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8 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

 

For sure, I expected an immediate turnaround. But Riley would not have kept rolling at .500 from 2018-2020, he had completely lost the team. And Frost probably does better than 19-19 taking over for Pelini - even if that would've had more to do with a smaller schematic overhaul than any coaching skill. But we'll never really know.

 

I don't think you can take 3 year windows and assume they're the same. But I fully expected bowl season immediately. No one is saying Frost hasn't underachieved, just that he's had more than the usual share of issues and that there are signs of progress. Nothing completely absolves missing a bowl for 3 straight years, but there are plenty of reasons to be hopeful looking forward.

I still think if that first game doesn't get canceled due to the lightning we end up at least 6-6 in 2018 which would have snowballed further. Starting with the close loss to Colorado with no warm up and severe blue balls really threw us down a well it took too long to climb out of.

Flexing on owning two corvettes is way more egregious than admitting to having a regular game of D&D with good friends.

No hate from me there, it's a great time and outlet to be creative and have fun in a social setting. I thought the ignorant caricature of having to be a fat virgin nerd to like things like that died a long time ago but I guess it never completely goes away with some.

16 hours ago, Toe said:

 

Tennessee meets those criteria, none since 2001, same as us. There's also schools like Minnesota and Pitt that were major programs, but went through such stretches, and kept on going...

That's what I was afraid of  

3 hours ago, Hilltop said:

The point you seem to be looking past is that ALL major programs go through what we are going through right now.  Bad stretches where they are trying to figure out the right recipe to get back on top.    

I haven't seen a major program go through a 19 year stretch with zero top ten finishes, zero conference championships, and zero major bowl appearances. Who/when are you referring to?

3 hours ago, seaofred92 said:

This is pretty crazy

 

 

This reminds me of a high school game of mine. We were playing Cedar Rapids in a holiday tournament, and ended up winning 51-50 on a buzzer beater rebound tip in. My best friend who hit the game winning shot had 25 points, our captain/point guard had 24 points, and I had 2  that was our total scoring output hahaha.

7 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

1 second separated us and Texas the last time either was truly relevant.  Take a look at their stretch before Mac Brown.  They were down for a long time.  It happens because it's hard to be consistently good.  We have had a rough 6 years.  While it isn't anything we are used to as a fan base, it happens everywhere and it especially sucks to be a fan during it- however an end is in sight if you choose to see it.  

We weren't relevant in 2009 outside of that one second and Suh. Texas was playing to go to the national championship, we were playing to be an underdog cinderella - don't equate those as the same.

2001 was the last time we were relevant. 20 years ago, here's what's happened since:

Since then, Texas has had seven top 10 finishes, two conference championships, five major bowl appearances/wins, and one national championship.

Nebraska has had zero, zero, zero, and zero.

5 minutes ago, RichardHangslow said:

Oh well forgive me but this doesn't seem like a conversation that ever needs to be had. I can't find any reason for why we should end the sellout streak. Nor will I ever entertain any ideas for why we should. However it is the offseason so knock your socks off.

 

 

I don't think we should actively end it, just see it for what it is and not freak out if/when it does end someday.

3 hours ago, Hilltop said:

Is that so different from Nebraska's over the same stretch?  9 top 25 finishes.  4 top 15 finishes.  We have finished 1st in our division 7 times in that span.  We won 1 of them and many feel 2 others should have (Texas and Oklahoma games).    

 

My point is the doom and gloom crowd can't see the big picture.  It's very normal for teams to go through long stretches trying to find the right leadership.  It very difficult to do.  See Tennessee, Texas, Florida State, USC, etc...  

 

If Frost ends up not being the guy to lead Nebraska back to glory, someone else will eventually.  Again, I truly believe Frost will be the guy if our leadership gives him the time to get there.     

The big picture for me points out that our long stretch is somewhat unique compared to all other historically successful long stretches in that while the averages are similar, they still had pockets and flashes of occasionally reaching high. Texas has only been struggling for a decade and still has a top 10 finish and NY6 bowl win in there. USC was Pac-12 champs and top 10 four years ago, and #5 and Rose Bowl champs the year before that. Florida State won a national championship and got to the playoff in the last decade. Tennessee sucks with no signs of progress, which is sadly the same boat we're in

We have zero top ten finishes, zero conference championships, zero major bowl appearances let alone wins since 2002. 

31 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

Take one very popular team right now.  From 1983 - 2006 their average record was 8-4 and they went through 6 coaches. 

But they also had 12 Top-15 Finishes (2 vacated), 3 Conference Championships and 1 National Championship over that 23 years.

6 minutes ago, Redux said:

A) Who buys the tickets is completely irrelevant, but I figured that didn't need explanation.

B) Whehter or not the seat is empty for the entire game, half of it or less doesn't negate a ticket being sold.

You're right in that that doesn't need explanation, and you don't need to explain to me what a sell out IS. I understand that just fine. I just said that it doesn't seem to be that valuable.

4 minutes ago, Redux said:

It speaks volumes to a fanbases dedication considering the performance of the team in question for over 2 decades.  It's for the fans BY the fans.

 

Which makes it even more perplexing when the fans try to s#!t on it.

Does it, though? Maybe a little bit, but it's only a technicality.

Notre Dame's streak obviously didn't speak volumes to their fans dedication because us and Georgia and others have exposed that more than once. Rich boosters and banks and car dealerships buying up tickets when we suck and it's in jeopardy doesn't speak to the fanbase dedication.

I'll put it this way. I had no idea Notre Dame's sellout streak ended, and I don't think their fans got any less dedicated or passionate in between their last sellout and the next game that wasn't sold out.

31 minutes ago, knapplc said:

 

It's only ever been advertised to be what it is - every ticket sold for the game.  

I know what it is, technically speaking, I'm just wondering about how valuable such a thing is. It's a neat thing to tell a friend who knows nothing about our program and history, kind of a shortcut to comprehension of our fans, but outside of that it doesn't seem to be worth much.

16 minutes ago, Redux said:

 

Sell out is a sell out 

So if a sell out is a sell out, but a sell out can still count if you have a third empty stadium, or your stadium gets taken over by 50%+ of the other team's fans...

doesn't seem like a sell out is worth very much.

50 minutes ago, Redux said:

"THE SELLOUT STREAK DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!"

 

In 2019, Notre Dame's sellout streak of 273 ended.  Notre Dame who has played in 2 playoffs and a BCS championship game.  Nebraska is closing in on 400.

 

Yeah, means nothing 

This Notre Dame?

3 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Fans tend to get spoiled once they've won it all. They have high standards, and want to see them maintained. Little chinks in the armor are all they have to complain about. Sadly, over the past 20 years our fan base has continued to lower and lower their standards, and those who still have those same original high standards are persecuted.

Persecuted is a very strong word. Even if it's an accurate one, maintaining the same standards of excellence from a program that doesn't have the infrastructure or talent or stability or resources to achieve excellence is, by definition, unreasonable.

Your expectations should be commensurate with the building blocks and landscape context they're based on or related to. 

Which will happen first?

The Ole Miss quarterback gets his $10,000 booking fee

or

Nebraska55fan reminds us how he successfully predicted all of this for the 10,000th time

1 hour ago, Cdog923 said:

 

Again, false. Frost has averaged a 20th ranked class on 247 and a 17.8 ranked class on Rivals, whereas Callahan averaged an 18.8 class on 247 and a 16.25 class on Rivals. 

That's...what I said.

If you use Callahan's Rivals ranking vs Frost's 247, Callahan wins, but if you use his Scout/247 ranking against Frost's Rivals, he doesn't.

17 minutes ago, Cdog923 said:

 

False. 

I guess you're right, Solich's first four were a better average than Frost's. Callahan has massive disparities between different services - if you go with Rivals for him compared to 247 for Frost he wins out, but if you go with Scout or PrepStar or ESPN he does not. Still, per some, the best since we were still a top 10, 11+ win program.

Solich

1998 - #10

1999 - #25

2000 - #12

2001 - #14

Frost 

2021 - #20 247 / #18 Rivals

2020 - #20 / #17 Rivals

2019 - #17 / #15 Rivals

2018 - #23 / #21 Rivals

1 hour ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

LOL - funny... I've been told that my realistic views and stances on things make me a Debbie Downer  One thing about Nebraska fans in general is that they hate negativity or pessimism of any kind, even if it's warranted.

I'd say the opposite - we collectively are incredible at finding the pessimistic lens to look through even when we're winning 10-11-12 games.

14 hours ago, KC Sker said:

I've also stated if we really wanted a quick fix we needed to give saben, Myer or Bob stoops a blank check and get the F out of the way. We obviously won't do that

I don't think it's that we won't do that as much as it's that none of them would come here. Wal-Mart's board members can say, "All we need to do is hire Jeff Bezos and he'll make us good!" and yeah I guess they're right that in the hypothetical he would, but in the real world that's a waste of time to think about.

11 hours ago, Dr. Strangelove said:

His recruiting is mediocre

His recruiting is the best of any coach since Osborne as far as average ranking over a four year period.

11 hours ago, KC Sker said:

We have made our self a laughing stock of a program. We have fired not 1, but 2 coaches that had consistent 9+ win seasons. That's a bad look and I doubt many coaches that are worth a damn want to walk into that situation.

Different athletic departments and athletic directors and the last one was 7 years and much higher expectations ago. 

On 7/4/2021 at 11:07 AM, BigRedN said:

Couldn't agree more.  As "tough" as the they say our schedule is ... if we are as "improved" as Scott and the players say we are ... 4-1 is done.  Also, we will look good in all those wins and we won't be embarrassed by Oklahoma.  The next two weeks are both home games.  With the mindset that I'm hearing, I just can't comprehend how we don't beat Northwestern.  Michigan is a winnable game as well.  The next week is at Minny.  I really don't see any reason we don't go 2-1 in that stretch, which puts us at 6-2 or possible 7-1 [again ... in how I'm being sold that we are headed in the right direction and showing progress].  Purdue [the next week] would be an easy win.  We are 7-2 or 8-1.  Then, we lose to OSU and my guess is would go 1-1 against Wisky and Iowa at worst.  That puts us at three losses [four at max].

I don't see any other way we lose more than 4 games.   We then go to a bowl and win it ... and the Huskers have a season that shows we have turned the corner.  That sounds all good and great to me.  If the progress is all there then we are gonna see some clean, disciplined football and a sense that Scott has "restored the order" [in a limited sense].

I think we will have excuses at the end of the season [like we had the 2nd toughest schedule, etc].  :-)

 

We can have more than 3 or 4 losses without B.S. excuses. An entire season is its own entity that is more than the aggregated sum of all the individual games.

This is where we often get disappointed as fans because we only look at it in terms of single game units instead of one large thing, which can drastically change based off of very difficult to quantify elements.

Also, please never say 'Restore The Order' again lol

Don't think we've ever seen a team sport athlete with the same ability to just decide on something and then inflict it at will.

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6 hours ago, HANC said:

Funny you used “out bid”. I used the same wording in a conversation this morning. College athletics is now a bidding war

College athletics has always been a bidding war. It used to be a bidding war, and it still is a bidding war, in which players are more free and able to do better for themselves.

2 hours ago, VizionNE said:

Over estimating the impact.... You don’t think this changes recruiting? 

Saying that someone is over-estimating something doesn't mean that you don't think that something exists at all...

Man y'all are making this southerner miss Taco Johns!

I like Taco Bell fine but the main reason I don't eat there often is they don't have a solid side item. Potato Ole's are incredible.