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My hope will be that Chins is gone by Tuesday's press conference.  That subtraction will be an addition itself.  

10 minutes ago, krc1995 said:

“Win the line of scrimmage”.   One of Alberts goals for the program. The only specific football goal he listed. Hell yeah! 

So shines a good word.  This is our only hope ... true belief in this view.

Of course he cared.

He simply didn't have the goods.

6 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

Why the f#&% not?

He tried his absolute best. There is not another single person on the planet that cares about the football program more than he does. He simply couldn’t get the job done. It wasn’t for lack of caring or trying.

 

I’ll stop there cuz anything else I have to say to this asinine comment will get me banned.

Scott got paid very well for all his coachspeak.  He also got the full support and the benefit to any doubt for far longer than any coach would or has ever gotten.

Getting fired and put out of his misery was compassion ... and he gets paid even more money.  

It's not an asinine comment at all.  Scott actually won today and got rewarded.

I wish him well and he will be just fine.  His coachspeak will live on in infamy.

46 minutes ago, Dansker said:

I feel horrible for Frost. It’s never fun to hear this kind of news. However, this is the nature of the beast. It’s a results driven business. I’m excited to see what Mickey can do. If the players play hard for him, run through a wall for him. He could do what SF couldn’t— produce a winning season.

I'll never feel horrible for Frost.

Dear God, make Chins a bird, so he can fly away ... far, far away.

I respect the hell out of this.  It was due a couple of years ago.

3 minutes ago, Crusader Husker said:

Trev is a genius.  He unified Husker Nation.  Everyone now wants him gone!

Actually, there is still a good proportion who will be hopeful and believe the coachspeak.

That's a really good football team there.  Really proud or our kids.  They just came up a but short today.

You just gotta get creative if you want to win in this league.

21 minutes ago, JJ Husker said:

Chins should be gone tomorrow. They can wait until October for Frost cuz there’s no saving this s#!tshow anyway.

 Not at all.  That's a really good football team there.  We just need to get a few things cleaned up.  The kids are playing hard.

10 minutes ago, Big red surfers said:

A lot of this is coaching guaranteed urban could get six wins out of this team easily right now Scott frost is good for threeA lot of this is coaching guaranteed urban could get six wins out of this team easily right now Scott frost is good for three

I'm game @Big red surfers.   What three games?

This is exciting now!  Should be a show.

2 minutes ago, man eating mastodon said:

Iowa is not good.  Boos are getting loud 

That doesn't bode well for us at all.  They have sucked the last 8 years.  :-)

7 hours ago, M.A. said:

How rational are we humans though! That's largely an emotional shift. I would add this, in general us online folks are less optimistic and often more critical (Including me). Very few of the people I've spoken with in person that had us winning int the 7-10 range have changed their predictions to 2-3. Casual observers typically are a bit more optimistic. The optimism has took a hit for sure though across the board. A majority are thinking around five wins. That's the camp I'm in at present. A few 6-7 and a few 3-4. A minority think eight or more. 

 

Say I worked for you. There's an issue I'm critical about. It's sort of rough to digest. Yet, in my mind loyalty is being upfront with you. To provide you accurate information to the very best of my knowledge in a professional, respectful way. That's my SOP. Another person makes things more palatable. Doesn't disclose things for fear of disappointing. Avoids addressing things and conflict. Keeps on offering candy coated turds. Which is demonstrating to you loyalty?   

 

Your point is well taken. It legitimately has it's merits. Support the team! With that though comes accountability. Coaches want this out of their players. Accountability for themselves and each other. Shouldn't the fans hold the head coach,  players and anyone else integral to the success of their team accountable too? That doesn't exclude fans. We can empathize and support each other in that regard as well.  

 

People I think are mostly exhausted. Supporting their team has taken it's toll on us in a variety of ways over the years. We've expended a lot of emotional capital. We just haven't had many reasons to celebrate or feel good about something dear to us. We gain confidence and enthusiasm only to be punished again and again on a continuum for it. Let down what sometimes feels like might be infinite. Doubt creeps in. Everything becomes questioned. Conviction takes a hit.  

 

In a way, coaching changes or the prospect of them occurring almost become more promising than the games...And can we really blame the faithful? It's like purchasing a lottery ticket. There's hope. We can dream. The prospect of being winners again. At least there's that. 

 

We are tired of being in limbo absent a real sense of going in the right direction and at least making progress. Everyone deals with it all differently.

Enjoyed your thoughts @M.A..  I assume that took some time to share, wanted to express gratitude for the interaction.

1 hour ago, lo country said:

I think I was pre-season 5-7.  I'm in the 3-9 camp now.  The week 0 loss, was one game most had picked to win.  Outside of ND and Georgia Southern, who else do you see us beating.  Our OL doesn't get better and we don't get a running game going, CT won't last the season back there.  

I was 5-7 as well.  Actually, still am.  The part that cracks me up is how the 5-7 crowd gets a pretty negative view months ago [by that 8-4, 7-5], and now these same folks state we can only win maybe 2-3 games.  

I will say this, if any "prediction" was made by an ESPN guy, you wouldn't see that guy who said Nebraska would go 8-4 to revise it during the next week and state that now they will go 2-10.  In this, "the greatest fans on earth" become comical.  :-)

Enjoyed this article ...

"And in Frost’s entire coaching career, six times he’s attempted an onside. Not once have his teams succeeded in getting the ball. In all six failed attempts, the other team got at least a field goal attempt. In five of them, the opponent would score. Four of those games his team was trailing, and his team would go on to lose the game. The other two surprise attempts? They would also lose the game.

To recap: Exactly 0% of those OSK attempts worked; 100% of them allowed a scoring opportunity; 83% of them actually allowed a score; and 100% of the time his team lost."

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2022/9/2/23334187/fire-everybody-scott-frosts-decision-to-kick-the-onside-was-even-worse-than-it-seemed-at-the-time

1 hour ago, TGHusker said:

Yes - I'd prefer them if we can get them before the SEC does.  However, I would like to be in that Florida market for recruiting. 

Thanks for your additional share.  

I can see getting a footprint there.  I think I would stay higher up in Florida.  I like Florida St. in that sense.  I'd also take Clemson.

I don't really count FSC teams/games as "wins" nor worthy of my time [would love to see that as a rule implementedby the NCAA].  I'll be watching Oregon/Georgia unless I see  might be getting upset.  A "win" here for  should be expected so handily, an upset would be worth my time as that might mean the end of Frost now.  

I won't be hoping for that.  I just can’t stomach watching such "fluff".  I know these days is "necessary" ... but that is our problem.  I'd prefer to see a Kansas, a Washington State or a Wyoming ... but I realize we may not win those games ... probably best to stick to FCS teams.  :-)

The next real game I'll be watching is Huskers/Sooner and we will arrive at that contest 0-1 with a chance to even up the season.  Scott has compiled his best team and has finally got all his pieces in place, so we can see now how his best compilation goes against the easiest B1G schedule he's ever had.  

Currently: 0-1 :-(

7 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

With the talk of Oregon and Washington ' in talks wt Big 10' and Stanford and Cal being possible additions plus the continued talk about Norte Dame, I'd like to 

see the following.   4 pods of 6 teams

West Region:

Pacific DIVISION: 

UCLA, USC, OR, WASH, CAL, STANFORD

 

PLAINS DIVISION

NEBRASKA, IOWA, MINI, WISCY, NW, ILL

 

EAST REGION:

LAKES DIVISION

OSU, MICH, MSU, PURDUE, INDY, N.DAME

 

ATLANTIC DIVISION

PSU, RUTGERS, MARYLAND, MIAMI, GEORGIA TECH, VIRGINIA TECH (or NC State or one of the 4 below that are rumored targets of the SEC)   -  

(assumption that SEC gets FSU, Clemson, NC, Virginia and somehow breaks the contractional barriers wt the ACC Grant of Rights)

 

Nebraska would play everyone in its division yearly (5 games) and 3 from the Pacific Division (cycling through every team every 2 years).  They would also play 2 from the Lakes Div and 2 from the Atlantic division (cycling through every team every 3 years).  - thus 12 games all in conference play. 

 

This would give the Big 10 a truly national foot print for both TV, Streaming rights and for recruiting.  It would get the BIG 10 into the hot recruiting areas of the south where the SEC currently dominates.  

Wouldn't North Carolina and Virginia be in play [and better options than Miami and Georgia Tech] to get the AAU stuff if possible?

2 hours ago, runningblind said:

I think that is a North Dakota State player.  Green and yellow versus green and white.

Ah, I see my mistake.  My bad.  Thanks.

Jesus from The Chosen Series.

52 minutes ago, The Whale said:

An honorable man would resign after the loss to North Dakota and would voluntarily forfeit the entire buyout amount.

Since you are a new member, my guess is you are not honorable.  As bad as it is, we don't need you here.

I have found it refreshing to see fans speak up early.  It's not like we didn't hear a large volume of "coachspeak".  The bloviation continues at an alarming pace.

It would have been far different if Frost was stating that the players aren't working hard, don't seem ready, etc.  The reality is he sells massive improvement and then squander a lead with his same miscues.

He will still get his 4-5 wins and nestle in nicely into a 4-8 or 5-7 team.  He will probably be the 5-7 team of all-time if history repeats itself.

Go Big Red.

41 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

As far as recruiting goes, yeah you can say Frost had 4 straight Top 20 classes (which isn't quite accurate, but close) and that it didn't work out, but for the most part, recruiting matters if you want to compete for championships. Of course, if you're just trying to be on the level of some other "decent" teams in the conference then I guess it doesn't matter much.

Didn't a few of those recruiting classes get blown up?  Also, the 4* type players have usually been skill positions who also leave.  The DE or DL type guy we recruit is usually a 2nd to 3rd tier type who is more of a "flyer" than anything else.  When you couple that with little development you get what we got ... vanilla.