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4 minutes ago, ZRod said:

You guys wanna play some goldeneye tonight? I'll bring some Surge.

Slappers only

I'm sure the Nebraska athletics department is running an incredibly complex multifaceted double cross on the media over an alternate jersey. Seems likely.

Is he related to Joseph Randle from Ok State? He was from Wichita as well, I believe.

On 8/7/2021 at 4:46 PM, ColoradoHusk said:

I think the coaches tried to use a Jedi-mind trick (and failed) to use the lure of giving Luke the opportunity to play QB, and then move to a different position when the QB experiment failed. I think the coaches underestimated Luke’s (and maybe his dad’s) stubbornness on playing QB. 

Eh I don't really buy this. We pulled Adrian lots of times when he was playing fine or well to give Luke drives in close games. He got a drive in the second half of the Iowa game! I think our coaches genuinely thought he was even or close to Adrian.

I thought his brother had beef with Mel Tucker for bailing on Colorado? Am I missing something here?

19 minutes ago, Lorewarn said:

 

 

Personally I think the last few years Adidas has really nailed it.

 

The Blackshirt ones were great and appropriately simple, the '97 throwbacks looked great and clean, the 2018 OLD school throwbacks were divisive but I loved them, and the 2016 aways at Northwestern while busy and cheap looking were pretty decent.

 

Did we even wear the away blackshirt uniforms last year? I can't remember.

I loved those 97 throwback ones; let's bust those out again.

12 minutes ago, Bledred said:

The one who tried to back us out of the OU game is now gone.  Trev will be looking for the toughest opponents he can find to fill out our future schedules.  In order to be the best you have to beat the best.  We will not be climbing back into the top 25 by beating Fordham or Akron. 

We're seeing plenty of good teams each year in the West and have to crossover with Ohio State every year. I'm all for playing a marquee non-con game or series every year because it's fun, but we don't really need to add more challenge to our schedule and the other two games should be used to get ourselves right for conference play. Basically no Big Ten West teams ever play anyone with a pulse in non-con.

I've resisted the Ervin hype thus far because it felt like people getting excited about a shiny new thing but fellas I'm getting close to getting on the bandwagon

1 hour ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

Saying we are quite bad in a lot of other areas is literally more negative than saying our quarterback development is lacking. 

Yeah I'm done responding here.

31 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

I agree. But at the risk of dragging this on.....both you and Mav just cited all the things the Huskers are bad at as a way of excusing the QB play. That's some serious negative nellyism right there. 

 

There were also some people pretending Joe Burrow wasn't anything special. Which is silly.

 

So let's do what the Olympic judges do -- throw out the best score and the worst score and take that as the measure. 

1) It's not being negative to state that quarterback play doesn't exist in a vacuum and that we were, in fact, quite bad at a lot of other areas of offense last year, which would affect quarterback play.

2) No one serious was saying that Joe Burrow "wasn't special." They were saying that our coaches followed good process and made a decision that every other staff in the country would have made, and then in an extremely unlikely turn of events Joe Burrow ended up being special. There's a difference between process and results and some posters don't seem to understand that and flatten everything into A/B arguments devoid of context so that they can criticize the staff. When talking about "negativity" that's what we're talking about, not pointing out deficiencies in players. I have no problem with people saying "Adrian Martinez needs to fumble less." That's true! But I do have a problem with "Adrian Martinez fumbles and we had a bunch of backups who got beat out transfer, so that means there's been no quarterback development."

9 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

 

I'm thinking about all the plays last year when Adrian is waiting for receivers to get separation, and a huge chunk of field opens up, and everyone in the stands and watching at home and announcing the game can see 20 yards or more for the taking and starts yelling "run!" but Martinez forces the incomplete pass instead. 

 

I want to see him get back to the "i'll take whatever you're stupid enough to give me" mode that makes dual threat quarterbacks a threat. That makes the pro-set plays work better, too. Opposing DC have a reason to fear Martinez.

Can you provide me some specific examples of him holding the ball too long and not running? Because I've rewatched every game after he took the starting job back over and he almost always made his first read and then looked to scramble if it wasn't there. If anything I felt he was too eager to run and was missing open receivers. 

This was originally a response to Savage Husker but I am deleting because it seems like you guys already addressed these points with him haha

5 minutes ago, Savage Husker said:

It’s inability to create/maintain depth at QB position. 
 

Who was going to play vs Rutgers when LM sat out and all AM did was turn the ball over the first half? Anyone but Rutgers and that was another loss.

 

Vedral was good enough to give a scholarship to, but not enough to play at NU - clearly inability to manage the QB room. 

Vedral was a good backup the staff brought in who was going to be third-string and transferred for a starting opportunity. Can you explain what you think our coaches did wrong there? Are you suggesting they be like: "No, Noah, we need you to turn down this chance to start to stay here in case our first two QBs get hurt."

QBs transfer when they don't get the chance to play. That's college football in 2021 for better or worse.

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

LJS

I don't think individual periods are really tied to the depth chart most places. It'd be a lot more meaningful if he were in there a bunch in team periods.

3 hours ago, internetman said:

I'm not sure we quite understand the texas move at this point. they lose all their power, the money can not be more than in the big12 or even as an independent.

 

its still a big "????" 

With the TV contract the SEC will be able to sign with Texas and OU in the fold it's probably going to be a lot more money than the Big 12, at least.

Please just let this guy shout into the void. It's so stupid we're relitigating this AGAIN.

16 minutes ago, Undone said:

@Guy Chamberlin: I think I'll still probably stick with "unbelievably bad pass protection" for 2019. As is the case in any season, some games were better than others but the Minnesota game sticks out as a great example.

 

We were fifth in the B1G in offensive yards per game in 2019, but were 9th in passing yards per game. Our rushing bailed us out to an extent.

 

Turnovers admittedly hurt us super badly - and some of those were definitely on Martinez. Atrocious special teams hurt, also.

The interior of our O-line was truly atrocious at pass pro in 2019. There was almost immediate rush up the middle in every obvious pass situation. It's the whole reason they moved Farniok to guard.

Rewatching our games, a lot of people's complaints about Adrian are issues that oftentimes stem from the line or receivers. That's not to say he never misses a receiver or read or doesn't do boneheaded stuff every so often, but our pass pro was horrendous at times last year and we had no one getting separation beside Wandale. Overall Adrian is vastly a plus for our offense far more often than he's a negative and if we all expect some improvements in pass pro and at receiver, I think he is primed for a big year.

I'm fully aware that the "Pass was complete/incomplete so the QB must be good/bad" crowd will not care about this but FWIW I think he's about to go off.

1 hour ago, Nebraska55fan said:

 

 

I think MOST of us are tired of the super spin zone and sunshine pumping. We want RESULTS. 

 

I for one am only trusting what I have seen with my own eyes- because that has told me what we really have had each of the last 6 years. Those real world on the field observations has been a very good indicator of how good our players and team are.  Not the overly optimistic cherry picking. 

Considering most of your posts are some combination of wildly incorrect, offensive, or detached from reality, I am going to trust our coaches' evaluations of quarterbacks over yours. Have a good one!

6 minutes ago, Nebraska55fan said:

 

Lots of times- coach speak and remember "best week of practice weve ever had". Add in a QB coach who hasnt made much progress with any of our QBs and its reasonable to be skeptical about a QB averaging 6 yards per attempt and locking on receivers. 

 

I'm optimistic about several of our position groups, QB is not one of them. 

You're basing your evaluation of Smothers off of seeing one out of 15 total spring practices. Our coaches would have brought in a more experienced quarterback via transfer if they though Smothers or Haarberg weren't capable of being a competent backup. 

48 minutes ago, Nebraska55fan said:

 QB star rankings haven't mattered a whole lot here of late. That's why we are skeptical- also for those of us who went to the SPring game. Looking at real life on the field production- not stars- it doesn't look like we have much in the way of QB depth. 

Our coach who sees them play every day did, so I'm going to trust him.

1 hour ago, BigRedBuster said:

Why does it have to be limited to the Frost era?  He's been here for 3 seasons.  That's not much of a sample size to say someone can't get injured and come back.

 

Adrian Petersen is one that I always think about with this.  He got injured several times at OU.  Would come back and then get injured again.  Then, he goes off to the NFL and has a great career fairly injury free.

While there are lingering concerns with certain injuries, guys are usually labeled "injury prone" until they aren't anymore and then no one talks about it. Jurgens has missed two games over two seasons. Stepp played in every game last year and his only two serious college injuries have been missing the last five games of his RFR season after spraining his ankle and missing this spring's camp. As usual this guy is talking some nonsense.

3 hours ago, Undone said:

It's possible that Marvin Scott could really break out and develop some shiftyness to be an "every down, do-it-all back." But as a combination of body type and also with how good his high school tape looked to me I've kind of assumed that Morrison would eventually be our guy. 

 

Is it just me or is basically nobody talking about him?

 

In my opinion the two big-bodied guys we have are unlikely to push us where we need to be at running back. Johnson, while supposedly being one of the top 5 fastest players on the team, hasn't shown a ton of natural RB ability in my opinion. Some might say he hasn't seen enough touches as a Husker to make that judgment and that might be fair but that's just what I've seen.

 

I'll be honest, I see a large running back room with no clear RB1 that sticks out as being someone who launches our offense into the tier it needs to be in right now. Obviously I want to be proven wrong on 8/28.

*joins you on the Scott and Morrison hype train*

16 minutes ago, Mavric said:

From being around him at Fan Day, Sean Callahan thinks Yant has to be at least 250.  

 

That's a big dude.

250 in a "busted his a$$ over the summer and got even more rocked up" way or 250 in a "put on bad weight" way?