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3 hours ago, Enhance said:

I wasn't really talking about examples of the N word being used in some type of movie or pop culture format. That's not really in the same vein as what we've been talking about IMO. I was talking about someone using the word in a more real life situation.

At best Rogan is 50/50 "real life" compared to pop culture format.

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

On the podcast, he's speaking to an audience from a position of authority

He doesn't present himself as such, and often disclaims that he ISN'T an authority, so if that happens that is 100% the burden of responsibility on the listener.

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

In much the same way the guy in the White House has a responsibility not to tell people to take chloroquine.

I.... don't think a stand up comedian/MMA fighter with a podcast has anything even close to responsibility "in the same way" as an elected government official who has sworn an oath. 

1 hour ago, knapplc said:

The point of Rogan's show is that he's giving you the honest truth. People have posted segments of his show right here in this forum as truthful and honest.

 

It's a bit late to come back and say he's only there for entertainment. 

The spirit of being truthful in regards to who you are and where you're at is a very different thing than truth as a set of objective material facts. I don't think people find Rogan truthful in the sense of only regurgitating all correct information - if they do, again, that's on them.

Rogan's truth and honesty comes in his lack of lying to himself and to his audience, not in being an expert or being right. It's an obvious contrast against the purposeful and willful agenda setting of corporate or mainstream gatekept media. 

7 hours ago, Enhance said:

Is there an example of someone saying it publicly in the last 30 years (and by publicly... I mean in a large format of diverse, free thinking people) and NOT being heavily criticized?

Not to try and steer the conversation entirely this way (more just trying to keep it light), but I've seen a number of instances that were pretty hilarious, or at least didn't receive any blowback, but only because the joke is very specifically on the ignorance and idiocy of (white) folks who would actually use the word.

Content warning for the n-word

19 minutes ago, Ulty said:

But more likely, a lot of @ssholes will probably just complain about cancel culture and not even try to learn anything. 

The only thing to learn here imo is how easily and successfully people are being manipulated into rage in the exact time/place/subject of outrage that powerful organizations want them to be angry at.

If you're not going to bother with big furniture and such, one thing I found out is that you can actually ship boxes on Greyhound busses for extremely cheap! As long as it's in a box and can be lifted by someone/slide into their bus storage bays, they'll ship it and usually have options to pay a little more to come straight to your doorstep on the front or back or both ends of the trip. Saved myself hundreds of dollars moving everything that didn't fit in my car from Chicago to ATL years back.

6 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

I don’t know.  You tell us.  Neither applies to me.  Maybe you have better insight based on your own experiences 

If I knew the answer, why would I ask it as a question? 

I don't know. You tell me.

7 minutes ago, Enhance said:

I guess I have a fundamentally different lived experience than this. I'm not disregarding your perspective Redux, but it is no way relatable to me which is why I'm pretty dumbfounded by Rogan's remarks. And it's not like Omaha has been some cancel culture hot bed for 30 years.

 

For my teenage to now adult life, that word was an absolute no-no. I don't remember anything about it from being a kid. I probably didn't know the word. But, it didn't matter where I was or who I was with. If you said that to a black person, even in the colloquial form, you were getting your a$$ beat. If you said it at work, you were getting fired. If you said it in casual conversation with friends, you were going to get weird looks.

 

My wife's grandpa used to let it fly in conversation, but he was an objective racist. Even my cousin (who for some reason has used that word for a lot of his life) knows to never say it in public and never has.

 

I guess I can see the perspective that some people might use it behind closed doors for some weird reason. But, in my lived experience for 32 years, I've never known a time where it was just "frowned upon" to use that word. Just very, very bizarre to me.

 

Growing up in Nebraska outside of Lincoln/Omaha and almost entirely removed from knowing any black people whatsoever my experience is entirely different than this.

It's never been exactly "common" in the rural vernacular, but it's definitely something I said and heard said plenty through my first 20 years of life. Almost exclusively in the form of jokes or for a laugh. I think 4th grade was when I remember learning what it was and that "it's a really bad word for black people" and of course we all started calling each other by it because every new bad word we learned we immediately started saying.

28 minutes ago, RedDenver said:

Rogan is also asking ridiculous questions and having less knowledgeable and even charlatans on as well as knowledgeable people.

This is all true and honestly who cares? It's entertainment.

3 hours ago, Archy1221 said:

Is it? 

Is it?

Is "I've called out Trump before" the new political version of "I'm not a racist I have a black friend"

1 hour ago, Redux said:

 

He quite literally was not being racist, but the usage of the word is abhorrent either way now.  At the time it was still pretty abhorrent and I was surprised the instances were as recent as they were, but taken out of context as they were, they look much more sinister than they actually were.  I don't believe any intention of his has ever had any racist undertone.

There's nothing abhorrent about using the word in the context of repeating what somebody said, especially if what they said was awful.

Room for different approaches? Absolutely. I still wouldn't say it, but abhorrent? Not in my book.

If the facilities arms race across the country is going to halt or slow down in the face of NIL, then this isn't anything but a good thing, being the last/most recent to build the nicest and newest that will last in comparison to our competition for a long time.

I accidentally found myself "inside" the stadium for the 2012 Michigan game as I was trying to get around the stadium to go buy tickets from someone. It was during the construction for the east stadium expansion so it was kind of a mess, and somehow I find myself past security so I just went on in and partied in the student section.

First movie I can remember sneaking into was 8-Mile but I know my brother and I found a way into the back door of the movie theater when we were younger than that.

9 minutes ago, nic said:

Calling this an insurrection overuses and waters down the meaning of the word. 

Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.

"Whataboutism in action folks"

"Wow you guys can't handle me calling out your whataboutism sad"

"Wow why are you so upset you have to change the subject?"

"OH YEAH WELL YOU POST THE LINCOLN PROJECT TWEETS!!!"

1 hour ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

 

 

 

44 minutes ago, ZRod said:

This lady sounds dumb 

This is expert level satire.

24 minutes ago, Archy1221 said:

Good thing your not a judge in our judicial system 

You're right about that.

Although if I was a judge I would work in the job based off of law, not based off of being a person so that wouldn't really apply, but if you mean I'd be bad at the job then absolutely.

Dumb move on CNN's part, but if I had to choose a side I'd lean on the side of calling things that aren't insurrections insurrections, than lean on the side of NOT calling things that ARE insurrections what they actually are.

32 minutes ago, NebraskaHarry said:

What's a normie?

Part of the robotic nature was to make it easier on the visuals.

10 hours ago, nic said:

Once again I find myself agreeing with Bill Maher. This is starting to worry me, but common ground is good. Zucker should have been fired for bad ratings. He drove CNN into the ground.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-cancel-culture-whoopi-goldberg-jeff-zucker-scandals

 

“Whoopi Goldberg, who, by the way, I hope is still a friend -- we can disagree with each other -- should not be canceled or put off her show, as much as I totally disagree with her crazy statement -- free speech! She should be there! She shouldn't get a timeout!" Maher exclaimed.

 

“Jeff Zucker, powerful guy, head of CNN resigned, because he's 56 and not married … was having a relationship with a 49-year-old. I think that's age-appropriate, so we got that check for him -- also executive at the company, and he had to resign over that?" Maher asked. "I don't understand this, why a 56-year-old and a 49-year-old people can't have a consensual relationship. I mean, they had been friends for 20 years!" 

Maher continues to lean into "old man angry at cloud" territory with every new headline.

First, his Whoopi Goldberg quote includes what is, at this point, one of the most blatantly lazy misunderstandings or mis-attributed uses of 'free speech' by anyone over the age of 15. Fine to think she shouldn't be suspended from her show, but that has zero to do with free speech.

Second, in relation to Zucker... well, first of all, who said he had to resign? Two anonymous people have claimed he'd be fired if he didn't, and even if that's true, the main point Maher is missing is that the problem isn't their relationship, the problem is he didn't report it to HR. That is required at CNN, as it is required at every company. 

8 minutes ago, Jason Sitoke said:

I’m really not sure how one can claim lockdowns have been ineffective. They may not be worth it in some respects, but New Zealand and Australia are pretty compelling evidence. 

I mean you can make the case they weren't effective in the States.

But that really just means we aren't effective as people

9 hours ago, Mavric said:

Not Memorial Stadium .... yet.  But an interesting step in that directions.

 

I'm legit disappointed that this has been a thing all day an no one has posted it yet.  Unless I missed it.  Then I'm still disappointed that a brand new poster didn't make a new thread just about it.

 

6 hours ago, whateveritis1224 said:

Maybe the Gymnasts would be a better roll model. But this was great to see.

The f#&% are you talking about 

3 hours ago, Hedley Lamarr said:

can you name me a quarterback in Nebraska history who led us to 0 winning seasons in 4 tries in our lifetimes? 

What does that have to do with being an actual quarterback who can throw the ball? 

I say we just play reverse hangman with the Herbie logo, except instead of letters its wins.

Every win we get an appendage of Herbie gets added back on, but at the start of the season he's an invisible ghost.