DefenderAO

8 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

This is the 4th place he's been on Rhule's staff.  Rhule has picked him 4 times.  They worked together at Western Carolina prior to that. 

 

Again, not saying he's the right guy, but he needs a chance with a full deck.  Or something closer to one than he had.

 

Firstly - I believe Rhule is the guy.  He obviously likes Satt.  Rhule's one-second-running opinion on the matter is infinitely weightier than all fans' opinions.

Rhule did handpick Sims.  So he's not batting 1.000.  But, Rhule is the guy.

The '22 commentary on Satt, from those players, was rough.  His situational play calling and complexity as notables.  With Sims and HH as some of the worst we've had, how did Satterfield adjust to either improve either or mitigate their known weaknesses?   HH's decision making and mechanics regressed throughout the year.  He threw sidearm and had no mentality to read a D and make a good choice, much less deliver an. accurate ball.

The man in charge of that room followed Rhule to NU and now is responsible for developing our highest rated recruit of all time.

3 hours ago, twofittyonred said:

You think Satt is a "D" tier coach..?? 

 

"The players and results from his last job would agree."

 

His last job, 2 yrs at South Carolina..??  first year having QB injury issues and having to play 4 QB's ending the season with 7 wins then the following season with 8 wins beating Tennessee, Clemson and breaking many offensive production records..??

 

Satt may not be a splash hire but he obviously has the work ethic that Matt Rhule demands and a coaching style that seems to motivate those under him...  He also has 2 years left on a substantial contract and only 1 year working with a very difficult situation in the QB, running back and receivers room last year... 

 

My guess is we will get him some help scheming and with the young men we have brought into said rooms, lets see what he can do with a full cupboard..

 

This thought about just tossing an OC out after 1 yr is ludicrous and does absolutely nothing towards building continuity which is essential for turning a program around..

 

JMHO.   

 

The cost of bad hires is more pronounced given the landscape of college football.  Having a bad OC at the same time as pulling in the school's highest rated recruit, an offensive player, at the most critical position on a team, is something to key on. 

Hope I'm wrong, but Satterfield does not seem to be the guy.

It doesn't take much effort to find a slew of commentary and takes about how bad he was at SC.  Couple those comments with the results we saw last year, and he rightfully should be scrutinized.

2 hours ago, twofittyonred said:

Well......  Yes......!   Bringing Dana in as a cheap analyst and Glenn Thomas as QB coach and co-OC that covers all the bases for learning AND for further growth if Satt doesnt work out..  Why would you not want to develop the guys that you are already paying as opposed to canning them and STILL paying them..??  

With the resources we have, why are we bringing in D tier OC's with an aim to develop them?

Satterfield is not very good.  The players and results from his last job would agree.  

Someone earlier stated Rhule likes to develop people.  Development of a 19 year old kid in readiness for life and a career in sports is different than developing a lead coordinator who's critical in turning a program around.  

30 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

1. Good stuff.  He's already here, so this is ridiculous itself.  The context is what he should have done.

2.  Thompson made a choice.  But much like #1, this has nothing to do with Sims or HH performance.  It'd be neat if we could have seen a Thompson with no Palmer play out at Nebraska.  I have a hunch it'd be about the same result as HH.  Atleast HH could run.

3. Monday morning coaching.  He did get pulled.

4.  This is Gold.  Work Harder.  Write a book on this.

5.  He was going to have the surgery the week he started his first game.  The moved it because HH was hurt and there was almost no chance of putting Sims back in.  Being "the best" in the room is damn near pointless when considering the room.

 

They've recruited two elite QBs.  Picked up a multiple year starter Olineman, a RB and possibly two WR's (waiting on Banks).  Maybe give Satt more than 6 months before you decide how terrible he is?

1. Demote him or exit him.  Bring someone better.  Pudding doesn't sharpen iron.  NU is not a stage to develop a top coordinator position.  

2.  HH could certainly run and give the ball to the other team.  Sims did both of these better than HH and was a national standout at the latter.

3.  Pull him earlier.  It was clear he couldn't do it.

4.  Show results.  Let's see your developing OC's produce refined on-field results.  Or maybe that's just part of 900K Satterfield's blossoming path to success in D1.  

5.  EDIT: was on against Satterfield, but no player or coordinator should've been a surprise.  They were wildcards and risks, yes.  And Sims and Satt failed.  The former moves on...the latter gets more development and training I guess.

9 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

How about before you answer a question before I answer one? 

 

What would you have done?  What would you have done to fix HH, the third string QB's throwing motion and ability to read D's in 2 months?  What would have done to help Sims overcome one of the worst Turnover problems in modern football history?

1. Not hired Satterfield knowing he is average at his best.  Show me data that says otherwise.  And why would you use this platform to develop a coach?  

2.  Been extremely leery of all eggs in the Sims basket.  It made Thompson's release inevitable.  Sims has always been turnover prone.  The eyes that saw him as an NFL QB couldn't translate what they saw to results.  Sure, the player is responsible, but leaders are also culpable and should have multiple contingencies in place.

3.  Pulled Sims earlier in games and the year.  Accountability.

4.  Worked non stop with QB 2's decision making, reads, and mechanics.  This happened?  Then. where was the yield?

5.  Purdy got hurt at some point, but it's unclear how badly.  Towards the end of the season he's now starting. Was he GTG prior to that?  It ended up he. was the best in-game QB in the room.  

Satterfield isn't the guy.

Rhule even stated in his last coaching convention interview the season wasn't great.  But he's building it long term too.  I want it built through players like Dylan, and I see coaches like Satt as folks that cannot get teams or players to the next level.  

15 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

 

One thing to consider is trust.  Money can't buy that and to build something special, a guy really needs to trust those around him.  In my management career, I have had much better success with guys I develop, and trust, than hot shots brought in as a band aid.  I think the same is true in coaching, and many other areas of leadership. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I have a hard time seeing Satt as an elite OC right now.  That said, he has a tremendous amount of experience and with the right direction, he just might turn into what we all want.    

Where has he shown precedent for this happening in the recent past?  I think Rhule is the guy, but I a little dismayed at the eggs-in-basket choices on Sims and Satt.  Those were both his hand picks.

Now Dana is on the table.  I don't see Satt in the same league as him.  

And, with today's NCAA, DR isn't sticking around for three years of pudding sharpening iron-type development.  He wants to win and go pro.  Is Satt the way?

2 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

The fact that you're basing Satt's performance/capability on the bold is a tell.   What would you have done?

 

You're the F100 leader.  You've got a guy that can't do a TPS report and another that is a loose cannon and makes lude comments.  One can't do his job and the other is a liability.  You're on a hiring freeze for 6 months and these are the only two employees that can do their job....barely.  Take us through it bossman.

 

So, you're good with a program like Nebraska being a stage for developing top coordinators?

To develop football players you need seasoned, proven coaches.  Satterfield isn't that.  

1 hour ago, Hilltop said:

I disagree.  Rhule is a development guy.  He likes Satt as shown by his history of working with him and his willingness to bring him here.  I really think DH is being considered to help develop Satt.  I personally love the concept and Rhule's willingness to help his assistants advance.    

Develop teenage and early 20's talent, yes.  DI B1G Coordinators making hundreds of thousands of dollars?  

As a F100 company you're not bringing in unproven, failed, or inexperienced ELT members for a massive corporate turnaround to appease shareholders and stakeholders.  

I'm shocked Satt is being entertained as a mid term option.  HH didn't get any better in his mechanics or reads throughout the year.  If anything, he got worse.  And Sims never got on track.  

4 hours ago, Red Five said:

 

I have a friend who was on the 97 Michigan team and texted him "Congrats on Michigan's first title since 1948" last night.  He responded with a laughing emoji and then a picture of his 1997 ring.

 

We've had some conversations about who would have won in 97, but I always feel like I don't have a leg to stand on since I was playing intramural football at UNL and he was playing actual football at Michigan.

Tell him you're aware of at least one of their roster members and now know NU was superior.

They're losing right now

53 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

Picked to be 9th in the BIG 10 next year.     I wonder if the Big 10 can get 9 teams into the playoff 

 

Michigan, OSU, Oregon, PSU, Wash, USC, Iowa, Wiscy  ahead of us.  

 

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/big-ten-football-predictions-early-2024

 

 

With decent QB play we will be better net year. The challenge will be, after that, the schedule gets rough. Do we improve at a more rapid rate than the schedule difficulty.

Also, that 18.3 ppg is misleading.  45 of it to the top team in the land and a very weary defense playing in thin air (Colorado).

5 hours ago, TGHusker said:

Based on the bold highlighted below, Rhule expects Gabe and RJ to recover well from their injuries.  But with that said, I think it is a great move to add another strong back into the mix.   Hopefully next year we won't be reliant on the QB runs and will need more productivity from the RBs.  Dante Dowdell, from Oregon, may be a good addition to the RB room. 

 

https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/article/dante-dowdell-visiting-nebraska-football-program-in-early-january--223704164/

 

I'd take it.  First year challenges to play at Oregon has little translatable bearing to success with how Rhule is building this team.

8 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

Am I the only one in this thread that gets half way through reading a post thinking SF is referring to a former coach?

"HCMR" also gives me chills.

Time for Ice Cream!

Any surprises to this point or expected flips?

6 minutes ago, Scofrosghost said:

As a QB coach absolutely. I’m willing to wait and see how his play calling pans out with a decent QB. 

It will be interesting brother-to-brother conversations if the O Line can't keep Dylan on his feet.

I don't trust Satterfield to bring water from a cooler to Rhule.

7 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:

It's not an absurd comparison because they are pointing out specifically how much you were right in your first two sentences.

Peyton Manning had 12 of his 17 seasons where he threw 11 or more interceptions in the NFL.  It would be absurd to say that Raiola is better than 65% of Manning's NFL career.

Different competition and contexts.

Raiola is great grab and has huge potential in college.  Our QB room was probably the worst in the entire country.

The comparison drawn in the tweet, to assert the above, was still asinine.

44 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Our QBs were bad.

Raiola is good.

This comparison is just absurd.

10 hours ago, SWIHusker said:

Tell us! 

Didn't he tell us Raiola wasn't coming?

1 hour ago, Big Red Viking said:

Means noting unless he produces

Very profound. You must be the life of all parties. 

"I still hate that '95 team for giving up 24 to Florida..."

10 hours ago, M.A. said:

 

Someone mentioned something about eating crow earlier...

 

 

Again for anyone interested. 

1 hour ago, Hilltop said:

Listening to surius xm over lunch.  Nebraska and DR was a hot topic.  One of their talking heads is saying that he "thinks" Georgia is back in the mix because they countered whatever Nebraska was offering.  He said he is 50/50 right now on where he will go.  He said either way it is a win for Nebraska because of the national buzz it has created.  Not sure I agree...  They went on to talk about how high school recruiting is impacting where transfers go which lead into McCord.    

If Georgia is back in the mix to the degree it's a coin flip, this is an embarrassing development for the entire Raiola family.  A complete clown show circus.

In reality, their family has too much pride and respect for it to have gotten to this point and Dylan not be N.

31 minutes ago, Stone Cold said:

Sorry, its a different world.  Money does things to people.  Id throw all of you under the bus if it meant getting life changing money and i dont think many other people are different from that.  

Other people have integrity and dignity.

51 minutes ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Hard to tell, his line at buford is auful.  He does through some back shoulder & touch passes. 

I noticed that too but left it off my comment.  

His uncle coaches the same; one of our recently weaker units.  Extended one year in contract.

Exciting for the program but that line had better protect the kid...

Those who've seen him, how well does he read through progressions?  The highlights I see are he's got a cannon arm and receivers who can get behind DB's. 

How do his skills translate to B1G year one?

He better have someone's mind better than Satt teaching him how to see the field.

Raiola