Archy1221
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1 minute ago, RedDenver said:
Bringing up a Constitutional scholar makes no sense in this context. It's completely Constitutional for the Senate to have voted in any way they saw fit including convicting Trump.
Seems like they agreed with Turley and voted Against a sham impeachment.
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7 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
What does this even mean? The Senate absolutely could have convicted Trump.
A wrongful conviction would not have made sense.
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58 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:
Yes...they could have. But....Moscow Mitch protected them from having to do that.
Noted Liberal constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley says otherwise.
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1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:
Chicken s#!ts!!!
Can't make the cult angry.
Starts to make one wonder if Carl is making up sources and embellishing to stay relevant.
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A little brevity is needed
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6 hours ago, BigRedBuster said:
Hmmm....he actually names them. It will be interesting if any of them make a public statement after being mentioned.
Here you go. Some responses.
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10 minutes ago, deedsker said:
I forgot that I pay extra to have VSP that outlines exactly how useless it is. So yeah, I pay for two insurance providers to not be covered for what I was talking about.
You are covered for exactly what you were talking about. If you develop cataracts, your insurance plan will cover its portion of the surgery. And you didn’t even need the good insurance. The bad ones do too
And VSP which covers a prescription is very cheap. I’m guessing a couple dollars a month ( or less than one Starbucks latte a month)
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2 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Interesting, so (even assuming you're correct and that those people would be covered at all) the solution to extreme wait times in the American healthcare system is a single-payer system.
Ummm..less than 60 day wait for basically free eye surgery isn’t really an extreme wait time. Especially considering that what time is less than the Canadian and European model.
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9 minutes ago, deedsker said:
Plan only covers eye ware when a change in prescription occurs. Literally all other things are on the list of what isn't covered. Consultation, surgery, and therapy wouldn't be covered by my plan and would all be out of pocket.
So with the US being so great, if you can pay out of pocket for your services, it's great. The other 85-90% of us are kind of screwed.
So back to the talk of, if you can afford to snow bird to Phoenix, you probably like getting good treatment in the US. If you don't have the fiscal means to make everything go away with money, you like actually being able to get treated in Canada. Hence, the apparent dichotomy.
Are you talking about VSP (Vision insurance) or are you talking about medical insurance? 2 vastly different things.
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2 hours ago, RedDenver said:
The twitter image is of QAnon followers. LLinWood is one of the big pushers of QAnon.
I agree. Look around right-wing online media and you'll see tons and tons of it. And we now have a Congresswoman who is a QAnon believer, so that's something.
What right wing media? I read a decent amount and hear/know very little about Qanon.
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4 minutes ago, deedsker said:
Looked it up, I wouldn't be covered by anything doing with a ophthalmologist outside of a change in prescription. And I got the good insurance...
Not sure what your saying here? You wouldn’t be covered by ophthalmic surgery or other treatments.
13 minutes ago, RedDenver said:How long is the wait for Americans that can't afford the initial ophthalmologist visit let alone the surgery?
Probably closer to 60 days. They would be covered by Medicaid or even free clinic surgery.
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1 minute ago, RedDenver said:
Yep, only possible answer. Must be the group because it can't be you.
Correct
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6 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:
I always love it when I'm included in this because I criticize Trump....while sitting in a small town in the middle of Nebraska.
I think I’m the only person you disagree or pushback on. Must be group think.
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11 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
Yes.
Over
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/podcast/2018/oct/truth-about-waiting-see-doctor-canada
And over
And over
And over
https://pnhp.org/news/critique-of-the-fraser-institute-report-on-wait-times/
And... you get the idea
Your articles don’t actually say what you think they say. Especially take a look at the last one.
here is an example of the most common surgical procedure in the US and compare it to NHS and Canada.
here is another study
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/aos.13439#aos13439-sec-0005-title
and here is Canada. And just to be clear. This wait time is just for the initial visit by the Ophthalmologist after getting referral from the PCP, not even talking about the actual surgery.
In the US, a patient can see an ophthalmologist, get diagnosed with clinically significant cataract surgery and be on the table within 30 days.
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2 minutes ago, deedsker said:
Knapplc is Huskerboard. You are the flavor of the month. Maybe week.
Ok! Continue on with group think and patting each other on the back.
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9 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:
So...the tests weren't available from Trump, so a governor goes out and tries to find tests on his own, which didn't work. But....he's criticized for trying?
And....why didn't Trump work with the WHO to learn from their tests (that were very accurate) to develop ones for here? He didn't even ask or work with them. He was too busy promoting the whackadoodle conspiracy theory that they are all part of the world wide deep state that is all wrong with the world. Meanwhile...they had tests that worked and other countries used them with success.
He is criticized for not buying the test from an American company that had them available for cheaper at the exact same time as the WAPO article clearly suggests.
for your second paragraph: you follow things closely it seems, so you know that it was a CDC decision on why the US didn’t use WHO tests. Go back and even look at Fauci comments from that time.
Geesh talk about me moving goalposts, having a narrative, etc...-
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10 minutes ago, knapplc said:
Weird how NDJ barely posts here anymore, but this guy is suddenly in every thread, every day.
As are you.
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11 minutes ago, commando said:
what do these guys know about healthcare?
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-is-rand-paul-going-to-canada-for-surgery
The story highlights an ongoing, and rising, trend of Americans leaving the country in search of medical care.
U.S. government data suggests that 150,000 to 320,000 Americans travel abroad each year for medical care, what’s known as medical tourism. Other estimates put it at 1.4 million each year.
Americans cite cost savings as the main reason for seeking care in other countries. For people without health insurance — those who would be paying out-of-pocket in the United States — this can be a powerful incentive.
Also from your article
Canada, though, isn’t much of a medical tourism hotspot for Americans… or even for people from other countries.
“We don’t have nearly as much incoming medical tourism as we do departing medical tourism,” said Amy Zarzeczny, an associate professor in the Johnson Shoyama Graduate School of Public Policy at the University of Regina in Saskatchewan.
“Although robust data is difficult to obtain, the sense is that more Canadians leave Canada to receive care elsewhere than we have individuals coming here from outside the country for medical care.”
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7 minutes ago, commando said:
what do these guys know about healthcare?
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-is-rand-paul-going-to-canada-for-surgery
The story highlights an ongoing, and rising, trend of Americans leaving the country in search of medical care.
U.S. government data suggests that 150,000 to 320,000 Americans travel abroad each year for medical care, what’s known as medical tourism. Other estimates put it at 1.4 million each year.
Americans cite cost savings as the main reason for seeking care in other countries. For people without health insurance — those who would be paying out-of-pocket in the United States — this can be a powerful incentive.
From your article:
Paul added in the interview that he chose Shouldice because it offers the surgery that he needed at the right price. The hospital specializes in hernia repair using natural tissue rather than artificial mesh.
The Louisville Courier Journal reports that the procedure in Canada will cost an estimated $5,000 to $8,000.
According to Healthcare Bluebook, a hernia repair in the United States costs between $3,421 and $12,365, or up to $19,179 for a laparoscopic repair.
those costs are comparable. Lower and high ends in the US.
Also from your article:
The story, though, turned out to be much less sensational than the initial hype — Paul will be visiting a private hospital and paying out-of-pocket.
Shouldice Hernia Hospital in Thornhill, Ontario, isn’t entirely private. It also treats Ontario residents who are covered under the Ontario Health Insurance Plan.
Paul struck back at critics saying that his was a free market decision.
“I’m actually choosing capitalistic medicine because they only take cash from foreigners,” he told the Louisville Courier Journal.
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1 minute ago, Moiraine said:
How do so many normal people get duped by healthcare mega corporations' talking points? (And then turn around and blather about "big gov'm't")
What talking points, and what healthcare mega corporations?
we all go to doctors for various reasons. A nice challenge for everyone would be to ask every doctor they see, if they would prefer to practice medicine in a M4A/Canada/European medical model or the system we currently have and keep adjusting it for the better if adjustments are needed.
I see 60 plus in a given month and I think 2 or 3 have said they would prefer that model and those are salaried/employed by a hospital system
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1 minute ago, BigRedBuster said:
I love how you don't even address the real issue.
I think the real issue is that Gov Hogan could have had 5 billion tests available and it wouldn’t have mattered. The capacity to process those tests wasn’t there yet, and that was the main issue.
testing wasn’t fabulous in the beginning. Processing capacity wasn’t fabulous in the beginning. Doctors treating patients in the beginning wasn’t fabulous. It was a Novel Virus. It takes time to develop.
We have been near the top country of tests per 1,000 people since May and currently blow every other country out to the water in test per 1,000 people.
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7 minutes ago, RedDenver said:
This has been debunked over and over.
Has it though?https://www.huffpost.com/entry/canadian-medical-tourism_n_5949b405e4b0db570d3778ff
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7 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:
It's not about them supporting Trump or being republican..that's fine. It's about how ignorant of his outright lies and fabrications they are that is the issue.
And Biden pushing the white supremacy nonsense doesn’t put the radicals on the left into believing that junk?
I read the article, most of the people were Trump economy voters, many said they didn’t like how he talked, 2 dummies brought up Muslim faith, and one neck tattoo guy seemed to be talking gibberish.
9 Biden voters were interviewed yet none of their comments made the article. Why not include reasons they voted for Biden.
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***** Official Election Game Day Thread *****
in Politics & Religion
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Come on, you can make better jokes than that. Kinda weak