uberism

When you look at who transferred out the last couple of years and see what happened to them, one would think kids would start to realize the grass is not greener for the majority of those that transferred. 

K Dylan - no school listed

Cox - no school listed

Stalbird - South dakota state - has not seen the field

Moses Bryant - no school listed

Tony butler - kent state - only played in 4 games for 15 tackles

vedral - rutgers, 1,253 yards passing

chase - portland state - no season

jaiden francois - didn't see the field after a season at UCF

Forbes - Montana - no season

legrone - no school listed

bradly - no school listed

washington - no school liste

hunt - no school listed

woodyard - marshall - 1catch

miles jones - TN - never saw the field

mcquitty - south dakota - no season

jd - tcu - only played in 3 games for 5 catches - no post season invite to anywhere. He claimed to leave to do what is best for his career as a football player. That career appears to be over. 

henry gray - fiu - didn't see the field in 2020

paup - no school listed

jefferson - no school listed

So, the 2020 departures

- 1 basically ruined his football career going to TCU

- 15 didn't have a season in 2020 or didn't find a school (that is publicly found)

-  some might see the field at their current schools in the future, but impact at any of the schools if they were illegible. 

Cole - south dakota state - 1 field goal.

caleb - oregon state - 26 punts after two seasons

smith - no school listed

cam - smu - 14 tackles after 2 seasons

thomas - colorado - has not seen the field

dixon- no school listed

gebbia - was back up for most games but may start this year

bell - had about500 yards rushing

tyjon - only 29 catches after two seasons

roberts - 152 tackles in his college career

When you go through the 2019 departures, you can see that Gebbia will have become possible starter at Oregon state, roberts plays but nobody else that left would have made any difference in Nebraska winning games. 

The main take aways, would have been nice if Gebbia stayed for depth and spot play, if roberts would have put in the work he might have seen some playing time at Nebraska, but other than that we got to see JD ruin his career, and have to replace the freshman DB's that left. 

It's too early to do an analysis on the 2021 departures, but even some of them are not having schools call them - example is Warner where no school is showing interest yet. Haven't heard anything on McCafrey either yet. 

Yeah, WTF is up with the composite? It sick or failed math class?

Really, for Nebraska, what this shows is that there can be a pretty sizeable roster improvement based on how the coaches use the last two spots. We are at 84 scholarships right now (returning seniors not counted) and we would be at 86 after using the next two scholarships. So we would need one player to transfer out and you can find one on the bench. 

If we brought in a QB with more passing yards then McCaffrey, then the QB spot would be a net gain. If we brought in another WR with production, it would be a net gain. 

If we did sign a high school player on Wed and have spot left, it will be a good debate if the last spot should be used on a QB or WR, IMO (coaches may view it differently, I'm just an outsider). 

Incoming production for teach Big Ten West team, besies IL due to a coaching change,  and below what the net loss or net gain is.

Northwestern

QB: 2,391 yards passing and 11 TDS

WR: 1,092 career yards receiving in 3 seasons. 9 TDS receiving

Iowa:

S: 98 total tackles in 3 years.

Minnesota:

LB: 258 tackles, 22.5 tackles for loss, seven sacks and five interceptions

WR: Has not played in a college football game after two seasons.

OG: Started 13 games after 2 seasons.

DL: Played in 55 games, 81 total tackles, 13.5 TFLs,

DL: 29 tackles after 3 seasons.

Wisconsin:

No additions.

Nebraska:

RB: 515 yards, 6 touchdowns rushing. Averaged 1 TD every 16 carries.

WR: 2 years of eligibility remaining. 124 receptions, 1,935 yards receiving, 15 TDs

LB: 79 tackles, 6½ tackles for loss and two sacks in 2019 while playing only 10. Grad transfer. 65 tackles as a true freshman.

Purdue:

RB: 8 yards in one season.

WR: 36 catches in two seasons.

OG: N/A

DL: 4 tackles in two seasons.

LB: 3 tackles in two seasons.

Net gained/loss production for teach Big Ten West team besides IL

Minnesota:

OL: Net gain of 13 career starts.

WR: No gain or loss.

DL: Net gain of 103 tackles, 13.5 TFLs

LB: net gain 258 tackles, 22.5 tackles for loss, seven sacks and five interceptions

Northwestern:

QB: Net gain of 2,391 yards passing and 11 TDS

RB: Net loss of 2,226 rushing yards and 13 total TDs (rushing and receiving)

WR: Net gain of 313 yards receiving and 7 TDs

DB: Net loss of 12 pass breakups, 93 tackles and 1 INT.

Nebraska:

QB: Net loss of 466 yards passing, 1 TD passing, 364 yards rushing and 3 rushing TDs

RB: Net gain of 515 yards rushing and 6 TDs (net loss of 65 if including rushing yards of the WR)

WR: net loss of 2 receptions, net gain of 710 yards receiving, net gain of 12 TDs

OL: No net loss or gain. Senior completed eligibility and taking the "free" year elsehwere

DL: Net loss of 4 tackles.

LB: Net gain of 144 tackles, 6.5 TFLs, 2 sacks

DB: No net loss or gain

Wisconsin:

QB: Net loss 3,278 yards passing, 23 TDs

RB: Net loss of 522 yards rushing, 5 TDs

Purdue:

RB: Net gain 8 yards rushing

WR: 1 transfer completed 4 seasons and playing extra year elsewhere. Net loss of 36 catches.

OL: N/A

Iowa:

RB: Net loss of 1 tackle

WR: No net loss or gain

DB: Net gain 81 tackles

So now the question is, which roster, if any, improved via the transfer portal and which schools did not improve their roster?

Not improve: Purdue, Wisconsin, Northwestern. For Purdue, they didn't bring in anyone that would make a difference. Northwestern lost too much at the RB spot and lost a good defender. instead of fixing those losses, they just added a QB that got benched and a WR. Wisconsin must think they are too goo for the transfer portal but overall they took the biggest roster hit in the division since they lost a bunch of production with no gains and yes they had room for incoming transfers and actually got beat out for transfers. 

Gained:

Minnesota - they brought in better talent in their front 7 on defense. 

Nebraska - improved defensive roster, neutralized pass receiving production, gained yards and TDs, lost the QB depth, but gained in running back production. 

Iowa - when you factor in the net loss or net gained, Iowa improved, albite just a safety so the impact isn't going to factor into the LOS or their rushing attack. 

What I would do since the senior defenders came back, and Avante is heading to Oregon, bring in 2 more offensive weapons to provide Smothers and Martinez with more options. 

Looks like a 6'5'' legacy recruit. I really like the WR offers that wen out yesteray. Large frames, can all move well, good hands, all are productive, all can get can a 50-50 ball. 

BTW, looks like there is a good, big body WR out of North Dakota for the 2022 class. 

4 minutes ago, uberism said:

Looks like this guy could be joining the staff https://thesundevils.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/marcus-castro-walker/4273

Worked with Frost at UCF. 

Looks like this guy could be joining the staff https://thesundevils.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/marcus-castro-walker/4273

Doesn't seem like he is going to be working that Montana State job. He's been offering WR's today and recently. Probably going to get a bigger role with the O at Nebraska. 

21 minutes ago, krc1995 said:

Isn’t he the reason we won that game? 
 

 

You have it backwards. The starter got benched and he got PSU to come back.

Will Levis, the PSU QB that played against Nebraska, is in the portal. Sounds like he is going to be a grad transfer with 3 years left to play. I'd take a look at this one close if I were Frost. 

https://247sports.com/college/penn-state/board/18/Contents/penn-state-qb-will-levis-plans-to-transfer-160109648/

When it comes to Wandale, go back and watch some games and just fast forward to offensive plays. After a while you start to shake your head at how many times he would immediately go down for a tackle when the defender only had one arm out to make the tackle on him. 

In The Big Ten if you can't get extra yards after being touched by a defender you aren't going to have much of any success. It's a very physically conference. 

12 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

Maybe we can use the open spot to hire a full time ST coach so none of the other assistants have to spend time on that.  I would think that would be a consideration.

No. Still need a WR coach if Lubick got the Montana job. 

I have doubts he ends up at that job for one big reason - less pay for more stress (responsibilities). Better off growing as the OC and taking a P5 job if proven success comes. 

I'll never complain about someone going after a head coaching job if the school doing the hiring wants to hire the coach. There are some coaches on the staff that would make me lose sleep if they left, but this isn't the one for the simple reason that Frost runs the offense anyways so you aren't starting from scratch again. 

Frost could just hire a WR coach and Frost run the offense or give a promotion to one of the current offensive assistants to OC and hire a WR only coach. 

Beckton or Held could be given the OC title, for example. 

The real reason McCaffrey left is that he failed to beat out Martinez when he had the chance to do it and chances were Smothers would beat out McCaffrey for 2nd string. You don't go from throwing for over 4k yards and 40 TD's and a lot of rushing yards in high school to being a 3rd string QB your second year on campus. 

Martinez should be around for 2 more years and Smothers will have 4 years. We just need to build depth behind those 2. 

Martinez finished the 2020 season on a strong note. 3 of the last 4 games he complete 75% or better for his passes, finally threw some passing TD's, and averaged 250 yards passing for 2 out of the last 3 games. For him next season, just need the deep ball to come alive and score some passing TD's. 

team beef

Really the main improvements needed are in the deep passing game, redzone scoring touchdowns, special teams, and penalties. All of those are fixable with the 2021 roster. It's a matter of getting it done. 

8 hours ago, Mavric said:

 

Posted this from my phone so I didn't elaborate at the time.

 

Biggest takeaways:

 - Frost C -1 class is the same group as Riley's C 3 class.  Riley's C 2 class lost 47.6%.  Frost's C -1 class lost 55.5%.  Frost's C 1 class (two weeks to put it together) lost 50.0%.  So we were basically missing 1.5 full recruiting classes starting in Frost's second year.

 - Frost's C 2 and C 3 classes are *significantly* lower than the other coaches.  As in, less than half.  And none of the others had COVID to contend with.  Now, there will be more departures before those classes are done.  But there is a lot of regency bias in all the sky-is-falling opinions right now.  

 - In all cases, I'm sure the coaching change played a significant role.  But losing 40% of your class isn't a way to make things get better.  So changing coaches every 3-4 years is unlikely to be a good solution.

I feel that attrition for Frost is actually starting to slow down, not speed up. We have some scholarship guys go in order to get the recruited numbers back down to 85. I'll have to check if we are still over, which we might be, so we may need another one to go yet. 

I think the smart thing to do is nab the best 1 or 2 P5 talents and the best FCS talent that you can get that enters. FCS guys that are legit tend to do it for the NFL draft position. 

With the way the transfer portal works, if I was a head coach I would embras the portal and find ways to use it to your benefit. For example, hire a person full-time where there only responsibility is to study ever new entrant of portal and manage it daily, not just add it to someone elses responsibility. Leave about 3 scholarships open to grab the good talent that goes into the portal and expect at least 5 of your own players to enter it every year. 

3 minutes ago, JoeHuskers! said:

You don't seem to understand "potential". Everyone here knows that he would be better suited at WR than QB. If he had switched and stuck at WR I think its pretty obvious that he is an electric athlete and would have more than the 5 catches and 40 yards he had during the handful of snaps he played at WR/RB.

He doesn't want to play WR so his value from a production standpoint is easily replaceable. Smoothers is almost as fast but also bigger and will run the zone read very well. 

Transfers are not just a Nebraska problem, it's a college football problem. 

Just now, Toe said:

@uberism The interview already happened a few days ago (supposedly), he just didn't get the job.

Not true according to the UGA 247 site. He was under consideration since he is a good coach, but no interview. They are going to offer it to the Wet Virginia guy.