Landlord

52 minutes ago, BlitzFirst said:

Obviously, people disagreed with my definition of a bad cop or they wouldn't have argued.  It was these folks and their definitions I was referring to.

Are you sure that 'they' disagreed with your definition? Or maybe they disagreed with your guess at the rareness or percentages of good/bad cops.

5 hours ago, BlitzFirst said:

For you folks, it's cops perpetrating violence = bad cop.

 

For my 40% figure...I define bad cop = Your definition above  + any cop who sees criminal/bad behavior from other cops and doesn't report it aka enables further criminal/bad behavior.

what folks are you talking aboout?

14 hours ago, Landlord said:

We've seen at least 500 instances in the last month of police escalating and  causing violence, at a time when you'd imagine they'd be coached into being on their BEST behavior. We've also probably seen the same amount of police  departments and officers on social media and in press conferences crying out that they're being oppressed.

 

Again, this is only the  stuff we've seen.How much more has happened when there wasn't video? How about when they're not under a microscope? 

14 hours ago, Moiraine said:

Agreed. I think 95% is probably high given these are only the ones caught on camera and you have to include police who either don't report anything or lie about it.

13 hours ago, Moiraine said:

I feel like it should be made a lot easier to do the right thing. I.e. not get fired for "betraying" other police officers. I think it's easy to say you'd step in but everyone has to reach a certain line before they're willing to lose their job over something.

The majority of cops I know, and I imagine the majority of cops in general, are relatively normal people with a remarkably difficult job. 

There's many aspects of the difficulty of that job. There's PTSD possibilities, seeing some really absolutely awful s#!t over and over and over again. There's the intoxicating temptation of power and abusing that power, which all human beings are susceptible to (Stanford Prison Experiment). There's also wanting to do what's right, but having to provide for yourself and your family and also be a team player and belong to your tribe can make doing what's 'right' very difficult when confronted with your peers doing what's wrong. 

There's also the reality that systems take on their own personas independent of the people who comprise them. 

That's why more police should be in favor of 'defunding' the police imo. The point of that is that our society asks police to do too much that they aren't equipped for. Train them better, train them better for less and more specialized roles, and after you've trained them better for more specialized roles provide them more support for the struggles and horrors that come with the job. 

And also build more safeguards against abuse and corruption and accountability into the SYSTEM so that less individuals have to carry the burden of being rats/snitches/outcast/threatened for standing up against impropriety.

1 hour ago, JJ Husker said:

Thank you. Sorry I was a little testy there.....but it can be frustrating.

Don't apologize for being pissed off that this board is littered with trash and doesn't work well.

Around 800,000 full-time employed law enforcement officers in the United States, but I believe included in that number is federal agents, prison guards, homicide detectives, etc. So the number of 'police' on the streets in the way we're talkling about is  smaller.

We've seen at least 500 instances in the last month of police escalating and  causing violence, at a time when you'd imagine they'd be coached into being on their BEST behavior. We've also probably seen the same amount of police  departments and officers on social media and in press conferences crying out that they're being oppressed.

Again, this is only the  stuff we've seen.How much more has happened when there wasn't video? How about when they're not under a microscope? 

There's zero percent chance that 99.9%  of police are good. There's not even a chance that 99% are. Maybe 95%? Even then, 5% with the abillity to cause this kinda carnage is pretty damn frightening. 

3 hours ago, teachercd said:

No

 

There is a salary ladder...Your first year, every teacher makes the same, second year the same, third year, the same.  Then the amount of you education you have will up your salary.  So a teacher with 5 years in and a Masters will make more than a teacher with just 5 years in.

 

But new teachers (in their first year) are at the bottom of the ladder.  NOW...you might mean new teachers to the district BUT with a lot of experience, in which case, they might be new to you...but have 15 years experience and make more than a teacher who has been at your school for 9 years. 

Nah our new science teacher who was under the age of 30 was making way more than the 65+ year old hag who'd been there decades.

6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I meant the politicians and those in power 

I see, so you want the 'blacks' to realize the left politicians don't do anything for them. To what end? Because the right politicians do? 

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

On a side note, when will Blacks learn the left doesn’t do S&#T for them? 

The 'left' is in the streets every day for the last two weeks protesting, talking to their public officials, spreading ideas for reform, forcing public pressure which is leading to resignations and arrests, literally being human shields for black people caught in front of militarized police. 

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Freedom of Speech is dead.

How is free speech dead when there's a very popular 'news' channel peddling conspiracy theories like black lives matter being a terrorist organization, and getting away with it with no punishment or censorship whatsoever?

20 hours ago, Gorillahawk said:

 

Imagine what would have happened in those years if we had anyone other Zac Lee running the offense. If Pelini would of had his last couple years offenses with those defenses, the sky would have been the limit!

On paper you'd think so, but Beck didn't have the skill to be able to keep that production up when it mattered the most. We'd have the horses, but his scheming and rhythm as a playcaller would definitely prevent us from reaching that sky.

Also, we had the most electric offense in the country in 2010 until Taylor got hurt.

4 hours ago, B.B. Hemingway said:

A lot of convenient cherry picking going on in here. I had to wait over 2 hours at our most recent local voting polls. There were a couple black folks waiting in line as well, so I guess that must of been why. I should of asked them while we were in line if they thought shorter voting lines would prevent some of the culturally-driven bad decisions made by those living in the inner cities.... The larger point I'm trying to make is: There is a lot of finger pointing coming from the black community, as to why they have so many issues within their communities. They (and most of you) blame white people.... I (and some prominent black people) believe that a lot of inner city communities need to get their own houses in order (literally is some cases) before pointing blame at others, who in most cases, have zero impact on their lives. Even if the modern oppression of black people wasn't a fallacy, it still doesn't make you: 1) Father children, and not take care of them. 2) Join gangs, and partake in illegal activity that you KNOW will land you in legal trouble. 3) Shoot/Kill your fellow minorities at an astronomically higher rate than whites (or cops) are killing minorities. But, I've been down this road with most of you before, so..... Back to the Football forums I go.

This is the dumbest s#!t I've read in at least the last week (except some content from Notre Dame Joe).

7 hours ago, Moiraine said:

for some reason I thought you grew up in a really rural town. Apparently my Huskerboarder trivia game is really bad.

I went to middle/high school in Rising City, population ~450 

12 kids in my graduating class

I mean to be fair I grew up in Columbus and the mascot is the Discoverers, so I don't think it behooved the culture to shoot straight about Columbus' deeds lol

I've got dozens of friends ini the CHAZ and all report it as peaceful, communal, and awesome with everyone being provided for and a fun block party atmosphere.

I  mean we've seen the video of the cops lounging/hanging out  during the most violent looting in Chicago.

We saw an entire precinct of cops leave their building in Minneapolis to let rioters burn it down. I've seen multiple tweets  and articles from MLPS business owners saying they watched people looting stores for hours and they called 911 only to be told it's already being taken care of or there's nothing they can do.

1 hour ago, ZRod said:

Is there any actual evidence that they "let it happen" other than videos of mass looting?

Do you see any  videos of any police doing anything or even present in the videos of all the looting and property destruction?

They're nowhere to be found. I've seen at least 3 videos of people running out of stores with product in hand and  police just standing there, maybe fainting a step towards one person or halfheartedly shoving another.

What a mess, but a much needed one.

Keep in mind that a lot of these cities let the looting at the beginning happen. They didn't even try to stop it, and then they brought in the militarized police on the protestors, not the looters.

1 hour ago, BlitzFirst said:

If I want to go downtown, it's 15 min drive.  If i want to go to the beach, it's a 15 min drive.  If I want to go to Towncenter shopping mall, it's a 10-15 min drive depending on traffic.  If I want to go to westside or Orange Park, it's a 15-20 min drive depending on traffic.

This sounds amazing wow

5 hours ago, MasterPulverizer said:

It's an equally bad look for our fan base to be making comments without knowing what's going on in the background.

Is it really a bad look if every single fanbase does it?

Things I never learned about in school:

• Tulsa Massacre

• Jim Crow

• Redlining

• The U.S. shipping Jews back to axis-europe

• Churchill's pretty disgusting racism

• Christopher Columbus slaughtering indigenous people

• The G.I. Bill, Homesteaders Act, etc.

But my 3rd grade teacher did talk about attending a "fascinating" Ku Klux Klan rally in NC in the 90's

7 hours ago, Toe said:

Since when are EA Sports games only on PlayStation?

since the first teenager figured out how to illegally download photoshop

36 minutes ago, Notre Dame Joe said:

Criminals do often have armor and weapons superior to the normal police handgun.

Which criminals and how often?

Also, not sure if this falls under qualified immunity or not, but people need to be given a much easier and fair system of engaging officers or the city in civil suits, and protesting unjust tickets/fines/etc. 

The system is designed so effectively to make it impossible for a citizen to get justice against the state, because every level can blame other levels and dissipate the energy of an accusation.

Also, prison reform and abolish for profit prisons. We way past time fam.

None of the actual progress being made will result in much of anything if we can't reform qualified immunity and strip the unions of some of their power. Those have got to be the two primary prongs of attack imo. Then, training/management reform (make it harder to be a cop, but give cops more support for managing PTSD/stress/conflict resolution/etc) and a rethinking of what officials need to be inserted into what scenarios.

11 minutes ago, Moiraine said:

 

 

Honestly I'm starting to want these protests to go on until we have 7 straight days without a cop doing f#&%ed up s#!t like this. I want every one of them (doing the f#&%ed up s#!t) found, fired, and prosecuted. I'm starting to feel guilty about not protesting.

 

On 2nd viewing it hit the pavement first so he's actually using it as intended, but it goes to show they shouldn't be using this s#!t at all. And most of these rallies shouldn't have police.

Maybe i'm looking at it wrong - is the first flash to the right the same object that goes to the left and then explodes in the person's face? I thought they were separate and the explosion was from a gun directly in front of his face. Either way...holy s#!t.