Bledred

We have yet to consider the damage this has done to the B1G's reputation/optics.  There are a lot of recruits out there watching the SEC, ACC, and Big 12 play this fall and us not playing will most defiantly have a negative impact on their perception of our league.  The Pac 12, to be honest does not really matter for they were essentially obsolete before this debacle.  

Updated summary of current events:

• High School football playing across the entire US (except Gretchigan and a few select schools) and doing just fine.  ESPN U has been televising High School football games lol.
• SEC, ACC, and Big 12 are prepping for a start to their football season in a week with no delay or issues in sight....asshoes.
• The Big 14 Comish Kevin Warren will not be pulling his son out of playing football at the same level of competition of the conference that he just canceled the season due to concerns for the player's health for the pandemic.
• POTUS wants everyone to play football this fall and is actually taking action to get this done and the reaction of some is in the same flavor of disgust that ESPN/MSM talking heads had for Nebraska wanting to play football this fall.
• Sir Yacht continues to be wrong, but we love his enthusiasm/blind hope! 
• Alcohol brands and distributors are going to see a massive spike in sales this fall in the big 14 states and are celebrating.
• Final four playoff will most likely be Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma, and LSU/Georgia with Bama taking the NC in the final against Clemson.
• We all know what is coming in the Spring...cancellation of the season.  With the NCAA giving an extra year of eligibility and an eventual false-positive spike during the flu season, not to mention the winter blizzards, Kevin Warren and company have all the ammo they need to kill the season from happening at all.  After calling the Nebraska player's lawsuit a "fishing expedition" and letters from the parents pointing out their blatant lack of leadership, transparency, and hypocrisy, you know the Big 14 bureaucrats are just itching for payback and their excuse will be that the players can stay an extra year if they want to.

5 hours ago, Old Nebraska Guy said:

Yeah, I think Dan P's source is sir boat

Is he/she related to or know Sir Yacht? 

11 hours ago, quesadilla said:

 

Alabama is just one week into the semester and is already using 200+ of the 450 quarantine beds they leased from a local apartment complex to house sick kids of campus.

 

No one is playing through to a national championship.

Not going to happen.  Too much at stake.  The Spanish Flu killed half a million people in this nation and we still played college football.  Unless more than half an entire conference gets this all at once, they will not be stopping.  

Whats next for Nebraska you ask?....Watch Alabama win another National Title via the playoff.  A lot of people have yet to figure out that by delaying our season to the spring we (B1G) have just taken ourselves out of the playoff picture without even playing a single game.  Should we be upset?...No.  But the teams that had a shot at a title should be (OSU...maybe Penn St. or Michigan).  PAC 12 will be lucky to win a single National Title in the next 20 years so they really had nothing to lose.  So after watching Alabama lift the National Title trophy in January, we will be left with a sinking feeling of a meaningless season.  Maybe a great advantage for Nebraska?  Time to knock some monkeys off our back?....Wisconsin, Iowa, OSU??

13 minutes ago, Decoy73 said:

What happens when many people figure out there’s other, more productive or self fulfilling ways to spend Saturdays in the Fall?  And then one day, football is back.  But will all these people be back to watch?   Some will, but some may find there’s more to life than 4 hours of cycling between anxiety and joy while often screaming at a bunch of college students who aren’t always meeting your expectations.  
 

Just a hunch, but this may become a real problem for some schools to continue to get butts in stadium seats.  

Hit the nail right on the head here.  Could be many years before they even sniff the attendance numbers they have been getting steady the last 20 years.  The 1994 strike in MLB practically destroyed their fanbase.  It took a once-in-a-life-time-steroid-induced home run race between Sammy and Mark to revive pro baseball.  If they did not have that, who knows how long it would of taken for them to recover.  Having no fans in the stadiums and no games for most is unprecedented territory for sports of all levels.  The effects of which could last for a very long time.  Take anything away from any American, and they will find something else to replace it with.  Getting that same American to go back to what they had before...might as well be forcing a horse to drink. 

On 8/18/2020 at 11:04 PM, Head Coach Scott Frost said:

You guys ever wonder if football was traditionally always played in the spring if we would be the corn planters instead

have a mini tractor towing a planter drive around the field before game time just like the Sooner Schooner.  Fans could pelt the field with seed corn on bad plays.  Heck yea! 

28 minutes ago, Omaha fan said:

My aplohogies if that is a bit much, it’s just a perspective due to me living and working in a part of each conference and they really are so different. Yes diverse and great people in every spot but the majority cultures, what is important to them is so very different. I’m not going to slam any area- just saying each region is different from each other

, some significantly. So none of this surprises me at all. 

 

Areas I lived and worked in sales, so I talked to lots of people and covered lots of ground

 

bay area- California only. Some of the most amazing and hard working people in the world are farming here in the valley and eastern Cali. Could easily be midwesterners. 
 

seattle- Washington only

 

dallas- had 4 states-Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana. Some of the coolest people in the world in okc, Texas hill country and west Texas. 

 

Denver- Colorado only

 

florida panhandle- florida, Alabama, mississipi, Louisiana-  panhandle in much much different than rest of state 

 

Omaha -Des Moines- lincoln

covering Nebraska, iowa, South Dakota 
 

closest to us is west Texas 

Was not a bit much...was exactly what I was thinking.  Very easy to see for someone who takes an extrospective approach.  To highlight this point consider the following:

World War I:  Did not cancel college football

Stock Market Crash of 1929: Did not cancel college football

Great Depression:  Did not cancel college football

Spanish Flu:  Did not cancel college football

World War II:  Did not cancel college football

Korean War:  Did not cancel college football

Hong Kong Virus:  Did not cancel college football

Vietnam War:  Did not cancel college football

Gulf War:  Did not cancel college football

9/11:  Did not cancel college football

Great Recession:  Did not cancel college football

Iraq War:  Did not cancel college football

Afghanistan War:  Did not cancel college football

Bird Flu:  Did not cancel college football

SARS:  Did not cancel college football

Covid-19:  cancel.....cancel....cancel...Cancel...Cancel!...Cancel!....CANCEL!!....CANCEL!!!

Gentile Exodus. 

Football being canceled is just one minor symptoms stemming from a much larger illness.  Sports are not separate from the world and the world is not separate from sports.  We like to think that sports are encased in this untouchable cocoon (as evidenced by the long history pointed out above), but they are not.  They are in the mix along with everything else in the world.  And are subject to being impacted by larger outside forces/movements just like everything else.  

Instead of watching I am going to do.  I have spent too much of my life watching. 

9 hours ago, Huskers93-97 said:

More 

 

https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/Article/Nebraska-Football-parents-threaten-to-sue-Big-Ten-Conference-150522318/

Well that was quick.  I literally said that there could be lawsuits against the Big 14 because of this just hours ago. 

27 minutes ago, Omaha fan said:

This thing has broken right down political fault lines for the most part

 

States that went red in 2016 are playing football 

Sec-alabama Florida Georgia Tennessee Arkansas South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky Missouri  Texas 

 

Big 12 -Texas Oklahoma Kansas iowa West Virginia 

 

North Carolina, Georgia, South Carolina , Pennsylvania , Florida    Outlier New York 

 

no go blues:

pac 12- California, Oregon, Washington, colorado, Arizona 

outlier- Utah 
 

big 10

yeahs - reds - Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio, pennsylvania, Indiana 

nos- tied states Michigan, Wisconsin 

blues no-new York, Maryland. , Illinois, Minnesota 

 

So really easy to see why the sec, big 12 and acc we’re so unified to play

 

we also see why the pac 12 was so unified not to play

 

Very obvious to see why the big 10 was so split, we Are are not politically homogenous at all like the other conferences.

 

At the end of the day culturally our country differs a bit from area to area and in some places football is important and in others not so much .  Looks like university presidents either think like their constituants or they just voted for those interests 

Looks like the Big Six Rebellion of 2020 is at its end.  And the culprit is none other than Gretchen the Grinch who stole the 2020 College Football Season.

"I was also told that one roadblock to the new plan is the fact that Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer has been vehemently opposed to football being played—at the high school and college level—in the state this fall," explained veteran college football writer Jeff Snook.

After the Big Ten Conference postponed its football season on August 11, Ohio State's Smith recruited the University of Iowa, University of Nebraska, and Penn State University to be part of a six-team season. To move forward with the season, Smith needed to get two more programs on board and was hopeful Harbaugh's Wolverines would be one of them."

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/the-gretchen-who-stole-football/

7 hours ago, hunter49 said:

and as for college football in the spring, it will be a pony league with the high draft picks sitting out. no reputable agent is gonna advise his stars to risk injury, just prior to the draft, as many have said. a makeup schedule with constant traveling will be a covid nightmare.

All of the top upperclassman of our opponents will not be playing while all of our upperclassman will be playing?  Sounds good to me! 

7 hours ago, FrantzHardySwag said:

When the NFL stadiums look like this for most teams, you bet they will care:

3 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

This will not happen. Clay Travis is indulging in conspiracy theories because he has no sports to talk about, and he needs to keep eyeballs on him.

 

I wonder how many sports journalists, all along the spectrum of legitimacy, will burn their credibility by peddling conspiracy theories in an effort to stay relevant. 

He is mentioning a lot of details and naming names....including his source Jeff Snook, who is in direct contact with the OSU Athletic Director. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Snook  

He also makes another great point...if other levels of football are being played in each state this fall (High School and Professional) then lawsuits can be filed against the B1G (by persons representing the state and not the Universities) for negligence, failure to follow their by-laws and protocol (unanimous decision required), and lost revenue due to the cancellation.  No judge could look at this case and determine that is just fine for high schools and professional teams to play, but it is not safe for college kids to play.  They would be the laughing stock of the legal world. 

So Clay Travis is reporting that OSU is putting together a revolt against the Big 14.  Presidents from Nebraska, Penn State and Iowa are reported to be on-board.  The group is trying to convince two other universities (Wisconsin and Michigan) to join.  They all would play 10 games with a home and home, playing each other twice with no conference champion.

It will be checkmate.  Kevin cannot kick OSU, Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa and Nebraska out of the conference.  These teams can then forfeit any scheduled games that are played in the spring (which will not happen because the flu season will be ramping up by then).  

10 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Several posts have moved out of this thread into the Tangent P&R thread in the Woodshed. @Bledred if you wish to continue along those lines of discussion, please either do so there or in the P&R forum. Political commentary is not allowed elsewhere on the board.

Understood.

14 hours ago, Crusader Husker said:

Waiting for the, "this doesn't fit my agenda so this source is garbage", response.

There are many agendas a brewing...

2 hours ago, Loebarth said:

In all seriousness. When I try to wrap my head around the cancellation (yes I expected it) I develop a headache. To me this should have been expected for no reason other then the media's reasoning behind whats considered "ok" gatherings. (Ex: "Ok" to riot/protest but not "ok" to assemble for church, "ok" to mass gather on a beach but not "ok" to gather for a wedding.. etc). The hypocrisy of the whole brings the sane to insanity. 

November 4th is the kill date for the C19 panic being spewed out by the dishonest media.  They might mention the death count every once and a while, but the 24/7 fear mongering will go away completely.  Mark my words.  The public is starting to realize how much of their lives are directed by the media and how dishonest they are in reporting. 

43 minutes ago, hunter49 said:

Warren is lost, NU to the ACC permanently is a joke, no money and too far from home.

I would take the ACC line-up over the B1G any day of the week. 

I hope he is right. 

It has been leaked that it was a 8-6 vote by the chancellors and presidents of the member schools.  Then the Big 14 (Kevin) decided to not release the results and which schools said yes and which schools said no.  The nays won and the rest is history.  Kevin deserves some flak for not releasing the results to the public. 

We are more likely to start our own conference and make our own TV network than go back to the Texas Conference. 

2 hours ago, nic said:

I have no idea if this guy is for real or just blowing smoke. Anyone know?

 

First off from now on I will be calling our conference the Big 14.  Teams 11-14 are Penn State, Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland.  Any fans of those institutions calling this conference the 'Big 10' is not even recognizing their own existence.

Second, this is being reported from multiple sources that it was an 8-6 split between members.  Really looking like Special K took the reigns of this thing and made the call like an NFL Commissioner and all in his first year on the job.  I thought "don't rock the boat" was the goal of any person taking on a position like this in their first year.  His tenure in the Big 14 will be short lived.

Lastly, this is going to stain the conference and ALL of our teams for the long-term.  We are already getting de-commits from the 2021 football class.  And so it will go with all fall sports in all the member schools.  Whether we like it or not, this virus and the positive test results in the populace will be on-going for YEARS to come.  The only real options are to stop all sports for several years or continue on with strict rules and protections in place.  No need to have fans attend sports for at least another year....a few athletes who test positive is not going to overwhelm our healthcare system.

Everybody could send the Big 14 letters every day and it would not make a difference.  They are dug in like a tick. 

It never was about us "leaving".  That is the BS that the ESPN pundits were spitting out.  The truth was that we were planning on playing a few non-conference home games (as hinted at many times by Frost and Moos) and then Warren responded that we would be kicked out if we did that.  Us playing games and then getting removed against our will is not the same thing as leaving the big ten on our own volition.

In this case paper (President/Chancellor) covers rock (Coach/AD).  Looking back at it, it may all just be posturing by Frost and Moos in the sight of their players.  A player is going to follow someone who fights for them and Frost and Moos understand this very well.  Having said that, Frost and Moos are quickly becoming all hat and no cattle...can talk the talk but cannot walk the walk...all bark but no bite...mouth writing checks their a** cannot cash etc. etc.  First they come out guns blazing that the big ten is going to have to adjust to us.  (Insert sad trombone sound here).  Two horrible seasons later with multiple beat-downs and no bowl appearances and not to forget getting beat twice by CU, we have yet to see what was initially promised.  This scenario just repeated itself with this whole "we are going to look at alternative options for games this fall" bit.  It has brought negative press down on our team and state and has once again shown Scott and Bill to bail when it comes to standing by what they are saying.