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8 minutes ago, DefenderAO said:

Not sure you're reading the updates.  I'm against the act and the progressive movement to condone, promote, and/or champion it.  

 

A trans person sure did impact lives recently.  And not because they're trans, but that is how the real issue manifested.  Before the shooting, does your relativism say all was well as that persons truth was being fully realized?  Then truth became people need to die.  It infringed on other people's truths they want to live.

 

It's all so terribly tragic.  The shooting, paramount to anything, and then the systems arising in the thread.  

 

You have no idea what caused this most recent shooter to kill in TN.  You are making a leep based on your own hangups.

I suspect the manifesto will be helpful once they share it. Until then we have no clue.  It may stem from the Covanant sexual deviant John Perry that was protected by the church while abusing little girls, it may be that mom pissed them off, it may be because they got fired, it may be because someone called them fat - we/you have no clue.

7 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

I've flubbed this a few times. It's not always easy, especially if you've known a person as one pronoun their whole life. My experience, if you're obviously not doing it intentionally, people are pretty forgiving.

True - and although it took some time for me to latch my head around it just as an English language change  "them/they/their" covers everyone without offending anyone.  

And I think the mass killings af Americans by Americans with guns has gotten sideswiped in this thread by a focus on gender identity.  Theres' another thread on this board for that topic.

Perhaps we can focus on the fact that typically consistent in a mass shooters history is trauma in their childhood - like sexual assaults, bullying, violence in the home and that the majority of them are committed by white, christian, male, loners, many of whom have targeted folks based on religion, race or where they are in proximity to a location that means something to the shooter.  These men are looking for acceptance and approval, and have decided that this suicide, and taking others out with them is the way to gain that.  

Of the 135 mass shootings in the US since 1985 only 4 were done by women.   .03%

Most of these shooters got their guns "legally".

Most of the recent shootings have involved AR15 as the main weapon.

So the problem isn't gender identity.  It's access to guns (mostly high velocity) and lack of stop gap measures to identify the folks that should have access to them.  Most of whom are men.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/27/981803154/why-nearly-all-mass-shooters-are-men

And I don't think it's been posted here, but this is an excellent article.  I've "gifted" it to the board so there shouldn't be paywall issues.

https://wapo.st/3Zq6UjU

I don't think the documentary that you reference supports your argument of "filth, mutilation, sheep" and all the other offensive generalizations you've made on this thread.  There was no "loping off" of anything in it, and to my knowledge that's not an issue anywhere in the US until someone is of legal age and can  make that informed decision with the support of their mental care team.  Perhaps you didn't actually watch it?

We get it - you have issue with people that aren't like you or don't think like you.  It's obvious with your aggressive verbiage here the hatred that you feel and honestly it's pretty scary.

Gun violence is a problem, not a symptom.  Perhaps many issues or what you call "symptoms" play into someone taking that step, but the end result is a problem.  There's  not a bigger problem than death at the hand of another.  And there's no mutilation bigger than what an AR weapon does to a person that's shot with it multiple times.  

1 hour ago, ZRod said:

I mean the other 60% of the time when it's straight white male... We'll just disregard that.

Well then it's the doors silly, or the fact that teachers (who they don't trust to select books) aren't trained and armed, or mental health.  Duh.

wow.

It doesnt matter just like color, religion and sex don't matter.  But it gives the bad guys a topic to focus on to defend their right to "protect" themselves from anyone who doesn't look like or pray like them.

23 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

I still think we need a policy-free discussion about why guns have come to be so fetishized, and why they've become the ultimate display of American patriotism for some people. 

 

We're long past the old NRA that taught gun safety for hunters and handgun safety for personal protection. The Christmas photos of families bearing arms specifically designed to kill a lot of humans as quickly as possible -- and no other purpose -- seem categorically sick to me. I just don't get it. Maybe someone can run me through what I'm missing. 

It's interesting even here with people who are for reasonable gun legislation in the past have said they own AR type guns and they've have a hard time giving them up as theyre' fun to shoot.  Or that they own multiple guns.  Why.

Easy to come on here and vent - take some action.  Reach out to your elected officials and those on the proper committee.  Search by your state - call any office, email via their site (often they make you list your voting zip in order to do so).  Won't take but 10 mins and they track traffic and content they receive.

https://www.senate.gov/senators/

https://www.house.gov/representatives

Many of you are in red states - let them know that you'll vote for those that value ALL life, including after birth.

3 hours ago, TGHusker said:

GOP values.   That is all the Dem candidate for presidents has to ask the voters.  "Do you value what the GOP values as displayed not by their words but by their actions?"

 

If played right, it could be up there with "Are you better off now than what you were 4 years ago?"  (Reagan)

Listened to an interview with Mehdi Hasan who said the trick to holding these blow hards accountable is to go into any debate, interview, town hall and just keep asking the same question - for as long as it takes - forget about all the other bs talking points they respond with and just keep asking - ""Do you value what the GOP values as displayed not by their words but by their actions relative to human life?"

On 3/21/2023 at 8:10 PM, BigRedBuster said:

Being his spokesperson has to be one of the worst jobs ever. 
 

 

 

She looks like a hologram.

4 hours ago, suh_fan93 said:

 

Proving once again that white, republican men have no clue about women's bodies.

Seems like I remember right, on previous threads that some folks take words very seriously, like when Jeffries said (paraphrasing here) "Dems need to take back the house immediately" - there was a huge effort to argue and say this was a threat that he was making because he used the word "immediately".  What do those OAN/Fox/Breitbart/4Chan folks think about all the threats the mango menace is boldly making with zero nuance?  I don't see a lot of them worried here ....

And we saw a 15 second clip - the public has no clue any discussions or behaviors that have been going on.  I doubt this was the first incident between him and the coach.

I saw today that they are allowing the jury to remain annonymous in the Jean Carroll trial as the history that the defendant has of threatening people.

The simple act of calling it The Affordable Care Act gets more support from repubs than the alternative term ObamaCare (which I know you all know is actually a slight update on Romney Care from MA that was put into place years ago)

12 hours ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. 

It's like he doesnt' realize we all know OH and PA are swing states just like he does.  

You may have "felt" like that but the numbers don't lie - he is still trending to be the nominee for the GOP.  

1 hour ago, commando said:

he is calling for violence again

Honestly it will be sorta interesting - Id argue the SUPER Trump nutjobs did January 6th, and they are now either in jail or on parole so who shows up?  

The police plan better be to arrest anyone at the time rather than this "go back and find them with video" after the fact.  Either they're wanted from the last deal or on parole or they're in new trouble.  

And the conspiracy thinker in  me says, tell everyone Tuesday in NY then quietly have the GA folks arrest him Monday in FL for their charges.

3/21/23 - now to be known at "T Day"

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/health/abortion-pill-safety-dg/index.html

It's not a safety issue.

32 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

It's the stupidest thing in the world.  My Dad, who is elderly and MAGA through and through....has, over the last 10 years decided that Dr's are all horrible and dumb and he knows so much more than them.  So, he spends his time ordering every stupid supplement pill he sees an advertisement for.  He has boxes and boxes of the crap and hardly ever takes it. It gets so damn old.

Alex Jones is no dummy selling those "remedies" to his audiences.

And I'm sorry.  I have a MAGA dad as well but he's not savvy enough to take action and order anything, and my mom keeps him pretty in line with the medical stuff, as she's prone to lung issues, so he's pretty respectful of her health.  Though he did get it in his head that his CPAP made him have a long lived cold (not the fact that he's now almost 80 and just because you didn't used to get sick now when you do you don't bounce back as quickly).

10 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

  Amazing how that works.  If you're stupid enough to believe a horse medicine is going to save you from something it's not even designed for, and you're an idiot enough to be promoting it to others..... then you deserve what  you get.  

ANYbody who listens to a "heavy machine operator" for medical advice deserves anything that happens to them.

The fact that people are propping up totally unqualified clowns as experts in things other than their area of practice is just incredible to me.  But we are trying to hang Fauci??

I interpreted it as someone who was always late last year and it's continued.  I didn't understand "Mr. Irrelevant" comment. Other than making the leap that talent isn't enough to carry you now, you have to bring it all the time, respect the team, nobody is better than another or gets special treatment.

I can only assume Rhule was using the podium apply some positive peer pressure on whomever it is.