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1 hour ago, Nebfanatic said:

And Frost wasn't good at either of those things 

He did one of them well when he first got here. People would constantly be posting videos of him talking to military recruits, or town halls, or whoever, and remarking on what a great motivation speaker and inspirational leader he was.

On 11/28/2022 at 7:14 PM, Rhuletheday said:

 

We better be 4-0 going into the Michigan game.  Must wins for me are Minnesota, Colorado, NI, LA Tech, Northwestern, Iowa.  If any of these games are losses...Houston, we have a problem. 

This is, frankly, an absurd and delusional take. If nothing else, Minnesota is a solid, disciplined team and we will rightfully be underdogs in that game. In addition, you have no idea what Colorado will look like next year and Northern Illinois is usually not a terrible program.

semi unrelated but i'd love to see the overlap of how many posters were clamoring for Urban being on record that they don't care about his personal stuff at the expense of winning who are now rightfully condemning Mickey.

3 minutes ago, Husker03 said:

what I am certain of is that if he can not get it done, and I mean this... Nobody can get it done.

huge numbers of us said the same thing about frost. it wasn't true then and it's not true now

2 hours ago, gobiggergoredder said:

The rest of the examples have something we have not be given yet.....Evidence which gives you charges.  It'll come.  But any conclusion drawn upon absolutely zero evidence is lazy and ignorant.

You know Mickey Joseph was arrested and charged, right? You think that happens without evidence? 

Also, once again, Enhance is talking about the likelihood of what will happen. Mickey isn't fired with cause today, and we're not operating as if he is. It's just a matter of exploring what's likely to come.

5 hours ago, HANC said:

 It is a horrible look for the university, but like we didn’t already look bad. 

I don't think it's a horrible look for the university at all. If anything, I'd say public perception wise it's closer to a net positive - this has come as a massive shock to everyone inside and outside of Nebraska and nobody representing the program has offered up defense for him while Trev decisively put him on leave. 

4 hours ago, gobiggergoredder said:

But if you believe firing someone based upon an accusation is just, which is where this all started, there is nothing for us to discuss/debate.  It’s flat out dangerous.

The conversation actually did not start at whether firing someone based on an accusation is just or not. It started in regards to whether the firing is likely or not - it being 'just' wasn't a part of that conversation.

What you can't seem to get is regardless of if it's just, if it's following the terms of the contract, it's doable. If his contract states one cause he could be fired for is if someone accuses him of being an alien from the horsehead nebula, and then someone does claim that, even if it's not true, he can still be fired with cause. Similarly but less hyperbolically, if his contract has language surrounding bringing bad PR to the university or getting into legal trouble as fireable offenses, which it likely does, then he will be fired with cause.

3 hours ago, gobiggergoredder said:

You alluded he should be fired.  With no investigation, evidence or follow up.  I work in America.  It’s unfortunate that “Due Process” is somehow bizarre.

Enhance did not allude to how Mickey should be fired. He alluded to the likely probability that he will be fired. Quit making such audacious claims while simultaneously failing in having average reading comprehension.

21 minutes ago, gobiggergoredder said:

No they don’t.  You are absolutely pulling stuff out of that place.  
 

You need cause or you’re 100% setting yourself up for a lawsuit.

Yeah, and the cause doesn't have to be a good one - just an agreed upon one in the contract. 

Contracts include clauses like this all the time.

To be clear I'm not making any accusations at all. I have no clue if it's true or not, but if you filter through the LPD calls from today there is a hit for a 'simple assault' call to his block. 

https://cjis.lincoln.ne.gov/HTBIN/CGI.com

I won't post a link to the county website where you can see his registered ownership of his house/address but an assault call to a block where he owns a house is something sourced from government websites.

rumor mill swirling that a domestic violence incident is connected to his wife deleting her twitter and the tweet/rumor of him being arrested

So it sounds like we were misinterpreting the Peetz/Mickey details and it's basically a situation of we can only take one of the two?

There's currently zero smoke on Raiola staying other than a recruit tagging him, which is very very very little to go off of. Kid probably just made a mistake or doesn't know.

6 minutes ago, deedsker said:

Did he just grab some really good talent nobody saw early at Cincy or did he develop players like no other? This last year is kind of a red flag that maybe Fickell isn’t the sure fire coaches he is being made out to be. 

Come on. His resume is outstanding. Three one score losses against a better-than-their-record Arkansas, #22 UCF and #18 Tulane (in the last game of the season where Fickell was surely distracted with contract negotiations). That's a really good season, don't let him going 44-7 in the previous four years work against him. 

Elite position coach and coordinator who worked under two elite head coaches and then has been almost only elite with his first real head opportunity at a G5.

Rattler isn't coming here FYI. The source of that rumor is a troll 'reporter' and it wouldn't make any sense for him as he's already used the transfer portal once and would have to sit out a year.

1 hour ago, ColoradoHusk said:

My one concern about Mickey being retained and going back to WR coach and AHC is that there could be a core group of players who would still look at Mickey as “their head coach”. I am not saying Mickey would be divisive, but it could just happen naturally with the way the players are.  That would undermine Rhule’s ability to create the program how he wants it to be. That’s why it may be best for the long-term to have a clean break and move forward with a completely new staff. 

Mickey wouldn't let that happen. 

13 minutes ago, ndobney said:

I give the hire a D minus which is the 2nd highest grade I had for any of the hires cause he has done some rebuilding. 
 

Urban Meyer would have been an A plus

Who would have been a B-

2 hours ago, gossamorharpy said:

The concept of character left the college football landscape in the 90s.  

Is that when it left you as an individual as well? 

3 hours ago, lo country said:

Didn't Riley get some crazy low ball salary after he got fired and we still had to pay?

Yes. He went back to Oregon State to be an assistant head coach or consultant depending on the source, and his salary was $50,004 per year.

2 hours ago, Huskerfollower4life said:

Please tell me what that picture means?

Don't know what it means but the address is 40 w 57th street NY NY

52 minutes ago, Enhance said:

Fun fact - I went to Frost's first game against Colorado. For the record, I didn't have a single alcoholic drink that day.

 

Near the end of the 3rd quarter and into the 4th, I started having vision issues like I've never had before. I started seeing a small black mass everywhere I looked. And if I looked directly at a player on the field, it was almost like they'd disappear and I'd just see the grass in front of/behind them.

 

By the time the game ended, I had the worst headache of my life, the continued vision issues, and nausea. I had to lay on a campus bench for almost 30 minutes to collect myself after I got out of the stadium. When we got to the parking garage, I threw up in a trash can.

 

TLDR I got my first migraine ever that day. It was awful. I spent my entire evening on my couch with the lights off, in misery. If that's not foreshadowing...

So my secret super duper migraine laser video camera worked!

54 minutes ago, Enhance said:

And think about this from Rhule's perspective - he'd have to be out of his damn mind to shut down a guaranteed $40 million in exchange for at best half of that.

But that guarantee is still guaranteed though..

I agree with all your points but in a theoretical world where Rhule takes this job for a 2mil base salary and doesn't hit any incentives, he's still getting 8mil per year from Carolina. 

15 minutes ago, Guy Chamberlin said:

Do you really know kids who are doing this on college apps?  More than one?  Even one by name? 

completely unrelated to the shooting story, but people on dating apps do s#!t like this all the time. I mean, it's a very small percentage of people, but it absolutely happens - plenty of gay men put their gender as female so they show up in straight men's potential matches as an example.

I was there too. Was lucky enough to get a media pass and film the game, just for fun so no pressure. Was my first time ever shooting football and part of the reason I'm so bummed about Frost is I never got to do anything with that footage

Here's two of the clips for posterity

https://imgur.com/07qyiyy

https://imgur.com/6BCJuKH

15 minutes ago, Decked said:

Saw last night that the shooter identifies publicly as non-binary. If actually true would be quite interesting especially if applied to a statement like this.

People are just as capable of being led to hate themselves due to hysteria and fear-mongering and toxic narratives as they are to hating others.

3 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

One would think by your words that you believe someone who calls a trans woman a man is purposely trying to denigrate that person.  If I’m wrong please correct.  
 

If so you should apply that same standard to a person that calls someone else other than their chosen name because it is also trying to denigrate that person.   Calling Ron, Rhonda or Trump, Orange man bad, or Biden, Mush brain etc.  

They're both examples of denigrating.

They're not both clear violations of twitter's user agreement rules at the time.

1 minute ago, Archy1221 said:

So those people should be banned from twitter based on the old rules, correct?   

Would depend on their history and context. It's exceptionally easy to tell the difference between that and what the Babylon Bee did. Much easier than any impressive contortionist act to bend the pedantry enough to claim they're equally in violation of the same rule.