bhamHusker

Just in the interest of accuracy (I certainly don't want to be in the position of defending Eichorst the Total Pu&&y™), Golden was hired in December of 2010, Eichorst was hired the following spring.

If you have access to WatchESPN / ESPN3, you can watch it online.

Callahan actually had a pretty nice house. He ended up losing a couple hundred thousand when he sold it. It sat on the market for something like 2 years after he left Lincoln since 2008 wasn't a good time to try to unload a $1.6M house.

Jennings

Why did you feel obligated to say this? Are you one of those evangelistic atheists who has to work your beliefs into every interaction? I can't wait until you come to my door to pass out your tracts... ...you have become what you say you dislike... You're assuming a heck of a lot from a post. I'm not out to convert anyone. I'm more likely to come to your door to tell you to stop misusing ellipses.

You'd have to ask one. I don't keep up with all of their weird rules.

Honestly, this is the thing that actually surprises me most about the move. I would have thought he'd be more interested in working somewhere that he had the opportunity to evangelize rather than preaching to the choir. As for Falwell, I had the great displeasure of meeting the guy on a couple of occasions in the early 80s. That guy has always been a major scumbag. He was a frequent visitor to the church with which my high school was affiliated (coincidentally, a good friend and former teammate (at Brown) of Ron Brown was the head pastor there until earlier this year).

Poor guy. Imagine being judged on the reputation for jackassery you've created for yourself.

If you wanted to have a circle jerk of opinion, you should have said so. This is a discussion board. If not to invite discussion, what exactly was the point of the post? Ronnie ceased to exist 11 years ago (actually, many years earlier due to his condition, something I would not wish upon even the most foul of beings, Reagan included), so he's not exactly reading the messages. It's reasonable to expect that people might chime in with an opinion or two that doesn't jibe with the exalted status in which some of you hold him. As an aside, I'm a bit disappointed that it's taken me over 8 years to accumulate 600 posts here, and *this* is #600.

There you go again. Stalin hahah. Yeah, you've got me all figured out. You know there is a spectrum of other options - non authoritarian options, right? Don't let me get in the way of your assumptions, though.

Hey, you don't have to insult me and call me a a Democrat just because I think the guy was human garbage! I'm a lefty for sure, but I make the most wild eyed Democrat look conservative by comparison. There's exactly zero American presidents on any pedestals around here, I assure you. In tight races where every vote might make a difference, I vote for the least awful option. Otherwise, I'm the guy that usually laments that the greens, socialists, etc. are too conventional and conservative. It's not party politics to wish that they guy had never lived; it's believing that the world would be a better place if we'd all been spared the machinations of him and his ilk, regardless of their virtually meaningless party affiliation.

We'd all be better off if he had been stillborn.

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/115231/nebraskas-mike-riley-shows-right-stuff-in-recruiting-haul

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12278467

Could you provide some examples of people that have been suspended or banned for nothing more than offering an unpopular opinion?You think it's that simple? It seems pretty simple. OP is wondering whether he can post opinions without running afoul of ban-happy mods. Dagerow says no. I'm just asking for some examples to support that claim. There's been plenty jackasses that have been banned from this forum, but as I said on the first page, those bans have been due to those users' dicketry, not their opinions.

Could you provide some examples of people that have been suspended or banned for nothing more than offering an unpopular opinion?

Serious answer: voicing opinions doesn't get anyone suspended or banned. Excessive dicketry does.

If you want to see it, NFL Network will be replaying it at 02:30 CST Monday morning. Ameer was the only Husker, as far as I know.

I'm sure they technically could leave, but I can't imagine an athlete walking out on his coach if he ever expects to see the field. Here's my ultimate issue with Ron Brown: his overt preaching on Christianity is much more likely to turn off prospective recruits and even current players than an equally talented coach who doesn't sermonize and keeps his faith to himself. The potential negatives greatly outweigh the potential positives, especially given the cultural attitudes among youth today. Knapp posted a couple years ago in another discussion about Brown's embarrassing bigotry and fanaticism that he'd talked to a former player who told him that everyone knew they had better play along if they didn't want any problems. Maybe knapp can share that again with the details that I'm forgetting here if he feels like it. Just listen to the interview. That is heavily implied by Brown during the segment. He was asked about non-religious players, the way he answered the question to the effect of "if a guy thinks like that he keeps it to himself" and the way he said it implied "They better keep it to themselves or else" And I am 100% certain that mentality would not fly with Riley. With the theory he was a great recruiter might hold water for some players, I would put money down there are players we lost because there was no way they could deal with him. Imagine if a player had a gay sibling, and saw the video of him at the Omaha City Council hearing. Yes, I listened to it yesterday, and I know what he said. I was just throwing another piece of anecdotal evidence into the pile. I'll summarize my feelings on Ron Brown. He is unworthy of admiration. He's an awful human and is *at best* an average to slightly above average position coach and a sub-par recruiter. If it wasn't for his long-standing ties with the program and the adoration of the holy rollers, people would have been calling for him to be jettisoned along with the rest of the former regime's staff that was cut loose. I wouldn't want either of my daughters to play for a coach like him.

Sorry about that, Guy. I edited within a minute of posting because I thought it needed a little more detail. I must have managed to sneak it in after you loaded the page haha. Regarding your edit, unless I'm mistaken, I'm sure I remember being able to delete self-posts in the past. Apparently we can't any longer.

And I've never seen someone so oblivious to sarcasm. It's a satirical riff on the tried and true "they chose to be this way" and "love the sinner / hate the sin" themes.

Probably because you don't understand the concept as Ron Brown sees it, or for that matter, myself. There are what people are, and there is what people do. Ron Brown is black...he was born that way, he wakes up that way every day. Homosexual people are categorized by what they do. They wake up and do something that is homosexual like in nature...it's a choice. Much like Ron Brown and other fundamentalist kooks choose to become religious bigots, right? I don't approve of the lifestyle choices that Brown and people like him have made, but in this age of tolerance it's their right to engage in that sort of abhorrent behavior if they wish (sadly). I mean I still love and respect them as my fellow humans even while I hate the decisions that they've made to be disgusting, hateful people that reject reality and decency in favor of myths and superstition. I just don't understand why these people feel the need to try to shove their choices down everyone's throats. We get it - they love Josh the Zombie Jew, but they need to keep it in the closet, OK (in the Matt 6:5 sense, not in the icky gay closet)? I don't want to see that. It turns my stomach - can't they just be happy that I tolerate their existence? These people living in a fantasy world need to get a grip and start living right. A steaming mound of horse crap has more value than the god(s) these people believe in - at least the dung is real and could be used as fertilizer. It's just a shame that the Romans didn't have enough lions to get the job done nearly 2000 years ago. (Sorry, not sorry - we don't have a right to not be offended, right?) When you wake up each day and do something heterosexual in nature, do you ever think about the moment that you chose to be straight? Were you staring down the barrel, so to speak, and decided it wasn't for you? Did you try it to make sure you were making the right decision?

I'm sure they technically could leave, but I can't imagine an athlete walking out on his coach if he ever expects to see the field. Here's my ultimate issue with Ron Brown: his overt preaching on Christianity is much more likely to turn off prospective recruits and even current players than an equally talented coach who doesn't sermonize and keeps his faith to himself. The potential negatives greatly outweigh the potential positives, especially given the cultural attitudes among youth today. Knapp posted a couple years ago in another discussion about Brown's embarrassing bigotry and fanaticism that he'd talked to a former player who told him that everyone knew they had better play along if they didn't want any problems. Maybe knapp can share that again with the details that I'm forgetting here if he feels like it.

You have "Freedom of Religion" confused with "Freedom from Religion" One exists in the Constitution, the other one comes from the Political Correctness of which Brown speaks. This is exactly what I was getting at earlier. We also have a guaranteed right to Free Speech but we do NOT have the right to not be offended by someone else's Free Speech. He has every right to believe what he wants and to conduct himself in a manner consistent with those beliefs - to a point. In his capacity as an employee of the state coaching / teaching students, he does not have the right to attempt to impose religious indoctrination upon those he's charged with teaching. The courts have affirmed this numerous times and it's not a matter that's open for debate. He has a right as a private citizen (not in his capacity as an instructor) to do that as much as he wants on the street corner, in his church or knocking door to door and bothering decent people at home, but when he goes to work each day to teach men to play a game, he needs to check that sh#t at the door.

Who employed him? Was he not in a position of authority in his capacity as a coach? It's inappropriate for a person to use their position of authority to evangelize. It's not OK from a lowly bus driver for an elementary school, much less a teacher / coach. I dare say that Ron Brown could have counseled the young men in his charge in a secular manner and you would have no problems with that but once he includes his faith, that's when the outrage begins. Take a minute and think - really think - about what you just said. He was employed by a secular institution that is a part of a secular state to instruct student athletes. Explain why I would have an issue with a person in that position instructing in a "secular manner?" For some people, you cannot remove faith from their discourse, because their faith is at the very foundation of their being, and it informs everything they think, say and do. This tends to bother a lot of people, though. And the people you describe don't belong in those positions. I don't agree with that. I think you can be a person of God and people can know that you live your life by those guidelines and still do your job. When you start to let it affect the job you are doing or if you are keeping people from doing their job, then it becomes a problem. If they're unable to compartmentalize, no. If they can't stop themselves from using their position to evangelize, they have no business in the position.