FrantzHardySwag

Can we all agree now to never be as big of a$$hole$ as Tennessee fans. Lord, they just may have given their own program

the death penalty.

It was one piece of s#!t. His own fans are calling him out on that garbage. 

Just now, lo country said:

IIRC, he also caught Frost's first pass while they were teammates there....

Hopefully a fact we hear again in the 2020 college football playoff game. 

1 minute ago, Sker4Ever said:

Agreed. He may be 1b for me

He grew up around Stanford, His dad coached at Stanford, he played at Stanford and he's spent most of his career coaching at Stanford. He's a lifer there.

1 minute ago, 614Husker said:

12-1.  Plus he went directly to another mid major before and went back to his average ways before Michigan thought something different would happen.

 

I won't stop using career averages that are substantial b/c they tell a great story.  It should have prevented the last three years from ever happening.

Nick Saban averaged 5 losses at year at Michigan State DO NOT WANT.  Harbaugh averaged 5 losses at Stanford DO NOT WANT.  You Frost or bust people are unbearable right now. Is Frost our best option? Probably. Is he our only option? Absolutely not.

11 minutes ago, 614Husker said:

I suggest you fact check b/c Hoke never led an undefeated season at a mid major.  in fact in 8 seasons at mid major level, he averaged 6.25 losses per season.  Wonder why he never worked out...

My point is the back up option is no better than randomly drawing from a hat of names.

He had a 12-0 regular season at ball state. And i know he didn't work out, that was my point. Stop using win/loss percentages to define entire coahing tenures and use your eyes.

3 minutes ago, 614Husker said:

ok Mike Riley.  Then settle if you wish.  Can't wait to see what he can do with all the resources in Nebraska.

Apples to Oranges. Is Scott Frost Brady Hoke because he also had a mid major team undeafted?

1 minute ago, 614Husker said:

Again,  to me it's Frost or bust.  Why?  When Urban Meyer was hired by Florida, he averaged exactly 2 losses a season.  When he was hired by OSU, he averaged 1.5 losses per season at Florida. Compare that to Riley who averaged 4.5 losses per season at Oregon State before being hired.  Well, in three season he gave us an average of 6.3 losses.  

 

Matt Campbell:  Really after one decent year at Iowa State Moos wants to bring him in? FFS.  They just lost to Kansas State apparently b/c of game management issues.  He only won 7 games.  And in 6 seasons total averages 4.8 losses a season at Toledo and Iowa State.  This coach, no matter how good or how young, has done nothing to suggest he can make Nebraska a perennial 9-12 win team. 

 

Kevin Sumlin:  Ok...when Sumlin was hired by Texas A&M, he averaged 4.25 losses a season at Houston.  What do they get?  At Texas A&M, he then averages 4.16 losses per season.  Shocking...

 

Dan Mullen - Dude averages 5.1 losses per season.  No thanks, second coming of Mike Riley.

 

JUSTIN FUENTE - Ok, now my controversial commentary.  The contrarian's favorite here averaged 5.75 losses per season at Memphis.  Combine that with Virginia Tech and he's averaging exactly 5 losses per season.  No thanks left field Justin Fuente.  Take your averageness and keep it in Blacksburg where you are a hero.

 

This is why I want all eggs in on Frost.  Dude is coming off massive success this season.  Home grown.  Knows Nebraska.  I think his upside gives us the best chance to contend for 9-12 wins per season.  We get AVERAGE with all of the candidates listed above.  With Frost, we have a chance to really get the lightning in a bottle we so badly need...but then turn that into sustained success. 

 

There is no other option.  

Campbell took over an Iowa state team that was 4-23 in the Big 12 prior to his arrival. I know 7-5 isn't a sexy record, but you'd be hard pressed to find another coach in the county that would get Iowa State bowl eligible in 2 years.

I know people want Frost but the names we've been hearing have me at ease. If we end up with Frost, Campbell or Fuente, this search will have ended swimmingly compared to the last one.

Highly doubt we hear about a press conf before a team meeting. If Riley is fired, players will arrive at the facility and be notified first. 

This will be a terrible opinion on here, but is it possible that Frost is putting Moos in a bad spot? If he plays the waiting game and doesn't choose us, aren't we kinda boned and he leaves Moos holding his you know what?

31 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

I’m of the opinion that winners will win anywhere.  Some people are able to win in some place or circumstances, but no others.  This is what separates good coaches from great ones.  I think Leach could win anywhere. I think he would make this a top 10 program.  I’m not convinced we’d be championship caliber, but he would turn it around.

 

Ive stated previously that I would take Leach if Frost passed.  That being said, Moos has talked about “fit” in his interviews and presser.  I don’t think he’d work with the strong portion of our fanbase.

 

Hes a strange ranger.  I’d love it...most wouldn’t.

I could see how he would rub people the wrong way, but he absolutely cracks me up. Definitely would be down to see him in Lincoln if Frost said no. 

1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Moos knows what's at stake. He knows it's Frost or bust. There simply is no alternative. We desperately need him to unify the fan base and to get this program rejuvenated. I fully expect Moos to come through. 

I guess I don't under stand this "Frost or Bust" sentiment. If he says No to our best offer, do we show up with a van and duct tap? A lot of fans are gonna make this job significantly harder if our next coach is not named Scott Frost. 

2 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

Leach runs a Frankenstein offense that relies on big plays, it would not do well here.  Just my opinion.

 

What are you talking about proven B1G winner?  And yes my assumption is he would win less games as our coach than he could at Tech and Wazzu.  I can't give you proof of this since it's me being skeptical of a hypothetical hire.

You referenced that you didn't like Grinch because he's doing it against Pac12 defenses. Chinander is putting up his defense stats against AAC schools, there is going to be a risk with whoever we bring in. I won't write off Grinch or Chinander because of their leagues, they can adapt.

Not being a dick, I'm generally curious, if not Frost who would be on your short list?

19 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

How has that West Coast style worked for the last 3 years against the Big Ten?  And that stud DC is defending against PAC12 teams.  Pass heavy offense VS Big Ten is a recipe for disaster, see NU 2017.

 

 

Let me elaborate then.  He would cone in with his wonky offense.  It would take minimum 2-3 years to see it start working.  Meanwhile, whatever DC he hires would have to scrap year 1 after realizing tbe Big Ten is harder physically, year 2 start over etc.  At best, we see more 8-9 win seasons.  That's his ceiling at a place like this, I promise. At Tech he had a fertile amount of athletes to really churn out yards and points, at Wazzu it's just now starting to click but it still isn't fully there.

 

And from a cultural standpoint he wouldn't like this job IMO, likewise this fanbase wouldn't like him.  It's a bad fit, just like Bielma would be.

Good thing Leach doesn't run the WCO. Frost is tearing up AAC teams, you have to take chances - We're not gonna get a proven B1G winner right now. So Leach's ceiling is lower at Nebraska than it is at WSU and TT?

2 minutes ago, Redux said:

Leach needs a unique situation to succeed.  He also needs a program that doesn't require much defensively.  Neither of those apply to Nebraska, it wouldn't go well.

I tend to disagree. Listen Frost would be first on my list, but Leach would be top 3 on my list as well. Leach can have a top notch offense anywhere he goes (like Frost), and Leach has finally found himself a stud DC in Grinch. I think Leach would be very successful in Lincoln. Its a shame people see air-raid and dismiss it. Leach doesn't run an offense that requires top 10 recruiting classes to be successful, in a sense I think that's exactly what Nebraska needs. I know people will be dismissive because its not Frost - but it's at least an interesting discussion to have.

Just now, krc1995 said:

If the deal is not somewhat finalized, maybe his agent delays knowing that they have leverage of the multiple coaching vacanceys to come?  Maybe we don't hear by Saturday or whenever UCF's last game is.  

Leverage pretty heavy on Frost side. Things are gonna pick up across the board here soon though. Gonna be a fun couple of weeks for CFB fans.

7 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

Our big money boosters don't care. 

Frosts agent probably knows that too. Gonna be a fat contract. 

1 minute ago, krc1995 said:

WHen you say "drive the price up"  by like how much?  I've asked before, it was not popular, but how much is too much?  I don't know if Frost is worth as much to anyone but Oregon, Central Florida, and  Nebraska.  I really think that deal is done- just my gut 

I would guess near 6 million. Like in the NFL, the highest paid player isn't the best, just the one that negotiates his contract most recently. 

21 minutes ago, BoneyardHusker said:

Of these schools who would be the real threat though to land Frost besides us? I wouldn't touch any school in the SEC West. If Florida couldn't land Frost I don't see how FSU could. My only concerns would be Oregon and UCF.

Oregon, Florida and UCF in that order. They most certainly will drive up the price for him. 

1 minute ago, krc1995 said:

Why would Fisher leave FSU?  And wow, the domino effect is scary 

This seems absolutely chaotic. UCLA, Florida and an unnamed school pursuing Chip. A&M pursuing Jimbo. Arkansas, Nebraska, Ole Miss, FSU, Oregon all could be looking for coaches as well. This is gonna be a crazy couple of weeks. Frost hasn't signed s#!t or else his agent is an idiot. He could have 8 offers on his desk by the end of the week. 

The feeling I'm getting after listening to Severe, Bishop and Peterson today and reading Dirks article is - none of the local media has inside info, none of them know what Frost is thinking and they feel it's roughly a 50/50 toss up if he's coming home. We know nothing. 

1 minute ago, tyrone_biggums said:

this is information only the real Damon Benning would know. Love the show, DB.

Wouldn't only be an extra week? Seeing as we are stuck with not knowing this week anyways.

Yes, but i meant 13 days from now. Don't get me wrong  I will still check this thread on the regular, its just depressing thinking about two solid weeks of zero information will be added to 168 pages of zero information.

So if UCF wins this Friday, were looking at 13 days more of not knowing what SF will do. 13 days of messageboard rumors. 13 days of cryptic tweets.