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14 minutes ago, Frott Scost said:
Wow square dancing in school is a real thing? Thank god I live in Omaha where we do our best not to live up to the national stereotype of being cornfed hicks. No offense to my western Nebraska brothers/sisters on the board
I'm not even from Nebraska and I take offense at that. I'm not a big dancer, but when I have been forced to dance, square dancing was the most enjoyable.
I think it's way more mainstream than hick.
Edit: Like bluegrass. Bluegrass might be more prevalent in certain parts of the county, but you can find bluegrass bands all over the country. It's seen as more quirky than hick.
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1 minute ago, 4skers89 said:
That would be a good idea to get them integrated into Nebraska society in case they lacked that in their upbringing. Maybe after spring game they could fit that in.
Nebraska orientation program?
"Walters, you'll be the man and Beckton, you'll be the lady for this square dancing"
"This is called a Runza, feel free to eat them on the sidelines"
"This is called hunting, it's how people found food before restaurants"
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So Frost is going to take Walters and Beckton square dancing to see if they qualify to live in Nebraska?
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On 12/8/2017 at 7:05 AM, GamingGlen said:
You don't understand the native Floridian mindset. Floridians are weak when it comes to the cold. It gets down to 70 and THEY are putting on sweaters*. I just laugh. About 60 they're putting on coats and hats and some switch to long pants from shorts (many wear long pants all year long.. don't know how they put up with the heat).
On 12/8/2017 at 7:45 AM, Gage County said:We were in an outside tent thingy at restaurant in Jacksonville Beach. It was 68° and they had the propane heaters on.
I'll not disagree with either of these. Once you get used to weather being in a certain range year-round, anything colder feels like Hoth.
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23 minutes ago, GoBigRed7228 said:
Also, Im sorry I called you a salty man. You seem nice. I like what you've done with your avatar though.
No worries, you're not wrong. The two words most commonly used to describe me by coworkers are sadist and jackass.
Salty is just a new term to me. I like it.
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18 minutes ago, ScottyIce said:
Shhhh, don’t tell @ATS Knight
Too late. The twitter has been hinting at it for a while.
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1 hour ago, krc1995 said:
UCF fans need to understand one thing if you grew up in nebrasksa, like Frost did, you probably had to take a four week square dancing course every year during p.e. These are the kinds of things that others cannot possibly understand.
What is the advantage of knowing about Nebraska square dancing training? I'm not pushing back, just not seeing the connection.
When I was at UCF, they had a class called Country/Western Line Dancing. Lot of football players in that class. No wonder they're thinking about transferring, not enough school-sanctioned square dancing...
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13 minutes ago, Dilly Dilly said:
Huskerboard is very well moderated and they dont put up with the same BS crap that other forums do. I'm guessing it's also a closer representation of what you'd actually find with Huskers in person than anything you may have seen on other forums. Again - I really would love to see you make a Husker home game some day -- you'd see that we're really pretty decent folks -- not the asshats found on some other fan forums.
I'm not sure I'll be able to make it out to Lincoln anytime soon, it's a bit of a trip from where I live. But I believe you that HB is close to what I would find, it feels like when fans of the home team offer you a beer, but a lot more welcoming.
HB does have it's share of overly defensive and insecure fans, but I'm of the opinion that communicating on the internet brings out the worst in people. If this is the worst of Nebraska, I can see why people can't wait to return to Nebraska when they leave.
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1 hour ago, tfree32 said:
A handful of obnoxious Husker fans have been trolling them for weeks...telling them they suck, they’re a crappy program, we were goingto to steal their coach(es) and all their recruits, etc. so I’m not surprised the UCF fans are riled up. For being the classiest and nicest fans in the game, we sure have a few a-holes as well. And they’re making the rest of us look bad.
I agree with this. I've enjoyed HB b/c of how classy and nice the fans are. It's rare to find fans that actually want to discuss and reasonably respond and admit when they are wrong. Most just want to see who can troll for the most responses.
But the UCF Rivals board is not the cream of the crop for UCF fans. They were pretty easy to rile up before the coaching stuff, so add a bunch of "Husker fans" trolling and it's like a board full of cornered animals, even to the fans that come in peace.
Honestly, the "Husker fans" that have been on there are (for the most part) so different than the Husker fans on here that I wouldn't be surprised if at least half were fans of other schools trying to make y'all look bad and/or trying to rile up the UCF fans.
Do Iowa fans care that much about y'all? I wouldn't be shocked if a few were USF fans. None of them are displaying a wealth of knowledge about Nebraska.
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10 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said:
Care to elaborate on this? I think I know where you're going, but.....
I just mean that the Heupel hire feels really similar to how it felt when Frost was hired for a lot of UCF fans. There's reason for optimism, but lots of question marks as well.
Y'all might have known a lot about Frost when we hired him, but it came out of nowhere. We were hearing a handful of names, but Frost wasn't one of them. Once the announcement came out, UCF fans were cautiously optimistic. But there were some big questions, like can this guy with midwest/northwest connections recruit well in Florida? And can this guy design his own offense or is he just copying the guy copying Chip Kelly? Obviously, we got good answers to both questions, but Heupel feels like a similar balance of hope and questions.
8 hours ago, GoBigRed7228 said:hes trying to downplay frost by saying he has gotten by on Kelly's coattails. people should stop engaging this salty man.
I've been called many things over the course of my life, but salty is a brand new one. How to incorporate that in my avatar...hmmm....
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47 minutes ago, hansenn said:
@ATS Knight do you have any insight as to what might have happened between UCF and Beckton or Walters?
No idea. There's a decent chance that Walters only stayed on to have a shot at the HC position, but Beckton probably wanted to stay. He was still recruiting! Heupel says that he "obviously wanted them to stay." Rumors are that Beckton wanted a promotion and Heupel wouldn't give it to him or promise that he would be promoted soon. In this hypothetical theory, Frost may have promised him (or promised strong consideration for) the OC position when Walters inevitably leaves.
16 minutes ago, Truth in Ruin said:I read it; it’s embarrassing.
It's more embarrassing if you're a UCF fan. The installing a defense in 3 weeks thing was pretty awesome.
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35 minutes ago, BigRedN said:
@ATS Knight, well, my post was not a dart at you bubba. Nor am I debating you. Just adding to the overall discussion and hopefully some additional balance. I like how @krc1995 put it ... there is no "template". Very true. In the end, I think both UCF fans and Husker fans have seen enough of Scott Frost over the 2-20 years to see how he conducts himself.
I'm not offended (I have no problem not being the sharpest knife in the drawer), however I wrote about a real concern in a facetious tone. Namely, that both this thread and more so the Assistants Announced threads are starting to focus more on whether the UCF fans are whiners (and whether I'm a butthurt/whiny/naive troll), than the actual topic they were created for.
While creating a thread to debate my intelligence/character doesn't sound like the most workable solution, it probably would get those threads back on track.
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3 hours ago, BigRedN said:
Thus, it agitates me a bit how @ATS Knight can slant his view. I get it however ... but is it truly honest and considerate with all the information known. Finally, I also don't get the "take" on how it's wrong for Scott to offer these kids to come with him to Nebraska, if they want ... because they wanted to play for him and Scott's offense. I'm thinking of 3-4 recruits that were committed to MR that since his firing have opened up their recruitment and are going other places. Is ATS Knight wanting to express to our forum that all these kids must hold to their original commitment to MR and must play for Nebraska? Again, I just don't think these comments are "honest" and "considerate". I understand that you are a bit "butt-hurt", actually, a lot ... but I get that.
I'm getting a ton of compliments in a bunch of different threads, it's hard for me to keep up. I wonder if the mods should combine them into a "Is ATS a butthurt moron?" megathread.
It seems to be the topic du jour now that some of the news is dying down.
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27 minutes ago, olddominionhusker said:
But look at the fan base. That stadium was half full at best most of this year. This is not a knowledgeable fan base. Of course there are exceptions I’m sure. I’m not stating that to be a jerk. It’s just obvious. If UCF was going to hire a coach their fans had heard of it would be a list of like 8 guys some of whom are in the NFL or broadcasting at this point
We were all hoping to get Herm Edwards, but ASU beat us out. Damn P5 money...
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23 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:
Is UCF trying to make it seem like it was the coaches that didn't want to stay perhaps? Sort of a save face thing?
This worries me. Again, waiting for more details.
23 minutes ago, Hedley Lamarr said:I think UCF pooped the bed on this hire personally. They had a broyles nominee begging to he their HC and instead hired Mizzerys OC.....meh
Certainly possible. We get hope from the fact that the last guy we hired was some guy who no one was excited about and couldn't even design his own offense.
36 minutes ago, ScottyIce said:I'm sorry, I feel like @ATS Knight is probably a really solid dude, but is coming off quite whiny.
It's not fair when people call me whiny...
1 hour ago, Enhance said:Frost couldn't wait until after the bowl game or even after the championship game to start the hiring process. The early signing period and volatility of the market demands swift action. If you try to do things slow and wait until December then you will flat out miss out on the best coaching candidates.
Yep, it really screws over a team when they have to wait until December to hire coaches...
4 hours ago, olddominionhusker said:Also the narrative of him “taking”the coaches has to stop. These are grown men(They’re 40!). He has not to my knowledge abducted them. As you said, it’s a testament to his leadership. The same leadership qualities which took you from 0-12 two years ago. If he was truly the Machiavellian villain ya’ll want him to be I doubt he would inspire that degree of loyalty.
Unless he is an evil warlock, as established earlier in the thread.
9 hours ago, Sparker said:Rumors going around that they objected to the new mandatory Superhero-Friday dress code.
Somebody's cousin overheard at Tijuana Flats that the coaches wanted to dress as other members of the Justice League but were told that Superhero-Friday forces everyone to wear the same one-size-fits-all costume of Batman. Told that the admin assistant left in anticipation of this rule.
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5 hours ago, HuskerNation1 said:
I would just ignore the UCF trolls. Frost has been more gracious and honest than all other coaches who left their teams this year and in recent years.
UCF has never had a coach leave since we started playing real football. Past three coaches were fired or forced to resign.
19 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:Give us some background on the tweets? I don't know who either one of those are....j
So Beckton leaving is a BFD for UCF fans. It actually hurts worse than Frost. From 1985-2015, UCF only had three coaches, so this quick transition thing is new to us. The one mainstay at all times has been Beckton. He was a grad assistant in '92 and has been coaching in various capacities since '96. Solid guy, solid recruited, solid coach. Never complained and bled black and gold. No matter what chaos happened in the transitions, Beckton was around preaching the gospel of UCF.
So when Frost left, the consolation was that of course Beckton was still here, still preaching the gospel of UCF. Him leaving is a really bad sign. Charley Hughett is just a former UCF player. The big deal, though, is Beckton wouldn't leave unless a warlock had hypnotized him or something happened...
37 minutes ago, Kernel Red said:Is there any chance UCF refused to pay coaching bonuses to assistants for the bowl game?
Something strange is happening here.
Something strange is happening here. I've heard rumblings about bowl game bonuses for the coaching staff, possibly tied to flipping commitments. I'm not sure I see the potential for UCF to look good here, but I sure see the potential for something bad.
Beckton leaving is a very ominous canary...
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Just now, Frott Scost said:
Yep, just saw it. If Heupel is some dirtbag that mistreated the coaches and shows obvious potential of mistreating the recruits, Frost is justified in grabbing as many people as he likes.
Waiting for more details...
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14 minutes ago, Frott Scost said:
Its easier if you dont read the media narrative and actually use your own common sense. Which you seem like a smart guy. Beckton is going around twitter saying something happened but will take the high road.
If the new coach alienates the most loyal, heart-and-soul of the program for the past 20 years, is that a good sign?
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2 minutes ago, Frott Scost said:
You know you wanna be a husker fan. You wouldnt be asking about the history if you didnt. Once you go red you never go back. Take the leap my friend.
This is why I'm pissed. I'm trying to be both, but Frost isn't making it easy.
5 minutes ago, Nebfanatic said:We love having you around! Like the Hulk Hogan avi
I'm preparing for the inevitable heel turn...
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28 minutes ago, Making Chimichangas said:
I think Scott Frost should ask his former UCF players if they want him to coach them. Have the team vote on it. Let the players decide what they want. If they vote yes, then let Frost coach them in the bowl game. If they vote no, move on. (I would imagine that's what Frost did, but I don't know for certain.)
For the record, I am 100% fine with Frost staying at UCF to coach the bowl game. Nebraska has sucked pretty badly the last 3 years, so 3 more weeks is more or less inconsequential.
I agree with this, it's about the kids more than the fans. With all the garbage happening, we're probably not going to win, but if it gives the team closure, it's worth the awkwardness. If the team is feeling hurt and betrayed, it's probably not worth the damage.
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1 hour ago, Sparker said:But you're OUR troll!
1 hour ago, Jim Hammer said:SF loves UCF.
He's just not in love with them.
1 hour ago, Beez said:It's not you it's him.
All three comments made me laugh out loud and made me realize why I shouldn't plan on leaving Huskerboard anytime soon.
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38 minutes ago, Truth in Ruin said:
I mean no disrespect; this post made me actually LOL in real life. Thank you for that.
I now know why it is that you’re upset.
Thank God, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.
Some guy called me a UCF troll!
10 minutes ago, hskrpwr13 said:I guess it comes down to whether or not Frost actually poached the staff. Sure, he took guys like Held, that have Husker ties, but what about Belton and Walters? Didn't Frost "leave" them to take over, or at least stay as part of the new UCF staff? Didn't the new UCF staff essentially say no to Walters and lower Belton's pay? Unless I'm misunderstanding, UCF didn't exactly do right by some of the staff, therefore, making it very easy for them to decide (as opposed to being poached) to follow Frost to NU.
I'm still waiting for details to come out, but on our side, the story is that both were offered the same positions and raises and they decided to leave anyway. If Heupel ran them out of town, we'll be pissed at Heupel.
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15 minutes ago, swmohusker said:
1. No. I think most coaches don't feel that attached to the smaller program they are leaving.
2. I think it takes a special coach for everyone to want to follow him. Esp Walters and Belton. He gave them time and opportunity to stay, they found the best for their career was to follow SF. Recruits are not anyone's until NSD
Welcome to the hell that UCF fans are going through.
Frost: I love UCF. I'm so loyal to you, I'm just more loyal to Nebraska.
UCF: We understand. That means that you'll be nicer than all those guys that callously used their programs as stepping stones?
Frost: Nope! I'll treat you much worse.
UCF: Worse? I thought you had a special attachment...
Frost: I do!
UCF: But you're going to ravage our program worse than coaches that hated their last school?
Frost: Yup! Go Big Red!
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I've got like two dozen notifications, so I'll try to address as much as I can in a general response:
There seems to be this idea that UCF fans (and me) are going through these unrealistic stages of grief and that if we want to play "big boy" football, we just need to suck it up.
First, there are fans that are going through the stages of grief and might be for a while. For most of us, we had plenty of time to figure out that Frost was leaving. It's been weeks, y'all. Most of us got over it. Coaches being poached happens at all levels of college football and there was decent chance of him going back to Oregon or Nebraska from the start. Most of the fans are over it.
Second, coaches being poached happens at all levels of college football. Everyone experiences it at some point. I actually think it happens less at higher levels of football.
So this idea of "don't try to rationalize with butthurt UCF fans"... well, that's actually probably accurate. But not for the reasons you think.
Frost left, boo hoo. Hard to complain when we just went undefeated. Guy doesn't owe us anything. Flipping recruits, taking transfers. Everyone does that. Taking coaches? Common. Taking all the coaches? Not so common, but that speaks more to Frost's leadership ability than anything else (that piece is probably irreplaceable. I'll admit that stings that we'll probably never find another coach like that).
The issue is that Frost presented himself like he wasn't like other coaches. Like he was torn about the decision. If he had said, "UCF was great, smell you later" (or something cooler), we would have said, "Thanks for the championship. We're mad that you screwed up our bowl, but you got us there." And we would have gotten over it.
But Frost has talked a lot about how much he loved UCF, and the leadership, and the team, and the fans, and how he wishes us well and wants to come back and coach because he loves everyone. And the UCF have mostly bought into that.
THAT'S the part that we're upset about. Not the coach leaving, but the coach wanting good things for us and decimating us as thoroughly as seemingly possible.
2 questions for Nebraska fans (serious questions looking for examples):
1) Have you ever heard a coach talk about a school they were leaving the way Frost has talked about us? I know some coaches that have said some nice things on the way out, but nothing like this.
2) Have you ever heard about a coach taking as much from a school on his way out? I know some coaches that have taken some things, but nothing like this.
It's the contrast between the two that has UCF fans feeling betrayed.
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There are quite a few fans that are still worried that the staff are going to be recruiting our players during practice and the games. They're just scared.
They're scared that Frost 100% N and 0% UCF and will use this as an opportunity to take more stuff. And they know that we can't win without him.
This is how people act when they feel helpless, they b!tch about everything because at least they have control over that.