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14 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

So you haven't read the bill, you have no idea why it would be better, it's just not Obamacare so it must be. Solid rhetorical argument. 

 

Meanwhile, Obamacare has provided access to healthcare to millions of people who wouldn't ordinarily have had insurance. It passed its tenth anniversary earlier this year. 

 

Seems to be doing just fine in the absence of any help from the GOP, doesn't it?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Have I read the entire bill...no...does anyone  that is not a legal eagle read an entire bill ever.  Have I read the bullet points....sure have....I’m not here to convince you it would be better or worse.  
 

you asked for a Republican plan, I gave you the name of the bill.  You assumed there wasn’t one and and are now childishly upset that I gave you the name of the bill and not the link so you could do your own homework.  
 

Obamacare was supposed to give coverage to EVERY single American.  Obamacare was supposed to LOWER healthcare costs.  Obamacare was supposed to allow people to keep their doctors if they liked.   Obamacare did none of the above.  So no....it doesn’t seem to be doing fine

4 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

What bill? Why was it better than Obamacare? What would it have fixed from Obamacare's failings? Which parties were involved in crafting the bill? 

 

Surely there has to be a copy of this bill that you read so you know what you're talking about. Where's the link? Is this bill your Canadian girlfriend?

 

 

You already know that in less than 5 minutes searching you can find the House Resolution, and I’m pretty sure you already have done so.  
 

I will let you decide if it would have been then Obamacare.  Since Obamacare has already basically failed at many of its objectives, IMO it would have been better.  
 

No Canadian girlfriend for me, I’m married, but I see what you did there.   Hehehehe  

7 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

It isn't. Your chump party has never produced a viable fix for what ails Obamacare, despite working with Obama to create Obamacare and then saying for another decade they were going to "repeal and replace" it.

 

It has to be embarrassing to back a party with that track record of failure. 

The House passed a bill. 
 

Obama and your party wouldn't work with Rep on Obamacare.  They allowed Rep in the room as a courtesy, but that was just window dressing. 
 

if not for McCain, Obamacare would have been repealed and a better Bipartisan plan implemented.  

9 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

LINK PLEEZ

It’s on the world wide internets 

48 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

And, I'm assuming this idiot still thinks the world is flat too.

 

Yeah....it's normal in the US for Hospitals in cities to have refrigerated trucks out back to hold all the dead bodies.

It's also normal in NYC for them to dig mass graves.

 

Cool...huh?

Who says it’s cool? 

I don’t know if she ever thought the Earth was round, and if she did at one time think that, no idea if she still does.  I’m sure you could ask her though.  Her contact info is on the Johns Hopkins website 

58 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

 

Link. I'd love to read the Republican answer to Obamacare.

 

 

American Health Care Act of 2017
 

2 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

So the Repubs can't put forward a plan unless the current law is repealed?

 

I stand correct, THIS is the biggest lie about healthcare.

They can and have and no Dem  would vote for it because Obamacare is still around and Dems would see that as a failure of Obamacare. 

1 minute ago, knapplc said:

 

They've been promising that "in two weeks" every month or so since Obamacare was passed, right?

 

Maybe it's coming after Infrastructure Week! 

 

Maybe it would come if there was no Obamacare to fall back in.  I think you know as well as I that our elected officials tend to do not much of anything until they are on a deadline.  Well, a repeal of Obamacare would have forced the Rep and Dem to come together with their best ideas and compromise on something better than Obamacare. Republicans have outlined ideas of what they want and some Rep groups have actual plans ready to be voted on. 

However:

I wouldn’t want a Republican only plan without Dem ideas as a part of that plan, just like it didn’t work to have a Dem only plan in  Obamacare.  It obviously hasn’t worked.  

1 minute ago, commando said:

right after mexico pays for the wall

Hehehehehehe.   Good contribution to a healthcare discussion forum. 

29 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Wait. I thought the ball was in your court?

As stated previously, what is incorrect with the screenshot (not meme) of the headline and the article the headline comes from?   Sounds to me like Hogan had a choice and he chose unwisely.  

16 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

I heard the Republican plan they're going to replace Obamacare with is going to fix this. Right?

Possibly, but The Maverick voted thumbs  down to repeal Obamacare and force everyone to come together for a better plan. 

10 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

I'm glad you and yours have that kind of good experience. I have worked for Fortune 500 corporations and startups with less than 30 employees and have never had an option in insurers, only slight variations in the offered plans.

Again, only if they can afford it. An unaffordable plan isn't an option. Take a look at the insurance coverage options for anyone getting laid off. Or the gig economy non-employees.

Isn’t this what Obamacare was supposed to solve though?  Provide affordable health insurance options on the individual marketplace?  Make costs go down. 
 

getting rid of the catastrophic plans was a mistake in my opinion.  Some of the healthier individuals loved those cheaper options that covered them in the event something major happened.  Otherwise, those people never really used healthcare resources and saved a bundle on premiums that could be saved for later.  

12 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

This might be the biggest lie of the entire healthcare industry. The vast majority of Americans get their healthcare insurance through their employer, but very few get any say in who that provider is or what coverage they offer. Other coverage options that they cannot afford are not actually options.

I can only speak for myself and my immediate siblings, but every company I have ever worked for had different carrier choices and options within Those carriers to choose from.  Same with the current situations of my siblings.  Half of us work for large org’s and half for companies with under 1,000 employees.  
 

if someone really didn’t like their employer subsidized coverage and found a better option elsewhere, they can go get that policy.  

24 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Well this is just one of the not funny ones, Archy. I also found the one about Illinois strange. The media hasn't ignored the surge in Illinois and other midwestern states this fall.  Florida was news when it was leading the summer surge with Texas and Arizona. New York, New Jersey, Louisiana, and Illinois got most of the press in the first surge. 

 

It's almost like when people yell "Chicago!" when they want to ignore a racial incident. 

And what is incorrect here? 

24 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Well this is just one of the not funny ones, Archy. I also found the one about Illinois strange. The media hasn't ignored the surge in Illinois and other midwestern states this fall.  Florida was news when it was leading the summer surge with Texas and Arizona. New York, New Jersey, Louisiana, and Illinois got most of the press in the first surge. 

 

It's almost like when people yell "Chicago!" when they want to ignore a racial incident. 

And that’s not a meme.  It’s a screen shot of a WAPO headline 

1 hour ago, commando said:

but.....we have the greatest medical system in the world!

We do

14 hours ago, knapplc said:

 

It doesn't work for those people. The death panels from those unregulated insurance companies decide who gets what care and who doesn't. And those who get care are bankrupted by it.

 

A civilized nation that boasts the "best" healthcare on the planet shouldn't force 2/3 of total bankruptcies out of unexpected healthcare costs.

 

That's simply absurd.

 

 

There are no death panels. 

The consumer has choices if they believe the insurance carrier does not cover the appropriate medical conditions or procedures. 
 

“Those who get care are bankrupted by it”. So you are saying everyone who gets care goes into BK because of the cost of that care?  Awful bold statement. 
 

Bankruptcies are a tough situation and medical bankruptcies And those illness related bankruptcies ties to out of work situations are even more so.  
 

Hopefully people are looking closer at their plan and choosing ones with an out of pocket maximum that fits their income and needs along with long term disability insurance 

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

 

It’s shocking that politicians talk out both sides of their mouths. 
 

i have same frustrations with every politician basically but on different issues. 

1 hour ago, RedDenver said:

 

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2013/08/13/obama-rodeo-clown-loses-his-job-and-america-loses-its-sense-of-humor

2 hours ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

So you're not going to apologize for using misleading memes to avoid inconvenient evidence? 

Many memes people post are meant to be funny, but if you have something specific in mind please let me know. Enlighten me

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Genevieve Brand is definitely associated with Johns Hopkins, but I immediately found it odd that this bombshell was printed in a student newspaper and not cited elsewhere. Turns out, of course that many others associated with Johns Hopkins discredited her sketchy analytical technique and extrapolations. Even a layperson might have noted she misidentified the three leading causes of death in the U.S. in order to make her point.

 

But I guess as a warrior against Groupthink, Brand will have her research heavily distributed and endorsed by folks like you who engage in the conservative version of Groupthink, which never, ever ever requires peer review, or even a :30 Google search. 

Hey Guy, hope you are well.  I never endorsed her research.  I Simply posted an article pretty much without comment.  I only gave a 1 sentence headline of what the article was saying. 
 

anyways, enjoy your week. 

21 minutes ago, TGHusker said:

I had not heard of him until this Senate election. What has been his experience?  I don't know of any on the national stage?

No national experience aside from running for Senate 2 years ago.  Stinks for him that he lives in Michigan.  Tough race to win as a Rep.  

On 11/28/2020 at 1:41 PM, Enhance said:

I'll pose the same question I did last week when the "fire the coordinators" discussion surfaced.

 

What has Frost accomplished to warrant job security while having to fire two or more assistant coaches?

He accomplished getting an extension with a large buyout.  The buyout warrants job security for him this year and next. 

On 11/19/2020 at 10:34 AM, Xmas32 said:

Hard to speculate IMO until he goes through the combine style testing.  With him being a tweener, you'd need to project a bit for the next level.  Could he retain his athleticism at the next level if he had to bulk into a OLB?  I'm just not sure.  JoJo's been putting out some good tape thus far so he's definitely going to get a look or two at the next level.

He could be a Daniel Sorensen type

52 minutes ago, runningblind said:

 

That's a funny argument when they are rushing for 35 more yards per game and scoring 6 more points per over last year.  9th in scoring offense last year and 4th this year.

 

2019:

 

 

 

 

2020:

 

 

Their YPG is essentially the exact same from  2019 to 2020 and they would be tied for 6th is scoring if their 2020 output was ranked in the 2019 year.  They have managed to put a few more points on the board with the same yards per game so it could be based of a better turnover and penalty profile more so than anything else.  Or possibly better in the red zone at scoring TD’s this year than last.