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3 hours ago, Stumpy1 said:

It was a joke

Ohh I get it! Sorry, that went way over my head. 

36 minutes ago, TherealTomOsborne said:

Passing along info that the West Virginia offensive coordinator took a head coaching job at Texas State.  Calling a flip alert on this one!!

6 minutes ago, Stumpy1 said:

Why would Holgorsen go to Texas St. instead of staying at WV...Dumb move

He wouldn't, it's the OC that's leaving. I think Holgorson calls the plays and runs the offense so may not be a huge factor, I don't know if Wright is really attached to the OC or not - offensive staff turnover can't hurt our chances though.

8 minutes ago, junior4949 said:

Here's a list of guys that came into the program with some pretty decent hype but really didn't pan out either because of injury or something else:  DeAngelo Evans, David Horne, Thunder Collins, and Randy Stella. 

I remember buying NCAA Football 2002 and wondering why they had a LB as the kick returner. Dude was an athlete, too bad he couldn't keep everything else together.

For this class, I really like Myles Farmer and Jackson Hannah. Farmer just hits people, and Hannah might be a stretch to say 'not highly regarded,' but he is only a 3 star and I think he'll dramatically outperform the regular 3 star expectations.

11 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Are we certain this was a 'Chin made a mistake' vs. Reed or another member of the defense not doing what they were supposed to? Perhaps I missed something in the thread.

 

Ultimately, it's Chin's responsibility to make the right defensive call and put his players in position to succeed, but the narrative here is tilted in favor of it being a poor schematic choice by Chin. Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something in an article or if Chin talked about it somewhere.

A former LB (Shanle I think?) actually blamed Young on twitter - looks like he was manned up on the RB who picked up Barry, and he hesitates instead of blitzing as soon as he saw the RB stay in. An extra blitzer could have at least rushed the throw, but it did seem a bit harsh to me. I also can't find the tweet at the moment, so either I have the wrong guy or it's been deleted. Frost did say "we gave a little too much ground in one spot" while also saying he thought we were in the right defense, so could've been an alignment error on Reed's part as well.

All in all, I'm ok with the call. I'm pretty confident Hockenson or Fant would have found a hole if we played zone, so I think blitzing is the way to go. Maybe pressing would have been better, maybe Hockenson beats Reed at the line and converts on a slant with the middle of the field wide open. If we could rush with 4 maybe play it safer, but we hadn't done that all year.

As they've said all year, it's the little things that change games. I would guess it's both an alignment error on Reed (maybe that was right for a normal situation, but I would think alignments adjust on 3rd/4th and 8) and not perfect execution by Young. You can maybe get away with one small mistake on the play, not two.

7 minutes ago, everybody knows my name said:

 

You make an interesting distinction there.  I'll say this for Moore - he makes some really bananas, video game-looking plays out there.  On the other hand, he doesn't put up the best numbers in the league, and it's all about production.  They don't give style points for how you matriculate down the field.

I hear what you're saying, but unless the number you're talking about is yards per catch Moore does put up the best numbers in the league. Johnson is definitely underrated nationally - I'd still take Spielman, but I'm a homer. Interesting that 2 of the top 3 returning B1G receivers (although I expect Peoples-Jones to place himself in the conversation next year) are from Minnesota.

Nebraska - 27

Iowa - 23

Pass - 280

Rush - 110

12 minutes ago, runningblind said:

They are better than Michigan State, but let's not act like they are a top 10 offense here. They rank #79 in total O.  The defense sets up their offense as other posters have noted, so the key will be to not turn the ball over, and to have some success on offense ourselves.  If JD plays, and is healthy, I expect that to happen.

And even if they're defense is as good as Michigan State, I don't think we'll need to hold their offense to 6 points to win. If we played either team 10 times, I don't think they're holding us to 9 points more than once. They'll score more than 6 even if our D plays like last week, and we'll score more than 9 even if their D plays as well as MSU  last week IMO. Not saying we'll put up 40, but I think something like 23-20 is more likely than another 9-6 type game.

This is a great opportunity to show what he can do - he definitely flashed good coverage ability early in the year, and I think that's gotten a lot more consistent. I could see him being an NFL sub-package guy, LBs that can cover are pretty rare.

At least we won't have to deal with this since we play in September. Keep it classy, Colorado.

3 minutes ago, Husker03 said:

Disagree.  His head was up, looking at the play, the helmet to helmet contact was just incidental and that is legal. 

That's how I saw it as well. Seems like college also hasn't bought into protecting the QB as much as the NFL. They'll definitely call roughing, but I've seen quite a few no calls on QB hits in college that would've been flags and fines in the NFL. There are exceptions of course, like the call against Freedom earlier in the year - that would've barely been a penalty in flag football.

1 minute ago, Undone said:

What I'm really just wanting to convey is that:

 

1. You have a statistically really good defense (Iowa's) going up against a statistically very good offense (ours).

 

2. Iowa's defense is a machine against the run, but not that fast on the edges.

3. Iowa hasn't played that many dynamic offenses like ours, so there's a chance that our offensive style outclasses their stout defense.

4. Weather seems to be a bigger factor to our offensive style compared to their offensive style, so if the weather is bad, it probably favors Iowa.

I agree, and the only concern I have regarding #3 is they've shut out Maryland and Illinois which are the most comparable running games to ours in my mind. Obviously we can pass much better than those teams, but to your fourth point the weather may cancel out that advantage. Wisconsin and (surprisingly) Northwestern are the only teams to have much success running on them. Don't know how NW did, but I think we need to hit a few passes to have much of a running game.

Regardless of the weather and how Iowa's defense compares to MSU, I expect to score more than 9 points. Martinez seemed a little off all day, and maybe you can chalk that up to the weather and defense but I expect him to be his usual self this week. We're not putting up 50, but I think we can score.

I'm more worried about our defense, Iowa's line doesn't seem great this year but my understanding is it's way better than MSU's. The safeties are going to need to show up again, they are going to get bodies on the LBs a lot. At least I don't think Chinander will ask our DL to just stand there and get destroyed by the zone blocking, some run blitzes and penetration will be helpful.

I learned our defense likely would have been quite a bit better this year if Reed hadn't injured his shoulder. He's a beast when he's healthy and in the right spot. 

We really need some athletes at receiver to step up next year, one threat in the passing game doesn't cut it. 

9 minutes ago, everybody knows my name said:

 

Oh sure, OUR quarterback isn't like OTHER quarterbacks!

7 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

Um, Frost was an Option Quarterback, not some pansy pocket passer like the Big Ten featured when Frost played.

 

Frost played Safety in the NFL. His first coaching gig was with the linebackers.

 

 

This is 100% true.

More evidence, this should start at 1:50:

26 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

Fritz is a baby, the second he takes a hit he will pull the UFC "he gouged my eye" shtick to get a breather.

He was the first two-time winner of both the Nagurski Trophy and Bednarik award, and two-time consensus All-American. I have no problem voting Frost, but unless Fitz got real soft since then he deserves a little more credit than that.

I would pay to watch a Frost v. Fitzgerald fight - I'd give Frost the edge present day, but Fitz back in the '90s. They're actually about the same age (1 month apart), and they're both big, tough dudes so it would be a fun matchup. Most of these guys were QBs, so I've gotta put prime-Lovie, Fitzgerald, and Frost ahead. Obviously Frost was a QB as well, but as others have mentioned playing Safety in the NFL sets you apart from a lot of other QBs.

It's great to see Prince getting some love, I think he's always been underrated in the NFL. Injuries had something to do with that of course, nice to see him healthy.

9 minutes ago, 4skers89 said:

I had the same question as Moiraine so it seems like it would be a FAQ, yet it’s not on their FAQ list. I emailed them asking if they use only film that is broadcast or if they have access to other film.  If they don’t respond then I think it’s safe to  assume they only use what is broadcast and their grading should be taken FWIW. 

I wouldn't be sure of the bolded part whether they respond or not, but no metric is perfect. Seems like they account for a lot of things standard metrics and stats ignore, but I'm sure there are things they miss. Fun to look at in any case, and I think it's accurate enough that more players on the list means we are in fact playing better.

I'd also like to see Deontai on the field, I'm curious what's holding him back. He'll definitely have his chance next year though, I'm excited to see what the defense looks like in year 2.

1 hour ago, LumberJackSker said:

Either way i doubt frost is going to use scholarships specialists. Might give them a scholarship for their last couple years if they excel.

Unless this kid misunderstood and it's actually a walk-on offer, it appears he will offer scholarships to specialists.

https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/recruiting/huskers-give-north-carolina-punter-ben-kiernan-his-first-scholarship/

Unless you meant long snappers specifically, I don't know why anyone would do that. Nothing against Ober, but I don't think anyone else offered him a scholarship. It's easy enough to find decent snappers, even if he was better the difference isn't worth a scholarship spot.

11 hours ago, wiuhusker said:

Are these grades based purely on passing numbers or the position as a whole? If it is purely passing how the hell is AJ Bush that high?

 

Also, captain obvious here,  but we got ourselves a good one folks.  

It says passing grades, so I'd assume at least the designed runs are taken out. There were a lot of drops, and from what I know of PFF those count for the QB almost as much as if they were caught.  But yeah, 68.5 seems high.. and definitely feels like that shouldn't ever be the 5th best in the conference. There were some baaaad games though:

Sitkowski (Rutgers): 8/19, 40 yards, 0 TD 1 INT

Lewerke/Lombardi (MSU) 18/48, 220 yards, 0 TD 1 INT

Coan (Wisconsin): 9/20, 60 yards, 0 TD 2 INT

Thorson (NW): 15/30, 122 yards, 1 TD 2 INT

Blough (Purdue): 20/31, 142 yards, 1 TD 0 INT

I think they also get less credit for short passes that the receiver turns into a big gain, so a drag route that goes for 60 doesn't pull up their rating much. But at a glance, Bush's 11/25, 126 yards, 0 TD 2 INT doesn't seem a lot better than the list above.

4 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

Where was this mentioned?

It wasn't - I had to know after voting so I looked them up. Hopefully not ruining the poll, but I think per game numbers are more important than the total so voters may want to be aware of that.

1 minute ago, Undone said:

 

What? I'm going off of Cdog's original stats in his original post. 

They haven't played the same number of games though, those are all totals.

21 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

So lets see who has grown the most this season. Lets see just the last 4 games stats

None of them are that far off their totals -

Last 4 games

QB 1: 83/128 (65%) 976 yards 7 TDs 0 INTs 38 yards rushing (2.1 ypc) 82.5 Avg QBR

QB 2: 86/118 (73%) 1045 yards 9 TDs 2 INTs 245 yards rushing (4.9 ypc) 78.3 Avg QBR

QB 3: 70/98 (71%) 997 yards 9 TDs 1 INT 169 yards rushing (3.6 ypc)  82.6 Avg QBR

4 minutes ago, Undone said:

QB 2, based mainly on how many yards he's helping your team gain. More yards hopefully translates into more touchdowns in total and also hopefully translates into being more likely to dominate field position.

Worth pointing out total yards per game is actually in favor of QB 3. I feel like at this point it's getting easier to pick out exactly who they are based on some of the added context that goes with the per game, and since I'm not the OP I don't want to completely spoil things. But I do want to point out the first post is total numbers, not per game.

1 minute ago, DefenderAO said:

#2 because if it’s who I think, he has three more years to grow 

Not sure if it's still supposed to be a secret or if this gives too much away, but all 3 are freshman. So while I don't disagree with you, they all have time to grow.

3 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I havnt watched them at all this year. Do they have a better D-Line that Ohio State?

I would say so but it really depends on what you mean by "better." Ohio State's line is absolutely more talented. But MSU has talent, and they've definitely been more consistent than OSU.