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People who do and are supporting Hamas are at best stupid and at worst tragically morally compromised and dangerous. They're also a distinct minority.

People who do and are supporting Israel carte blanche with zero criticism towards their illegal occupation of land that isn't theirs, the apartheid they are actively engaged in and their war crimes are also at best stupid and at worst tragically morally compromised and dangerous.

One's a terrorist organization that is by and large labeled and admonished as such, the other is a nation state with the blessing and support of the US and much of the developed world. Both have degrees of evil and horrendous amounts of blood on their hands. Regardless, as JJ said, massacring civilians is neither decolonization nor self-defense.

14 minutes ago, I am I said:

just found it interesting after watching the docu and hearing this speech, on this thread. One is detrimental and one is uplifting. 
 

great Netflix show about those gator teams tho…I kept thinking: where is the national press docu on the 93-97 Cornhuskers? 
 

anyway, watch that series and compare. 

ESPN tried doing a 30 for 30 on the 90's nebraska teams but more or less shelved it after too many folks refused to cooperate with it (ie, tell truths that osborne and co. would rather not have be told)

And the netflix florida doc is entertaining if you're a college football nut but it's little more than an urban meyer PR fluff piece that conveniently glosses over every single ugly element of that tenure.

2 hours ago, teachercd said:

Stewart understands comedy.  That is why he was so good.  

I am not a big Bill Maher fan but he gets comedy too.

 

Gregg Kinnear would have KILLED it on a "Daily Show" type show.

The thing that set Stewart apart was his enneagram 8 vibe. He had an angry energy about him that felt righteous - others have certain elements he had (self deprecation being a big one), but he would channel his rage into a safe bite size piece of entertainment and info and aim it anywhere something was bulls#!t. Oliver's show is great with some of the best writing and researching we've ever seen in this format, and I like him and his delivery fine, but he's too 'aww shucks laugh at me too' to ever scratch the same itch that the Daily Show did.

25 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Based response by Ben on the current Middle East crisis. 

 

 

Ben has always had a great handle on words and this is no exception. 

5 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

Some cogent thoughts here. A few highlights:

I don’t believe Hamas is killing Israelis to liberate themselves, nor do I believe they are doing it to make peace. They're doing this because they represent the devil on the shoulder of every oppressed Palestinian who has lost someone in this conflict. They're doing it because they want vengeance. They are evening the score, and acting on the worst of our human impulses, to respond to blood with blood — an inclination that is easy to give in to after what their people have endured. It should not be hard to understand their logic — it is only hard to accept that humans are capable of being driven to this. Not defending Hamas is a very low bar to clear. Please clear it.

The Arab states had already rejected a partitioned Israel repeatedly before World War II and rejected it again after the Holocaust and the end of the war. They did not want to give up even a little bit of their land to a bunch of Jewish interlopers who were granted it all of a sudden by British interlopers who had arrived a hundred years prior. Who could blame them? It had been centuries since Jews lived there in large numbers, and now they wanted to return in waves as secularized Europeans. Many of us would probably react the same way. So, just as humans have done forever, they fought. The many existing Arab states turned against the burgeoning new Jewish state. One side won and one side lost. This is the brutal and broken and violent world we live in, but it is what created the global world order we have now.

Are Israelis and British people "colonizers" because of this 20th century history? Sure. But that view flattens thousands of years of history and conflict, and the context of World War I and World War II. I don’t view Israelis and Brits as colonizers any more than the Assyrians or the Babylonians or the Romans or the Mongols or the Egyptians or the Ottomans who all battled over the same strip of land from as early as 800 years before Jesus’s time until now. The Jews who founded Israel just happened to have won the last big battle for it.

And yet, many Americans only view modern Israel as the "powerful" one in this dynamic. Which is true — they obviously are. It isn't a fair fight and it hasn't been for decades because Israel's government is rich and resourceful, has the backing of the United States and most of Europe, and has an incredibly powerful military. At the same time, Israeli leadership has made technological and military advancements that have further tipped those scales — all while the Israeli government has helped create a resource-thin open air prison of two million Arabs in Gaza.

Conversely, Palestinians are devoid of any real unified leadership, and the Arab world is now divided on the issue of Palestine. Israel is unwilling to give the people in Gaza and the West Bank more than an inch of freedom to live. These are largely the refugees and descendents of the refugees of the 1948 and 1967 wars that Israel won. And you can't keep two million people in the condition that those in the Gaza strip live in and not expect events like this.

I'm sorry to say that while the blood on the ground is fresh. The Israelis who were killed in this attack largely have nothing to do with those conditions other than being born at a time when Israel and Jews have the upper hand in this conflict. Some of the victims weren’t even Israeli — they were just tourists. This is why we describe them as “innocent” and why Hamas has only reaffirmed that they are a brutal terror organization with this attack — an organization that I hope is quickly toppled, for the sake of both the Palestinian people and the Israelis. But as someone with a deep love for Israel, with friends in danger and people I know still missing, it breaks my heart to say it but I'm saying it again because it remains perhaps the most salient point of context in a tangled mess full of centuries of context:

You cannot keep two million people living in the conditions people in Gaza are living in and expect peace.

You can't. And you shouldn’t. Their environment is antithetical to the human condition. Violent rebellion is guaranteed. Guaranteed. As sure as the sun rising.

And the cycle of violence seems locked in to self-perpetuate, because both sides see a score to settle:

Am I pro-Israel or pro-Palestine? I have no idea.

I'm pro-not-killing-civilians.

I'm pro-not-trapping-millions-of-people-in-open-air-prisons.

I'm pro-not-shooting-grandmas-in-the-back-of-the-head.

I'm pro-not-flattening-apartment-complexes.

I'm pro-not-raping-women-and-taking-hostages.

I'm pro-not-unjustly-imprisoning-people-without-due-process.

I'm pro-freedom and pro-peace and pro- all the things we never see in this conflict anymore.

3 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Not really.  Applaud the effort however.  Interesting you equate Hamas to the CIA though.   

I did no equating, and you know perfectly well what I meant and also how reductionist and unhelpful and elementary your take that I was responding to was.

Are you ready to try and actually dive in to the complicated nature of this decades old conflict with terrible actors and compromised narratives on both sides like we all know you're capable of if you try hard and give up your obstinate schtick?

Let's start with a tough one - when is killing innocent civilians considered terrorism and when is killing innocent civilians an act of war? What's the difference between the two?

7 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

50-60% of Palestinians support Hamas.  Another way to say that is over half that population supports a terrorist organization. 
 

https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87

52-64% of Americans have a favorable opinion of the CIA. Another way to say that is over half our population support war crimes and torture.

Now, of course, that is a stupid and disingenuous way of framing it that we obviously know isn't true.

28 minutes ago, teachercd said:

There is a big % of Palestinians that "support" Hamas though, so I could see where there would be some grey area when it comes to supporting.  

This is true, and it's another layer that's complicated. Some support Hamas because plenty of people in the world are either idiots or a$$h@!es or both. Some support because they believe in redemptive violence the same way most Americans do and see Israel as the party at fault to which they are responding and resisting. Plenty of other good and bad and understandable-even-though-its-wrong factors at play.

Ultimately folks who support something bad have the same right to liberty and freedom and self-determination as those who don't, regardless of where or who they are.

5 minutes ago, funhusker said:

I think realizing that life in Palestine is harder for normal folks that live there largely due to the Israeli government is a far cry from supporting Hamas.  Stupid people think that doing one means they have to do the other.  They are dumb.

We're seeing it in real time even in this thread.

Supporting Palestine is supporting the normal human beings who, despite any disagreements or different ways of seeing the world, have been denied any hope or ability for self-determination in their lives and have to fight like hell just to survive, because of nothing they did other than exist. It's not supporting terrorism, or brutal and unjust rulers, or war, and it's also not in conflict with supporting Israelis. 

Based Bernie response.

2 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Welp
 

 

Take your pick on whether I stand corrected or I stand acknowledging that using the word nobody rarely (and didn't in this case) refers to literally not a single person alive.

This is sick and shameful. But look at all of the replies:

"Shame on you. Totally discrediting the BLM cause.

"How is this any different than posting a Nazi symbol? Clearly a violation of TOS."

"For those who support the safety and well-being of Israelis, Palestinians, and Black Americans, this post is sickening.

It is also harmful to the cause of Black Americans."

"One of the worst posts I've ever seen"

"The image suggests you stand with Hamas, not Palestine. 
Do better."

"I deeply regret ever marching for BLM."

"imagine posting an image of a plane heading into the twin towers the day after 9/11 with the caption "I stand with afghanistan""

"This is vile. I don’t know how I’m surprised you went this low."

40 minutes ago, nic said:

Upset no. Making fun of them. Yes. Wasn't the UN partially responsible of establishing Israel in 1948?

Here's a map of 1948 

and here's a map of now

31 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

It’s amazing a Palestinian terrorist organization had any sympathy to begin with. 

Nobody has any sympathy for Hamas  

17 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

I’m not so sure that the people in power of the Israeli people don’t want peace as someone said.  Why would they prefer to want war and have their citizens slaughtered by Hamas instead of living as a peaceful country?

If they actually wanted peace they would at least legitimately entertain the notion to stop being an illegal occupying force engaging in apartheid after 50+ years.

5 minutes ago, DevoHusker said:

Former PM Golda Meir said "If the Palestinians lay down their weapons, there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their weapons, there will be a massacre."

Kind of hard to take totally seriously when you look at the casualty counts over a longer period of time than just one week.

4 minutes ago, teachercd said:

I got a feeling the peace is right around the corner...

 

Oh wait, no it isn't, they will never stop fighting.   Will they?

Unfortunately not. Too many who occupy positions of power in Israel and in Hamas don't actually want peace.

11 hours ago, Waldo said:

It comes down to the QB position. I legit can’t remember the last QB that I felt confident in who wouldn’t/couldn’t lose the game on his own. T-Marts freshman year maybe (was electric)? We’ve had some poor QB play for the better part of two decades. 

Then you're not remembering right. Taylor put the team on his back and won us some close games in 2012, and Tommy rarely ever lost us games and the few he did he was the only reason we were still in them. He wasn't an all-conference caliber like Taylor was but he was a quarterback that could be and was trusted to take care of the team.

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

Because that means that we won several games over teams I'd like to beat.  

also means there will be no shortage of overly-hasty expectations to be in top form in year 2

don't get me wrong i want the team to maximize their potential at every step of the way i can just see the annoyance in my temples now of how stupid our fanbase will get if we win the west this year and then go only 7-5 next year.

1 hour ago, teachercd said:

For the most part there are what, 7-10 "name" cities?

 

NY

Chicago

LA

Dallas

Boston

San Fran

Houston

add 3 more...

 

And then after that all of the cities are pretty much the same.  I can see where a New Yorker would think that Des Moines or Omaha were going to be lame tiny cities, until they get there.  But like if you are not in one of those 7-10 cities, the difference is almost nothing. 

 

 

Cities in the midwest are all quite similar, but the differences between San Diego and Charleston and Savannah and Portland and Memphis etc. are pretty pronounced.

What percentage of the population has the purchasing power to buy a new custom built home btw, just out of curiosity? 

And what percentage do new custom built homes make up in the entire housing market?

5 minutes ago, commando said:

you get what you pay for.   

and the point being made is that at this time in our country what you pay is a f#&% ton and what you pay for is cheap s#!t that isn't designed to last longer than a 30 year mortgage at best

1 hour ago, commando said:

todays average house is approximately 2,500 sq ft and built much better than those homes were.   

strong disagree

9 minutes ago, teachercd said:

Cookie Cutter homes of today are piles of s#!t

strong agree

14 minutes ago, GSG said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All I could find

Nice work, bummer that his list of what sounds/when seems to be lost forever.

Apologies if there's a more recent thread in another forum

Since Nebraska seemed to forget to turn in their assignment for getting EA a list of stadium sounds, I was wondering if one of the power users of the board could look back and find the list/database from years back where someone made a comprehensive list of sounds in different situations? I know someone made this back in the day, maybe @huskeraddict?

3 hours ago, Loebarth said:

Not sure Fitz has a leg to stand on. Time will tell but I do think the University's post says it all. Fitz was accountable.

idk, the school probably opened itself up somewhat with their actions once the allegations came forward. 

36 minutes ago, BigRedBuster said:

 

 

Found Matt Gaetz' dad.

3 minutes ago, ColoradoHusk said:

I immediately thought about the dealer being able to sell these vehicles, and jacking up the price cuz it’s all UTED OUT.  It’s also probably a wrap on the vehicle and can easily be taken off before selling.

Dealer can also be like, "Cam Rising drove this baby to the stadium the day we won the Pac-12 Championship"