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6 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Just last night On3 predicted Miami to be where he ends up now we are favorite to land him.  Boy do things change in a hurry.

So wait until tomorrow.

7 minutes ago, GSG said:

 

He'd have to regress pretty far to be as bad as what we fielded at QB last year

All bets are off when you have free rushers coming at you.

16 minutes ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Is their a qb you prefer other then McCord that you think could be the answer?? Ward or Howard???

I am simply saying QB isn't the only issue. I am not in the camp that thinks a QB instantly gets us from 5 wins to 10.

Ward seems to like to go off script and make hero plays whoch is great sometimes, but he turns it over some also. He seems like a great fit for OSU as they need that to put them over the top, as they have everything else already. Howard seems like a solid fit for us, and I am not seeing the fit at USC for him. McCord could fit, but he will need others to take the next step, we need another WR, and his numbers still probably won't match his last year at Ohio State.  I am not sure we sign any of the top ranked guys though if they are 1 and done, we aren't set up to be an NFL springboard at QB yet, it all depeneds on what an individual wants. If NIL, fan support, and just helping a program take the next step is enough we could. If plyaing in the playoff/being a top 15 team and going to the NFL via a ready made situation are goals then we can't win that.

Honestly I'd be happy with Howard or McCord, but I am not expecting either to be a savior. We need consistent development to be competitive, and people saying we can get to 9-10 wins with a QB are downplaying just how easy the schedule was this year.  Things also never stay exactly the same year over year, so saying we just have to add one piece and keep the rest the same isn't going to happen. Some things improve, some get worse every year.

26 minutes ago, lo country said:

Odd they went after Sims as their must "get" last year and now McCord (or other more traditional QB's). Two opposite styles for sure.  I don't think Satt was really ever a QB run game guy.  Im guessing Rhule is smart enough to look at potential QB's and what they can do with what we have and who else is coming in.  I just can't believe that we are now on year 7 with no bowl game....

I think they truly believed Sims could bridge the gap, run when you have to but be able to make every throw they wanted.  He is definitely capable of making every throw a QB needs to, but that isn't enough to play QB. That's why guys who can't make all the throws still can be good QBs, at least in college. It just didn't work out with Sims. I'm not convinced McCord is the answer, but he is much closer to what they want than what's on the roster. He will just need help, and the supporting cast is a step down from Ohio State. Hopefully everyone else can level up and maybe a Julian Fleming comes with him to be the default #1 WR as that's what he wants it appears. We have good supporting WR, could work out ok.

9 minutes ago, lo country said:

Dude can sling it for sure.  I'm guessing we'd go away from any type of QB run game with him.  But so long as we start winning I could care less tbh....Just win baby.

I don't know if they ever truly wanted a QB run game. Simply playing the cards that were dealt with the offensive personnel on the team.

Just now, BigRedBuster said:

Admittedly, there are obviously people within the programs that know way more than me.

 

The questions I have, does the football team want him to cut that much weight?  If not, will he be able to put back on the weight (as good weight) before football next year?  What football workouts is he not doing while wrestling and how can that affect his performance next year?  And...yes, I recognize that wrestling can also help with working on balance, leverage...etc when playing football.  I like linemen that wrestled in HS because of this.

 

I've just never noticed a player doing this really helping in the main sport they play.

I can agree if he really has to cut that much weight. To be honest, I've never believed the weights (or heights) they list are all that accurate. Stemming from my college days and interacting with guys in classes that were clearly not what was listed.  My initial reaction was it would be good from the balance and leverage side as you mentioned also.

1 hour ago, Hayseed said:

Watch McCord, he’s allusive and still is able to see the field…. Unlike a bunch of our recent QBs who look for two seconds then run for their life.

I don't think DL will care how much he suggests or hints things to them, they'll still sack him. 

50 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

He's free to do what he wants and I hope he's successful in both.  But, I'm not really a fan of this, as a football fan.

 

I wonder if, after he's done playing football for Nebraska, he really would rather not do the NFL and keep wrestling.  

Why are you not a fan?

11 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

But if he’s first round he gets a good signing bonus which essentially guarantees two years of that contract because of the salary cap 

 

NIL is only 1 yr guaranteed 

From what I have heard, NIL is nothing fully guaranteed.  This doesn't seem like a question, if you can be a 1st round pick, you absolutely go. 

43 minutes ago, Xmas32 said:

 

 

One of the worst artists in the history of music 

I was shocked to see Nebraska a road favorite in a conference game. Still too soon for that I see.

1 hour ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Is it really hard to say Adrian wasn't that good???

It's not hard to say that, it is just wrong. 

1 hour ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

I think it really depends on how the qb is getting used.  At Kansas State Adrian wasn't asked to be the whole offense like he was asked at Nebraska.  

You just answered your own question. 

Just now, Husker in WI said:

 

I agree with you in general, but one of the major injuries for TM was because his 270 lb walk-on Center got bulldozed onto his foot IIRC. And the 2018 line rounded into form pretty well once Farmer moved to Center - but for the rest of Adrian's career it was a bad line.

Walk on?! Of course.....

20 minutes ago, caveman99 said:

While I understand the COVID season was odd, I don’t think you can just erase it completely. Norvell started building his culture, team processes and structure, installed his systems, hired out his coaching staff, conducted talent assessment and recruiting that had continuity into 2021, conducted team practices, etc. All of that matters, plus he also coached games that mattered regardless of how odd that season was. Those games allowed him to continue to develop his players, see what was working and what wasn’t, as well as identify what roster/coaching holes he needed to fill. IMO getting to 10 wins in 2022 doesn't happen if he is hired in 2021. 
 

That being said, Norvell did show progress from 2020 to 2021 getting to 5 wins and increasing their conference win total to 4 from 2. It is completely fair to expect and improvement in record in year 2 under Rhule, but I expect year 3 and beyond to be when hopefully the Huskers are competing for playoff spots and double digit wins year-in and year-out.

Fair, but it was far from a complete year.  Call 2021 year 1.5 and 2022 2.5, but we agree that he showed progress every year.  I was just pushing back against the perception that it took him until year 3 to show his chops, and that isn't true. 

2 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

Yeah. Healthy Taylor Martinez was getting legit Heisman buzz.

 

It's a pretty sharp drop-off after him. It'd have been interesting to see Adrian play behind a line that could protect him. And Ganz with more time with the 1s in practice.

Adrian had a better arm, Taylor was a better runner.  Put AM on that same team and the results would be largely the same if I had to wager.  These questions always make me chuckle because a lot of it can be outside the control of the QB to what legacy they leave.   Adrian had PTSD after 2018 from playing behind these lines, Taylor had great lines, on and on.

4 hours ago, caveman99 said:

This is Norvell’s 4th season at FSU, he was hired before the 2020 season.

 

2020 - 3-5

2021 - 5-7

2022 - 10-3

2023 - 13-0

So legitimately 2021 was year 1 for him.  Covid was a lost year, and his year 2 was 10-3 and year 3 was 13-0.  Still a case of good coaches are on the up by year 2, and sure as hell don't take until year 4 or 5 to show progress!

3 hours ago, nic said:

Hmm. I honestly thought the bowls chose based on eyeballs and attendance. In which case, NU is the smarter choice. 

For the ones who actually qualify yes, but it has been APR to fill extra slots for as long as I can remember.  Nebraska got in this way in 2015.

7 hours ago, Decoy73 said:

Volleyball Day was an accomplishment that no AD has done, ever.  

Let's be real, cheer the fans for that one, not any administrator.  Kudos to the AD for actually doing it but no other place on Earth has fans that show up 92k strong for a women's sport period, let alone a regular season match.

5 hours ago, gossamorharpy said:

I just wanna say thank you to Samaje Perine one more time for breaking melvin gordon's record set against us a mere week after being embarrassed by wiscy on national tv.  

 

Seriously.  I am a Bronco fan, and had to deal with Gordon fumbling every 5th snap for us a couple years ago, but now get to root for Samaje.  Continued to deal with those feelings recently. 

32 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

I suppose the likelyhood of success if solely looking at athletic ability (speed, strength, explosiveness, quickness) would be higher at a lower level.  If you run faster or jump higher I guess it could be an 'easier' playing field.  For example, there's a girl at Wesleyan that ran track and Nebraska.  She transferred and is now a D3 national champion.

 

Many of the characteristics that make a good QB are skill driven or even between the ears.  Sims issues don't appear to be athletic related.  Because you're in FCS it doesn't all the sudden mean evaluating a defense is easier.  Eluding a rush doesn't become easier because you're playing South Dakota State.

The stuff between the ears doesn't necessarily become super easy, but I would argue the physical part is quite different. It should be much easier to elude a rush against South Dakota State.  There's a reason those kids aren't starting for Ohio State.  He can win being more physically gifted at a lower level is what I am getting at, making the mental part less important.

4 hours ago, Akees said:

Sipple says that Sam Leavitt (MSU) has interest in Nebraska. Would be a Redshirt Freshman next year. Former 4* recruit.

1 hour ago, twofittyonred said:

PASS

Hey now. Didn't he throw a touchdown to beat Nebraska? I was in the stands for that glorious completion, his only of the game.

In all seriousness, you only know that a handful are really good college QBs based on production they've already had, and those guys will be fought over heavily. Some might have been products of their old systems however, or of their old coaching staffs. Less experienced transfers might flourish in a new setting, and with new coaching.  We basically can't predict what will happen.

7 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

How often does this happen?  Specifically with QBs.

 

They go down to FCS or D2 and just light the world on fire (dominate).  You're still going to get pressured.  Your receivers are still going to be covered.  You probably still going to throw picks.

It happens much slower though, that's the idea. No guarantee of success, but you have to admit it's easier in FCS or D2.

19 minutes ago, Caliborn72 said:

 

Reuniting with Tony in LA???

Meh.

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Maybe I missed it, but isn't Jeff Sims eligible to play another year? And doesn't everyone agree, Jeff Sims included, that he probably should never take the field again? And can we congratulate Hendrick Haarberg on stepping in, having to learn quick, and getting three wins while also agreeing there's probably no place on the QB depth chart for him? And for that matter, give Chubba Purdy props for playing pretty well for 2.25 games while hoping he is not our best hope for next season?

 

If so, when and how does Rhule give these guys his honest appraisal of their chances next season?  He said all the diplomatic things to the press, but does he really think HH or Purdy can still be groomed, or should any QB coming through the portal get the job by default?  

I think he knows HH is not a QB, and he tells him that.  I think Purdy stays and gets a legit shot, with competition from a portal QB and a freshman. Purdy still has potential and has the tools to succeed.