Rileys head because we throw the ball to much. What I am getting at is those same 85% of husker nation are also calling for POB to start next year. Do they think with POB at qb our passing attempts are going to go down? LOL. Now I get it. Nobody said the average Husker fan had a lot of common sense though.

Discounting the early loss to Notre Dame (national title runner up), they lost 5 games that season by a total of 13 points. The next year they went 13-1 winning the Big 10. It was their worst season in the last 7. Just sayin'

I see the armchair ADs are out in full force this week. /facepalm

POB has the second highest completion percentage among california QB's with 100 or more pass attempts. He's a 6'4" 225 pound pro-style QB. He's thrown for 2203 yds through 8 games with a completion percentage of 78% and 5 interceptions. He averages 275 yds/gm and has never finished a game with lower than a 70% completion percentage. He's thrown 23 touchdown passes so far. He averages about 30 pass attempts per game. He also has 530 rushing yards. So would this give any indication that we are going to revert back to a run oriented team? Most on this board are calling for him to start next year and he isn't even here. Because he probably will start. This is the same kid that Trent Dilfer said had the highest ceiling and probability to go as a first round draft pick of the elite 11 competition. Couple that with the fact he's smart. Graduating early. Enrolling in January to be here for spring camp. His sister is moving to Lincoln with him. I don't know where you're getting info that we're going to be a run first team. We haven't exhibited that this year with a roster that is more tailored for it. This guy is the QB that Mike Riley could never get at Oregon State. This young man will be the first QB at Nebraska since Vince Ferragamo to get drafted and play as a quarterback in the NFL.

POB has the second highest completion percentage among california QB's with 100 or more pass attempts. He's a 6'4" 225 pound pro-style QB. He's thrown for 2203 yds through 8 games with a completion percentage of 78% and 5 interceptions. He averages 275 yds/gm and has never finished a game with lower than a 70% completion percentage. He's thrown 23 touchdown passes so far. He averages about 30 pass attempts per game. He also has 530 rushing yards.

And you know this how? I'm fairly convinced everyone on this board knows everything that is going on not just in the football program, but the entire athletic department. One could even argue they're part of the entire administration system. It's pretty epic being in such elite company. Their knowledge is second to none.

Seriously? You would abandon everything you know in favor of coaching a scheme you know very little about? People that think coaches are capable of installing new systems is easy obviously have no experiencing coaching.

I just ran into Bill Cosby, he said have a coke and a smile and shut the f*ck up.

But in "Good Will Hunting," wasn't the janitor really good at complex math equations? Or maybe I'm just missing your point. It means, it's hollywood and movies about toilet scrubbers being geniuses are exactly that. Movies. Fictional stories. People that think they know how to run an athletic department or who is doing what, currently in the program, makes me point and laugh. None of you know what you're talking about. You have no idea how an athletic department is ran or what it would involve being in that position at a power 5 athletic program. Stop pretending you know, because you don't. Calling for a firing you know absolutely nothing about makes husker fans everywhere appear stupid by association.

I love when the idiots come out of the woodwork calling for the AD like they have a clue about running an athletic program at a power 5 school. It's like watching good will hunting. A janitor that knows complex math equations. on a messageboard under an anonymous profile epic

In defense of what they are doing with Tommy, he has proven to be as effective as last year without Ameer to disguise his element of surprise in the run game. You don't coach a certain scheme for 30 years with success in difficult situations only to abandon it in your first year, when that is the reason you were hired.

valid points....scheme was odd and so were targets combined with timing I thought Cross showed the dive and off tackle had potential. I think Langsdorf needs to think about going to the booth this late in the season with no success with him on the field.

There ya go! Fixed it for you! *dusts hands off* Seriously, though, Gill deserves another FBS shot. Not sure it should be at DoNU...but the reason he ultimately failed at Kansas was at least 60% political--very caustic climate down there, as many of the boosters of substance didn't take too kindly to a man of color leading their program. As for head coach, GOAT is on to something with Richt. He'd be willing to bring on specialists and folks like Ed Ogereon(sp) to help fill in gaps and shore up deficiencies (like recruiting) that Nebraska has to contend with. I would be in favor of Turner Gill. I liked what he did with lowly Buffalo in a short period of time. Agree also that he wasn't given a fair chance at Kansas. We need to get back to the Nebraksa's philosophy of doing things It's time that you accept that Nebraska doesn't have a way of doing things. Accept that the the triple option is long gone. Hell, even accept that the run game is not going to be the first option under Langsdorf. It's not at all what we are used to but I think Nebraska fans could use someone proving to them that something other than the triple option can work at this university. It's absolutely vital to move forward. Your desire to hold onto something that doesn't exist is silly. Tom Osborne and his approach was a once in a lifetime success. If Riley can get a QB and a team to execute that pass to set up the run, he will be successful. 10 other universities in this conference prove it can be done. It's absolutely imperative to break the idiotic mentality that people cling onto with complete ignorance that the 80's and 90's are going to return. You are right. It is time we accept losing to Illinois, NW, Wisconsin, BYU, and other unranked teams. It time to accept a losing season. It has been 18 years since TO has been here, and this is the worst start since he left. If fact, this is the worst start since leather helmets (almost). It is EXACTLY time for you to accept it, because it happened. There are reasons for it. Chalk it up. Want more. Cheer for your team and know that they're going to get better. However, don't discount that Northwestern, BYU, and Wisconsin have all been ranked at some time this season and Nebraska actually lost all their games by an average of less than a field goal. You know what hasn't happened? 52-17 or 62-28 in Pelini's first year. 70-10 or 30-3 in Callahan's first year. I'm not even going into the rest of the blow ups they've had. You want to simplify it to wins and losses? Fine. You're entitled. Anyone that reads between the lines sees that this team will turn a corner and it's not gonna be because of fans that constantly call for someone to be fired. It's absurd to behave like that.

Anyone that thinks they have a inkling of comprehending what it takes to be the Athletic Director at this university is lying to themselves, much less the entire message board. Running an athletic department goes way beyond a football program, much less 8 games into a new coach's first season. I point and laugh at people that regurgitate this sentiment because it's really low hanging fruit. If that's the only thing you can say to imply you know what you're talking about, you're probably not worthy of an intelligent conversation in the first place. you're probably not worthy of an intelligent conversation in the first place.

There ya go! Fixed it for you! *dusts hands off* Seriously, though, Gill deserves another FBS shot. Not sure it should be at DoNU...but the reason he ultimately failed at Kansas was at least 60% political--very caustic climate down there, as many of the boosters of substance didn't take too kindly to a man of color leading their program. As for head coach, GOAT is on to something with Richt. He'd be willing to bring on specialists and folks like Ed Ogereon(sp) to help fill in gaps and shore up deficiencies (like recruiting) that Nebraska has to contend with. I would be in favor of Turner Gill. I liked what he did with lowly Buffalo in a short period of time. Agree also that he wasn't given a fair chance at Kansas. We need to get back to the Nebraksa's philosophy of doing things It's time that you accept that Nebraska doesn't have a way of doing things. Accept that the the triple option is long gone. Hell, even accept that the run game is not going to be the first option under Langsdorf. It's not at all what we are used to but I think Nebraska fans could use someone proving to them that something other than the triple option can work at this university. It's absolutely vital to move forward. Your desire to hold onto something that doesn't exist is silly. Tom Osborne and his approach was a once in a lifetime success. If Riley can get a QB and a team to execute that pass to set up the run, he will be successful. 10 other universities in this conference prove it can be done. It's absolutely imperative to break the idiotic mentality that people cling onto with complete ignorance that the 80's and 90's are going to return.

Anyone that thinks they have a inkling of comprehending what it takes to be the Athletic Director at this university is lying to themselves, much less the entire message board. Running an athletic department goes way beyond a football program, much less 8 games into a new coach's first season. I point and laugh at people that regurgitate this sentiment because it's really low hanging fruit. If that's the only thing you can say to imply you know what you're talking about, you're probably not worthy of an intelligent conversation in the first place.