FrantzHardySwag

1 minute ago, Treand3 said:

Chryst seemed relieved they won despite our foolerey

I thought Wisconsin didn’t play well. I have a buddy that’s a Wisconsin fan that thought they played terrible and the play calls were so vanilla and they still sleepwalked to 320 rushing yards and 35+ points. My guess Chryst message was “we play like that against a good team like Minnesota and we lose”.

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Lol this is such a dumb take and I don’t know get how people think this way 

I think diaco got everyone trigger shy haha. But there are so many examples of guys like Fleck and Dabo and Coach O cutting dead weight and it making ALL then difference.

2 minutes ago, SFW said:

I think frost knows he needs a change at DC .

 

He just said that they need to get better on their staff.  Also said if they could hold people under 30 they might have something.

 

I think he knows.

I think how bad our defense is effects his play calling. Knowing you need 35+ points and you can’t kick the ball puts extreme pressure on the offense. They need to be elite just to give us a shot at winning.

3 minutes ago, HuskerNation1 said:

 

I am still waiting for you to reply to my question in the Gameday thread to provide statistic evidence of Chin running a stout defense as a Defensive Coordinator.  You seem very into defending him anytime he is questioned.  I am simply asking for some statistical data to back that up.  

What, being grouped with Rutgers and Maryland in every major defensive category within the conference isn’t good enough? Allowing 30+ points in 6/7 conference games isn’t gonna cut it?

3 minutes ago, TheSker said:

But Chinander!!!

Offense has had issues but at least there is potential. Defense has just been s#!t, without potential. At least we can look at stats like that and say, we’re almost there, just one fix away. 

Guys our offense will be solid. Offensive line has made strides and will continue to. A true QB battle will do wonders. WR will improve this offseason with Betts and a JUCO kid. Mills and Wandale back. Someone tell how our defense will be better, because I don’t see anything that tells me they’ll figure it out. 

I see so many glimpses on offense. Frost will get it figured out. Once he does expect a lot of 38-35 type games because we still won’t stop a runny nose on defense. What ever you do well on offense, just do it against us and you’ll score 30+ in your sleep. 

Wisconsin did exactly what they wanted to do on Offense. 320+ rushing yards?  Chin sucks a$$. 

Hickman moving up the Depth Chart is encouraging. Regardless of their star rating and position, if they are gonna be more effective - play em. 0 Star Kade Warner is better then a 4 star? Who cares play em. TE recruit better blocking and route running then the WRs? Who cares play em. Cam Taylor a freshman but gonna give 100% every play? Play em. Garrett Nelson gonna make freshman mistakes but run around like a madman? Play em. 

I still say bowl game be damned, if they are gonna get more effort and set the tone culture wise with these dudes that are rough around the edges - play em. I think the most frustrating part of this season isn't that we've played poorly, it's that we get the culture talk every week but see the same faces every week. Nebraska fans will embrace a hard working team that loses games long before they'll embrace a talented team that loafs. 

If the talent on the roster is the biggest problem, then are we better off going 1-2 to end the season? Let the coaches get an extra few weeks of recruiting in, try and get the talent level to the point where we can compete in the B1G west next year? If these guys on the roster aren’t gonna cut it, what’s the use of the extra couple weeks of practice? 

2 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:

Then you keep saying things like if he can't make the tough decisions then ......

 

PPG allowed 2017-36.4 114th

                        2018-33.3 94th 

                        2019-29.1 72nd 

 

Total Defense 2017-94th

                          2018-92nd

                          2019-65th

 

Rushing D 2017-108th

                   2018-94th

                   2019-77th

 

Passing D 2017-55th(30 attempts pg)

                   2018-76th(35 attempts pg)

                   2019-71st(33 attempts pg)

Only statistic we are worse in

 

Sacks 2017-117th

            2018-82nd

            2019-65th

 

Passer rating 2017-91st

                         2018-34th

                         2019-47th

 

Takeaways 2017-115th

                     2018-62nd

                     2019-54th

 

Yards per play 2017-109th

                           2018-78th

                           2019-58th

Do you have the numbers for 3rd down defense and redzone defense? 

9 minutes ago, alexhortdog95 said:

 

HOW has the defense improved?  Help me out, cause when I look at the scoreboard, I'm not seeing it.

 

I don’t get that either. I guess maybe in a couple national statistical categories we have improved a couple spots. But man 33 points per game in conf play - that’s including our game against one of the worst P5 offenses of all time. 38 points per game against conf teams with a pulse. If your defensive is giving up 33+ points a game in conf play, you’re not gonna sniff the top of your division. 

3 hours ago, Igetbored216 said:

It would also help tremendously to find a couple OLBs that can get after the passer. I think this defense would look pretty different with just this addition

Probably he hardest position to secure. There ain’t a lot of those dudes and everyone wants them. Our LB recruiting is a concern. 

3 minutes ago, BoNeyard said:

Main point, he was a defender for a Big12 team.

Top 15 Big 12 team. Daniels seems like stand up dude and has been pretty damn good at the nose. 

11 minutes ago, BoNeyard said:

Weeks ago someone said it pretty well. Or best defensive player on the line and captain on the line is a transfer from Oklahoma State who didnt even start at Oklahoma State, a Big12 defense.

 

that says a lot.

He started 10 games in 2017 then got hurt in 2018....

7 minutes ago, BoNeyard said:

At Oregon it wasn't Chindander's 3-4 though because Chinander wasn't the DC at Oregon.

 

I think more accurate is to say Chinander took what was being ran at Oregon to UCF. 

Where do you think Chin came up with his defense? I don't even know what we're arguing. All I have been saying is Chin runs Nick Aliotti's 3-4 Defense, and that very same defense in 2015 was exposed the same fashion we have been this season. Can it be fixed? Sure. 

"Chinander spent one more year at UNI, then took a leap of faith, becoming a defensive intern at Oregon under then-Ducks defensive coordinator Nick Aliotti.

“He picked things up fast,” said Aliotti, who was Oregon’s defensive coordinator for 17 years. “He got it. He related it well to players. Erik did any and everything I gave him to do, and it was always done quickly and correctly.”

It was at Oregon where Chinander embraced the 3-4. Aliotti ran it, of course, but his boss — coach Chip Kelly — wouldn’t have let him run much else. Kelly, perhaps prescient, wanted a defense that could stop his own offense, Chinander said this summer on the Husker Nation tour."

"So Chinander became steeped in the ways of the 3-4. He was a defensive graduate assistant for two years after the internship. Then Chinander followed Kelly to the Philadelphia Eagles for a year. He came back to Oregon in 2014, followed Frost to UCF in 2016 and found a program broken by an 0-12 season."

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

And how did switching to Brady Hokes 4-3 work out for them? Maybe the scheme wasn't the problem considering it was working until Chip Kelley left

Look I really don't wanna argue the 4-3 and the 3-4 because there is so much more to it. People seemed to not understand who is responsible for what in our 3-4 and I wanted to provide a decent resource for it. And I added it the stuff about Oregon's 3-4 being exposed at the end of Chin's time there because it mirrors the same problems we are currently having. I'm not advocating we hire Brady Hoke or anything.

1 minute ago, Nebfanatic said:

Chinander was the DC at Oregon and his real name is Nick? 

No but this is the defense we run? 

https://fishduck.com/the-oregon-football-repository-by-fishduck-com/the-oregon-football-analysis-library-by-fishduck-com/specifically-for-the-coaches-from-coaches/specifically-for-the-coaches-defense-from-coaches/specifically-for-the-coaches-the-3-4-defense-2/specifically-for-the-coaches-the-3-4-defense/

 ^Good resource for people wanting to learn about OUR 3-4. Oregon ended up scrapping our version of the 3-4 the year Frost went to UCF. It's completely possible if Chin wasn't taken with Frost, he would have been let go by Oregon. The issues they scrapped it? Awful 3rd down and red zone efficiency and inability to step the shallow passing routes.

7 minutes ago, SFW said:

The main defensive problem is the 3-4 that we run.  It takes 3 all world studs up front to be competitive.   If not your linebackers and safeties are get killed by B10 lineman.  

It takes 3 guys who can do their job. Not all world studs. This board needs to get it out of their head that our 3-4 DL need to be anything but dudes who free up the LBs. The most tackles a Wisconsin D lineman has is 18 and the most sacks a Wisconsin D lineman has is 3. 

DL is so far down the list of problems on this team.

13 minutes ago, Treand3 said:

 

He can recruit too.

Honestly a veteran set of eyes would do a lot for this defense. Need to identify where they have problems in scheme and talent - and put a plan together to fix it. Especially eyes that have seen it done at places like Wisconsin and LSU - probably a pipe dream.

3 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

 

Haha isn't it? I couldn't believe it at first when I looked it up. 

LSU fans after today saying "worth every penny". Beating Bama is good for everyones checkbook.

2 minutes ago, WyoHusker56 said:

LSU is paying Aranda 2.5 million per year. Let's offer him 3 mill a year to be an analyst and teach Chin! 

Just hire Bill Busch, he's a Nebraska dude with more experience in a 3-4 then anyone on our defensive staff. Gonna be a lot cheaper than 2.5 mil! That salary is insane BTW.

2 minutes ago, Treand3 said:

 

This actually a solid observation.

Chin had 2 years as a college OLB coach. In the 2nd year Oregon Defense was historically bad. 35+ ppg bad - same Oregon team that got out to a 31-0 lead in the Alamo bowl then allowed 31 straight 2nd half points (sound familiar) to TCU and lost in OT. Chin just hasn’t had time under elite DCs, that’s why we’re in for a lot of growing pains. Wisconsin on the other hand went Aranda, Justin Wilcox, Leonard...the pedigree and blueprint are miles ahead of us.

36 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

 

Dave Aranda coaches for LSU.

Yeah I know, ,he brought the 3-4 to Wisconsin and his guys carried it on. His fingerprints are all over that defense. 

Watching Wisconsin you can tell the engineer behind their 3-4 is Dave Aranda. Just like you can tell the engineer behind our 3-4 is Don Pellum. Same defense, soooooooo differently executed.