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Actually, I'd focus on your diet first. Most of your results are going to come from eating correctly, not from working out. At least initially. I'm not saying don't work out. What i am saying is that you can't out exercise over eating.

I don't really mean you need go all "healthy". You just need to eat the right amount of stuff, day in and day out.

If I were you, I'd start using an app like MyFitnessPal or something similar. Tell it you want to lose a pound a week. It will tell you how many calories to consume.

Do that, monitor your weight and adjust accordingly. Not losing weight after a few weeks? Move more or ratchet down a few hundred calories. Losing weight too quickly? Eat a bit more. Adjust.

As far as a workout routine, I favor simple routines involving barbells. A few movements, squat, deadlift, presses, etc. I don't think they own those at planet fitness.

Official results:

http://onlineraceresults.com/event/view_event.php?event_id=15054

Good post.

I'd agree that a lot of fans are pretty shortsighted in that they don't realize as fans, they're not really privy to all the inner workings and variables that play into a team.

I guess the older I've become, I've learned to enjoy Saturdays with friends and watch the team play. Less bickering about details I know nothing about. Enjoy it for what it is and let's not go off the deep end..

Did anyone else do the Trek this morning in Omaha? How did you do?

Just got home.

Didn't die.

By my time i beat last years time by about 20 seconds. Watch says 8:43. No official results yet.

 

How many HBers use supplements when they workout? I have used them for years and think they do help when it comes to recovery and growth of muscles. My wife and I got into an arguement about them and she said they are a waste of money and that I can accomplish the same things without them. What do you guys think? I think she doesn't know sh!t and just wants something to argue about.

 

Creatine - Helps your muscles retain more fluid, therefore making them appear larger and more swollen, also helping with blood flow which makes you able to lift a little more weight. Long-term does damage to your kidneys because it causes your body to produce more creatinine, which is toxic for your body. I believe they make a version that limits the production of creatinine.

 

This is completely incorrect.

http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/

Specifically about kidneys: http://examine.com/faq/does-creatine-cause-kidney-problems.html

Here's a new one I got today.

Kids who like to use the one platform in the gym I frequent, bring chalk and get it on EVERYTHING. Including a big pile right on the platform.

Jesus, guys, you don't need a pound of chalk per workout. Hell, you're 13 and trying to lift things that are too heavy. You don't need chalk. You need a coach. Now clean up all this chalk damn it.

 

Wonderlic

 

 

 

Ha ha! Did you read the responses to that Tweet? Looky:

 

Greg Gabriel ‏@greggabe 2h2 hours ago

@RapSheet - that's why the Wonderlic is useless! Wonderlic will tell u the test is valid when taken 1 time and 1 time only.

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@greggabe @RapSheet amen. Taking it more than once completely defeats the purpose of the test.

 

 

I think these two guys commenting would have single digit Wonderlic scores. I'm pretty sure that Gregory wasn't taking the same Wonderlic practice test over and over.

 

That's pretty damn funny.

 

 

Dymatize is a great protein. GNC is garbage IMO I'm one of those crazy Bastards that enjoys beef isolate in fruit punch flavor though

Dude that sounds gross.

Carnivore is the name of it. I have a liquid steak after every workout

 

A liquid fruit punch steak shake at that!

Gives me shivers!

I definitely agree that it makes a difference to carry that weight around 24/7, but it's hard on the joints regardless. And if you consider a person who is an avid lifter and lifts heavy for an hour to hour and a half 5 or 6 times a week, that's a considerable amount of stress on a person's joints.

Well yea, I don't think anyone advocates lifting really heavy all the time.

I mean, unless you're a recovery machine you'll probably burn out pretty quickly doing that. That and form usually degrades closer to your max and there is really no reason for form to break down that much during training.

Still, I'll never back down that there is some excuse for not lifting heavy at least some of the time. When I say heavy, I mean say 85-95% of your 5 rep max. Continually working at weight below that will not get you stronger, it will just get you really good at moving that weight. That is if you want to get stronger, which I think everyone should, you should be continually trying to get stronger. That means, eventually, trying to move something heavy.

Time is already trying to make you weak. If you don't get strong, you'll lose in the long run.

Dymatize is a great protein. GNC is garbage IMO I'm one of those crazy Bastards that enjoys beef isolate in fruit punch flavor though

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just looked into this five minute rest thing and that long of rest is only suggested if you are doing extremely heavy weight (your maximum) with only 1-3 reps. I guess I wouldn't know anything about that because even on my heavy days I do weight I can rep between 5-6 times.

If you can hit your reps with the amount of rest you are taking, then awesome. Keep doing that.

 

My point was that when training for strength, the most important thing is to get your reps. If you need to rest longer to do that, then do that. That's all.

 

 

True. And when training for physique, take as few breaks as possible and rep out sets until failure. Massive bloodflow to the muscles you're working, causing them to tear. And in addition, you're burning a lot of calories since your heart is pumping faster.

 

Yessir. That's how I do it anyway.

 

Is training for physique like body building? I don't claim knowledge but wasn't Chaddy into this? I remember him saying that he never went to failure and made it sound like a bad thing.

 

 

Pretty much. My reason for doing so is that lifting really heavy weight is bad for your joints, and I really don't have any need to be strong.

You might disagree 10-15 years from now.

 

Doesn't it make sense that getting stronger now would actually be good for your joints by strengthening the muscles that support them?

 

You can build the muscles around the joints and strengthen them, but for the most part, the cartilage and ligaments that support your joints and allow them to move freely can't get stronger. Excess weight will especially wear down the cartilage that pads your joints and eventually cause arthritis.

 

Sure, you can wear down cartilage, but I'm not sure that's a function of weight lifted. Certainly many repetitions of any weight will cause some cartilage degradation too, but so will life.

 

Very true, it's just accelerated by heavy weight. That's why you hear about obese people having bad knees. Peoples' joints aren't made to withstand that much weight.

 

True about obese people, but I don't think you can equivocate that with training with heavy (relatively, mind you) weights.

Obese people carry weight around with them 24x7.

Your body is loaded with barbells for maybe 5-10 minutes total in a whole workout. Even then, depending on the lift, it's not the whole body.

It's not the same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/user/BroScienceLife

This guy is hilarious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just looked into this five minute rest thing and that long of rest is only suggested if you are doing extremely heavy weight (your maximum) with only 1-3 reps. I guess I wouldn't know anything about that because even on my heavy days I do weight I can rep between 5-6 times.

If you can hit your reps with the amount of rest you are taking, then awesome. Keep doing that.

 

My point was that when training for strength, the most important thing is to get your reps. If you need to rest longer to do that, then do that. That's all.

 

 

True. And when training for physique, take as few breaks as possible and rep out sets until failure. Massive bloodflow to the muscles you're working, causing them to tear. And in addition, you're burning a lot of calories since your heart is pumping faster.

 

Yessir. That's how I do it anyway.

 

Is training for physique like body building? I don't claim knowledge but wasn't Chaddy into this? I remember him saying that he never went to failure and made it sound like a bad thing.

 

 

Pretty much. My reason for doing so is that lifting really heavy weight is bad for your joints, and I really don't have any need to be strong.

You might disagree 10-15 years from now.

 

Doesn't it make sense that getting stronger now would actually be good for your joints by strengthening the muscles that support them?

 

You can build the muscles around the joints and strengthen them, but for the most part, the cartilage and ligaments that support your joints and allow them to move freely can't get stronger. Excess weight will especially wear down the cartilage that pads your joints and eventually cause arthritis.

 

Sure, you can wear down cartilage, but I'm not sure that's a function of weight lifted. Certainly many repetitions of any weight will cause some cartilage degradation too, but so will life.

 

 

 

 

 

I just looked into this five minute rest thing and that long of rest is only suggested if you are doing extremely heavy weight (your maximum) with only 1-3 reps. I guess I wouldn't know anything about that because even on my heavy days I do weight I can rep between 5-6 times.

If you can hit your reps with the amount of rest you are taking, then awesome. Keep doing that.

 

My point was that when training for strength, the most important thing is to get your reps. If you need to rest longer to do that, then do that. That's all.

 

 

True. And when training for physique, take as few breaks as possible and rep out sets until failure. Massive bloodflow to the muscles you're working, causing them to tear. And in addition, you're burning a lot of calories since your heart is pumping faster.

 

Yessir. That's how I do it anyway.

 

Is training for physique like body building? I don't claim knowledge but wasn't Chaddy into this? I remember him saying that he never went to failure and made it sound like a bad thing.

 

 

Pretty much. My reason for doing so is that lifting really heavy weight is bad for your joints, and I really don't have any need to be strong.

You might disagree 10-15 years from now.

Doesn't it make sense that getting stronger now would actually be good for your joints by strengthening the muscles that support them?

 

Leaving orange for Big Red

By Mark Morical / The Bulletin / @MarkMorical

 

Beau Walker admits that he misses the mountains. But there was no way he was going to pass up this opportunity.

 

Walker, who spent seven seasons as a student assistant and graduate assistant for the Oregon State football program, has followed head coach Mike Riley to serve as a graduate assistant at Nebraska.

 

A former star quarterback at Bend High School, Walker, 25, has been in Lincoln, Nebraska, for about a month and a half now.

 

“It is (flat), but it’s not bad,” Walker says of Nebraska. “It’s actually really nice. Definitely you miss your family and stuff, but at the same time, it’s my opportunity to spread the wings a little bit, and I’m excited to do so.”

 

 

"It's actually really nice."

 

The Nebraska Tourism Board is missing out if they don't adopt that as our new state motto. Nebraska, "Nice" is OK, but adding "actually really" nails it.

 

Ha!

Nebraska: Actually Really Nice ™

How many clicks did this get with people thinking Beau Walker was our new secondary coach, and "orange" meant Syracuse?

Probably more than one.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/west-virginia-oil-train-derailment-sparks-massive-fire-article-1.2117374

 

Pick your poison - pipeline burst or train derailment

Might as well not drive anywhere either. There's a decent chance you'll die.

Hell, better not even get out of bed. The boogie man might get you.

 

 

 

 

I guess I could post my annoyances. To each their own, but if we're into judging people...

 

• The guy who wears tanks that are way to big so you can see the meat display. /oswalt
• People who mean mug and aren't generally courteous.
• Bench bro's. All bench. All the time.
• Guy's who bench with their ass a foot in the air.
• Half and quarter squat guy. I guess generally, half rep guy.

 

That is considered a legal lift in the powerlifting community. It is almost like they are doing decline bench when they do that.

 

In most federations, no, it's not legal. Here's the rules for for IPF (page 17) as USAPL (page 30).

 

Now there are about a billion "federations" out their with their own rules, so whatever. But generally ass in the air is a no no in most every legit federation and also can unnecessarily increase risk for injury.

 

Here is an article about it. http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/fake_strength_stop_arching_the_bench_press

 

I don't agree with it but it is how a lot of powerlifters do their bench.

 

I am not a believer in raising your ass in the air to bench heavier. To me, it is cheating and is a fake bench. A friend of mine that powerlifts arches his back enough to raise his ass off the bench and that is how he goes about it. He said it shortens the route of the bar and makes it easier to lift heavier. Like I mentioned earlier, it is almost extreme enough that it looks like they are doing decline bench instead of FLAT bench.

 

Yea, it's ridiculous and dumb. Looks like we're on the same page.

IMO, you should bench with a "chest up" position, but keep your ass on the bench.

besides being a great player does he have any coaching or recruiting experience at the the college level? Great players don't always make great coaches.

 

This. A thousand times this.

 

 

I like the guy who comes over to offer advice...

 

ha! Unsolicited advice guy is awesome. I hear some real doozies from these guys sometimes.

I guess I'm that guy but only if I see bad form where they might injure themselves. Maybe it's my approach but almost everyone appreciates the advise and asks questions. The guy doing the half or quarter squats with way too much weight? I leave him alone if he isn't hurting himself. I see a lot of curious stuff but at least they are in the gym doing something.

 

 

I guess I could post my annoyances. To each their own, but if we're into judging people...

 

• The guy who wears tanks that are way to big so you can see the meat display. /oswalt
• People who mean mug and aren't generally courteous.
• Bench bro's. All bench. All the time.
• Guy's who bench with their ass a foot in the air.
• Half and quarter squat guy. I guess generally, half rep guy.

 

That is considered a legal lift in the powerlifting community. It is almost like they are doing decline bench when they do that.

 

In most federations, no, it's not legal. Here's the rules for for IPF (page 17) as USAPL (page 30).

Now there are about a billion "federations" out their with their own rules, so whatever. But generally ass in the air is a no no in most every legit federation and also can unnecessarily increase risk for injury.

I like the guy who comes over to offer advice...

ha! Unsolicited advice guy is awesome. I hear some real doozies from these guys sometimes.

I guess I could post my annoyances. To each their own, but if we're into judging people...

• The guy who wears tanks that are way to big so you can see the meat display. /oswalt
• People who mean mug and aren't generally courteous.
• Bench bro's. All bench. All the time.
• Guy's who bench with their ass a foot in the air.
• Half and quarter squat guy. I guess generally, half rep guy.

I don't know what people's opinions on GNC are here, but from around the web most people aren't to fond of them. I've looked at some of their house powders and you can get just as good if not better profiles for much cheaper online (including shipping). I got a deal on Scivation chocolate whey, and that stuff is really good. It's very sweet when mixed with water and blends really well. Cost me about 50 bucks with shipping for a 5 pound tub, it retails at about 80-90.

 

This. Buy your stuff online. I don't see a reason to go into a GNC or similar store these days.

Ah, I gotcha. I'd stick with the examine.com recommendations. Those articles are pretty good for explaining the mechanisms behind creatine but I would stick to examine for dosage.

Do you eat a lot of meat? I ask because if you do, you probably need to supplement with less creatine as you get it from animal meat and, maybe dairy.I would need to check on it.

If you didn't eat a lot of meat, it would be more important as you wouldn't be getting much from your diet.