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His commitment is the biggest one in this class. He’s been as big of a get then anybody I can remember in last 7 classes. He has helped bring so many guys to this class.

56 minutes ago, lo country said:

I guess I am at the point where the university gives an athlete a full ride expenses all paid education.  Previously the athlete was locked into the "contract".  If they transferred, sit a year.  Now it's complete free agency.  Staff and school take a chance on a kid who then can up and leave with no warning, no reason etc...The staff expected him to stay around.  How many non- producers has NU carried year after year to be nothing but live practice players for the starters.  In this new mercenary age of college sports (football) why should the staff me mandated to keep, to be brutally honest, dead weight, that will never see the field.  When after "X" number years they have done nothing.  How many players over the roster is NU now?  Maybe players need to know that the staff can now exercise the same freedoms players can with their scholarships.  Rhule needs to flip a roster?  You 12 guys are out.  Welcome to the new age.  You "signed a contract".  Honor it.  Want to transfer after your 4 years?  Sure rock on.  But this free agency crap, no thanks. 

I’m not saying you’re wrong at all I think after 1st year you can transfer or they can get out of their offer after 1st both sides are to honor the contract unless player goes pro. 

2 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

I’m sure that happens in many cases, and that’s fair. But there are plenty where that is not the situation. How many guys have you seen transfer that were not told they wouldn’t be playing? Those are the ones that hurt. It’s not a level playing field in all cases. The portal and NIL have drastically changed things, and not for the better imo, unless you’re only concerned about better for the players.

I agree with you and I don’t like it either but I also don’t think it’s fair a coach gives a kid a scholarship and by end of fall he’s basically releasing him. 

3 hours ago, JJ Husker said:

I completely agree. What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander. Commitment can’t be a one way street.

It’s not some of these kids that aren’t playing are forced to enter transfer portal . They’re called in and told you won’t play here you need to move on. My son is a D1 baseball player and it’s happened to a couple of his teammates. I don’t think it’s right either way but it’s definitely the same playing field.

If he’s at Nebraska that’s means Dylan isn’t.

Another good pick up for Nebraska.

20 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

@sho has mentioned this a few times on this board the past couple of days, and I listened to 3+ hours of coverage yesterday on 1620 the Zone and another 2 hours this morning with Mike'l Severe.  They just don't have a good feeling of Mickey wanting to stick around.  That could be because 1) he didn't get the full-time head coaching job at NU, so it may be weird for him to go back to an assistant coach role at the same school, and 2) Mickey (along with Busch) may not want to work with Rhule, due to how Rhule fired Joe Brady at Carolina (Brady, Mickey, and Busch all coached together at LSU).

If they don’t want to Coach at Nebraska because he fired a friend then they really don’t want to coach here it’s part of the business. I guarantee if money is right they’ll be here.

5 minutes ago, Stone Cold said:

We may never know, but i would like to know how this worked out.  I would like to know if Fickel or Kiffin said no so they went back to Rhule.  That would make more sense to me.  But if they knew it was Rhule and they talked to the coaching staff and worked out things behin the scenes then that is good for the team and the current staff.

I think Trev had a plan the whole time at least I’m hoping he did. To me this is a good hire. I hope Mickey is all in too. 

7 minutes ago, Stone Cold said:

Well this makes sense, like how the frost info got leaked during there championship game.  I am stoaked but, really i understand why we waited but this isnt a suprise, like not at all.  If we didnt want to distract the team, then i understand that.  But if we waited 2 months for this, it seems almost like this is the person we had all along then why jerk everyone along.  The team would of won or lost reguardless.  I think thats the biggest frustration because of how long they waited.  I dont know, i am happy with Rhule, I would of been happy with Fickell and Kiffin and that is what it seemed we were holding out for was the end of the season.  But we have a guy we knew we were gonna get a month ago.

We have no clue what has happened behind the scenes . Ruhle probably has majority of staff assembled and him Mickey have talked and got things worked out . 

Johnson drops wide open pass and all of a sudden we fall apart. 

Not very football smart at all the Leiwer play then TE grabs a guy to get up and takes away the first down.

This is unbelievable this team is very mentally weak.

10 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Sean Snyder would be a good get. Success in special teams at both KSU and USC. 

 

I have a bad feeling that Frost and Co. have literally no clue who they're going to get at offensive coordinator or OL coach. This might get ugly.

Do you really believe Trev and Scott didn’t sit down and go over what they want and who they want before deciding to let Scott come back. Trev doesn’t seem like a guy that doesn’t prepare and have a plan . 

I’m going to start with this today game no excuse you can’t lose this game. 
 

In my opinion there’s multiple reason Trev doesn’t fire Frost this year. 
 

1. Most AD don’t make drastic decisions in first 3 months on job. They usually evaluate the situation for a year before deciding. 
2. 15 million dollar buyout this year if he does it now. 
3. I know most of you don’t want to hear this but this year Nebraska would be anywhere from the 5-7 best job opening. 
4. The fact he’s a Nebraska native he’s getting a longer period because they want him to succeed. 
5. who can we get that’s definitely better for what coaches are making “Mel Tucker”

This is the worst loss in Frost era! I’ll keep rooting for these guys and be positive but this one I thing is the worse loss of all.

Just now, Decked said:

Scott Frost blows another one 

How is that Frost fault the players are choking . 

3 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

HAHAHAHA...why would anyone transfer here? Now? to play? maybe...but playing on a losing team isn't exactly the direct path to the NFL.

Why do you come on here to be negative.

On 11/8/2021 at 4:05 PM, 307husker said:

Maybe it's not about the money.

Yah and I’m sure with 11.5 million he will have after next season if fired he could find a beach house somewhere.

GLAD TO SEE A REAL FOOTBALL GUY LIKE  OUR AD TREV ALBERTS SEES THE OVERALL PROGRESS!!!

10 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said:

Can you find me one metric that suggests this?

The fact the avg margin of defeat in 2017 was 21 with one of those losses by 4 to Northern Illinois and the avg margin now is 6 against away tougher schedule. So there is improvement should we won against Illinois yes and maybe Purdue or Minnesota. But we have improved. 

Just throwing this out here to 

Illinois 3 redshirt Sr. 1 redshirt Jr

Michigan 3 grad Sr 1 Rs Jr

michigan St. 3 Grad Sr. 1 redshirt Sr. 1rd jr

Minnesota 4 RS senior 1 Sr

Purdue 2 gr Transfer 1 rs Jr. 
Oklahoma 3 rs Sr. 1 RS Jr

Nebraska 1 RS Jr 1 RS So 1 So 2 freshmen.

The fact we’re in games with by far the youngest OLine in the Conference and battling shows there’s progress we just need to mature and get better fundamentally.

6 minutes ago, EngineeringHusker said:

I doubt any OC worth a million bucks would come here. Why would you? Frost is the proverbial offensive guru, you'd be working for him. How would that work out? Also, there's a decent chance you wouldn't be here for longer than a year.

Why would they the fact Nebraska football has been irrelevant for 20 yrs. with very little in state talent proves this was a total rebuild and that takes longer than 3 yrs. I know people will say 4 but let’s be real the covid year made it very difficult we lost players before they ever played a game. That’s not something Frost controlled it’s reality the reason kids come to Nebraska for football is the fans and community but that was all taken away so they left. I’m not a total Frost guy but we are better then when he got here this team is an Oline away from being really good the fact we start 2 freshman tackles 1 sophmore guard Rs soph Center and Jr guard we should be a lot better there next year. 

9 hours ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

I can explain it. Uh...it's not true and you're wrong.

 

In 2012 Tim Beck was the 3rd highest paid coordinator in the B1G. In 2013 Tim Beck was the highest paid coordinator in the conference. We've been 3rd or 4th in assistant coach salary pools in conference for the last decade. In 2020, with Frost's cheaper (because unqualified) assistants, we were 19th in the country in assistant pools.

 

Bill Moos was much less conservative with money than Eichorst or Osborne were before him, and since we weren't underpaying our assistants under those guys, we sure as hell aren't since Moos has been here.

So 3-4 in salary in Big 10 and 19th in country is where you think Nebraska should be. That’s fine if you want to play for 3-4 place . The reality is this we need to have better Asst. to recruit to call plays the state of Nebraska is not a hot bed for talent so we need a reason for kids to come here and don’t say because it’s Nebraska football to these kids that doesn’t mean much. Frost needs to go get a top of the line OC and OLine coach which will cost at least a $1million more then what they have. If it is all on Frost for the staff and not Admin as far as money goes then he better do something before he loses his job but I really think it’s both as far as paying top OC.

Yes Frost brought his guys but explain why Riley and Pelini Asst coaches were underpaid too. It’s either they don’t want to pay for top Asst.  Or Top Asst don’t want to come here. The fact over the years we haven’t had top paid coordinator when was the last big name coordinator to be at Nebraska . 

Please explain why our top Asst. Is the 58 top paid Asst. He doesn’t have an open check book . Look at facts Nebraska has always underpaid the Asst.